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Title: Most Harvey flood victims uninsured, face big bills alone
Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/APFN_US_HARVEY_FLOOD_
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2017-08-29-05-11-10
Published: Aug 29, 2017
Author: BERNARD CONDON and KEN SWEET
Post Date: 2017-08-29 10:41:38 by XDMAR
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NEW YORK (AP) -- Homeowners suffering flood damage from Harvey are more likely to be on the hook for losses than victims of prior storms - a potentially crushing blow to personal finances and neighborhoods along the Gulf Coast.

Insurance experts say only a small fraction of homeowners in Harvey's path of destruction have flood insurance. That means families with flooded basements, soaked furniture and water-damaged walls will have to dig deep into their pockets or take on more debt to fix up their homes. Some may be forced to sell, if they can, and leave their communities.

"All these people taken out in boats, they have a second problem: They have no insurance," said Robert Hunter, director of insurance at the Consumer Federation of America.

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Most Harvey flood victims uninsured, face big bills alone

...until Congress provides relief.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-08-29   10:43:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Most Harvey flood victims uninsured, face big bills alone ...until Congress provides relief.

I think the disaster declaration by POTUS allows uninsured flood damage to be claimed through FEMA.

Certainly for those who were outside the declared flood plain.

In Texas I know where I live if you live near lake front property you have to have flood insurance. Most banks demand such when lending for a mortgage.

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I think the disaster declaration by POTUS allows uninsured flood damage to be claimed through FEMA.

Certainly for those who were outside the declared flood plain.

Exactly. That's how we handle disasters in the USA, for reasonably good economic and political reasons. Insurance is great for individual disaster, but mass casualty disaster through act of God (aging is included in this) overwhelms all insurers profitability at any rate that the bulk of people could pay. And if you decide you're just going to let the uninsured go homeless and lose everything on a "fuck 'em" theory, you only end up fucking yourself, because having been rendered destitute, they then all end up on welfare, Section 8, Medicaid, food stamps - the lot of it - and that is much, much more expensive than one-time disaster relief payments that restore property and keep the individuals employed, earning and paying taxes. If the disaster relief costs $100,000 per family, but the family keeps working at the median $57,000 per year, and keeps paying taxes at the median $15.000 per year, and keeps providing employment for goods and services to others, that relief aid is paid back in direct taxes within 7 years, and all of the other people in the economy from whom that family earns its living continue earning as well. But if you take the "Fuck 'em" approach of the sort of conservatives whose heads are screwed on with bolts, then you end up spending $36,000 per year for an average of 3-5 years to keep them alive on welfare, you get no tax offset, you don't get their economic activity, you get kids whose lives are far more disrupted who then grow up to be undereducated criminals, and you inflict upon yourself, in train, decades of expenses for incarceration and a new generation of welfare. So, you can bite the bullet and provide mercy and get paid back. Or you can be a merciless asshole and end up spending 7 times as much over time. Either way you pay, and if you do it the merciful way the people are back on their feet and out of your hair quickly, and they don't become welfare and crime cases that plague you for a lifetime. This is why we have representative government and not direct democracy. Because direct democracy of struggling people will go for "Fuck 'em", and make everybody's lives worse forever. Representative democracy elects more educated people who understand what opportunity cost is, and factor that in when making decisions. That is why we always help the disaster afflicted, because it is seven times less expensive over time to do it.

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