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Title: something earthshaking will occur during the eclipse.
Source: Me
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 20, 2017
Author: Barry Miyet
Post Date: 2017-08-20 02:16:23 by interpreter
Keywords: None
Views: 12772
Comments: 73

I have a premonition that something earth-shaking will come to pass during tomorrow's eclipse. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

It could be along the lines of a child will be born to a couple in Tulsa who are there to pay their taxes. (A bright Venus/Star in the East will appear over the Tulsa area around high noon very much like Venus appeared over Bethlahem when Jesus was born.

Or it could be more like MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) if demon-possessed Mr. Un decides to attack us tommorow.

Any thoughts anyone?

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#1. To: interpreter (#0)

Any thoughts anyone?

My thoughts are that you are a loon with made-up superpowers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-20   2:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: interpreter (#0)

more like MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) if demon-possessed Mr. Un decides to attack us tommorow.

Your psychic powers are a huge threat to Dear Leader, you'll be the prime target.

#1


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-08-20   3:10:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: interpreter (#0)

Any thoughts anyone?

You obviously suffer from lack of sleep

paraclete  posted on  2017-08-20   5:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Any thoughts anyone?

I have some thoughts. There are a lot of people in this country who have there head in rectal recluse. The whole world is in such a shape that anything could happen. The eclipse could just give more cover for it to happen.

I do not go to church every time the doors are opened, but I love Jesus Christ. I am only human and fail Him daily. I believe Jesus is the Son of God, was born of a virgin, was crucified on a cross, died for my sins and rose from the dead and that He loves us dearly, and is faithful to forgive us of our sins. But He says that if you deny me in front of your friends I will deny you in front of my Father. Can I get an Amen!

U don't know me  posted on  2017-08-20   9:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: U don't know me, A K A Stone (#4) (Edited)

So...anything might happen on any given day? Is that another prophecy, delivered with biblical authority? It sounds more like stating the obvious.

I think there's a rule here at LF: only one prophet per thread. I'll check with Stone.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-20   9:30:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#2)

That is actually a back-handed compliment. I wear the badge/label with pride, glad to be a threat to Satan and his followers.

But lets talk about who is a great threat to our nation, how about it. Actually, there are 2 or 3 things, but let's talk about Ron Paul who BTW hails from my neck of the woods, and we are close acqaintances. Back in 1980 We campaigned side by side for Ronald Reagan. Actually I campaigned for Reagan, and Paul campaigned mostly for himself, but he road in on the coattails of Ronald Reagan (a great president). Anyhow I often voted for Ron Paul in local politics (basically because he is for less government), but the idea of him being President scares the heck out of me. God didn't put us here to be isolationists, He put us here to rule the Earth, and that is the only reason He raised us up. If we were to ever shirk from that duty by electing an isolationist like Paul (and/or his son) we will very likely (and quickly) cease to exist and joined the big trash heap of history. You can count on it.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   9:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: interpreter, Vicomte13, redleghunter, BobCeleste (#6)

Anyhow I often voted for Ron Paul in local politics (basically because he is for less government), but the idea of him being President scares the heck out of me. God didn't put us here to be isolationists, He put us here to rule the Earth, and that is the only reason He raised us up.

I also liked Rand Paul and his dad, Ron.

The history depicted in the Bible is that of Jews located unfortunately at the crossroads of history, between great empires that rose and fell with some mass Jewish slavery involved and various migrations to the cities of the Greek empire and the later Roman empire and ending in 70AD with the destruction of Jerusalem and the beginning of the Diaspora and the rabbinic era in other great cities of the Roman empire and the eastern empires where Jews existed in large numbers.

I don't see how you derive in any serious doctrinal fashion the idea that Christians are to rule the earth. Scripture tells Christians to evangelize the world and prophecy tells us that end times will come when the Gospel is preached to everyone in every tongue and that there will be a great falling away from the true faith in false churches and that they will persecute the Remnant until the Rapture and that the Millennium of Christ will then exist for a thousand years in which a resurrected Christ will rule the earth from the New Jerusalem.

At least, that is pretty standard modern Millenial apocalyptic doctrine over recent decades.

You instead seem to imagine that Christians will rule this secular world. Scripture indicates this at no point, pointing only to the rule of Christ as King for a Millennium. In which case we would pass, over the course of 7 years (if we survived physically) from being citizens of a democratic republic to being the subjects of the Monarchy of Christ ruling from a seat of power in the New Jerusalem. Jesus would be our God Emperor for a thousand years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-20   10:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#7) (Edited)

It is no imagination. As all history books say, Christian nations have been ruling the earth ever since the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus returned (on October 27h, 312 AD). At least they all used to say that. Nowadays the libs are in control of our schools, and history has been completely rewritten in order to be "politically correct" and not offend any pagans (or atheists). If we are to continue ruling the world, we are going to hafta quit bending over backwards to be "politically" correct, and start telling it like it is, and the way God wills it to be.

And it is utterly ridiculous to think that all of the Revelation will unfold in 7 short years. It has now been unfolding for over 1700 years (since the return of Christ in 312 AD). It is called the Historicist View of the Revelation, and it used to be the predominant view before the ridiculous Futurist View was invented around the mid-19th century.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   15:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: interpreter (#8) (Edited)

No history books say that kook false prophet.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-08-20   15:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

No history books say that

If you are talking about the history textbooks in use today, then that is a correct statement. I'm talking about the World History textbooks that were in use when I went to school in the 60's.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   15:44:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: interpreter (#0)

I have a premonition that something earth-shaking will come to pass during tomorrow's eclipse.

Dyslexic left wing loons will call it a sign from Dog to rise up and riot.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-20   18:03:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nolu chan (#11)

Dyslexic left wing loons will call it a sign from Dog to rise up and riot.

Will there be looting?

Profit!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-20   22:04:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: interpreter, A K A Stone (#10)

[interpreter #8] As all history books say, Christian nations have been ruling the earth ever since the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus returned (on October 27h, 312 AD).

[A K A Stone #9] No history books say that kook false prophet.

[interpreter #10] If you are talking about the history textbooks in use today, then that is a correct statement. I'm talking about the World History textbooks that were in use when I went to school in the 60's.

I went to school in the 50's and 60's and never heard of of a 312 A.D. return.

To what history books do you refer?

Where I find mention of it on the internet, the sole author is Barry Midyet (interpreter) and no history book is ever identified.

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[interpreter, LF 2017-04-25 16:55:40 ET] "The history books tell us that the sign of Christ (a Chi-Rho, the first two letters of Christ in Greek) appeared in the sky on Oct 27th, 312 AD...."

[interpreter, LF 2016-05-06 10:00:19 ET] "Every world history textbook in the world, or at least every one that I have read, says that Jesus returned in 312AD on Oct. 27th when the sign of Christ appeared in the sky and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine...."

[interpreter, Christian Forums, Oct 11, 2013] "The second coming of Jesus was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. That day is called the turning point in history because ever since that day, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth."

http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46099

Title: The 5th horseman
Source: Revelation 19
URL Source: http://the5horsemen.com
Published: May 6, 2016
Author: Me and John/Jesus
Post Date: 2016-05-06 08:28:45 by interpreter

[excerpt]

Many Christians think the 5th horseman is Jesus, but I disagree for many reasons, first of all because the history books say Jesus returned in 312 AD. But at the same time, it can also be argued that the five horsemen are five dispensations of the second coming.

Also, http://the5horsemen.com/

The Fifth Horseman by Barry Midyet (interpreter)

Barry Midyet

I write about the Revelation.

My objective is to prove there is a God (who knows the future).

The following is an excerpt from my book, The Revelation: A Historicist View:

The Four Horsemen (of Rev 6)

[excerpt from the excerpt from the book]

In Revelation 5, we are told that the Revelation can only be opened by the coming of Jesus, the Lamb of God. The history books tell us that the second coming was in AD 312, when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds, and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and said, "By this, conquer."

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Christian Forums

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293456

Albion #26, Oct 12, 2013

interpreter said:

St. Constantine was the first Christian conqueror, and he arrived on the world scene when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, marking the second coming. And he rode a white horse and conquered with a bow.

You said that already.

And I asked you where were all the other signs that the Bible teaches will occur at the time of the second coming.

You can't answer that because they did NOT occur. OK? And since they did not, Constantine's doings CANNOT be the second coming of Christ in any respect.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293489

interpreter #27, Oct 12, 2013

Albion said:

You said that already.

And I asked you where were all the other signs that the Bible teaches will occur at the time of the second coming.

You can't answer that because they did NOT occur. OK? And since they did not, Constantine's doings CANNOT be the second coming of Christ in any respect.

I have no doubt that the sign of the Son of Man was preceded by other signs in the sky such as a lunar eclipse and/or solar eclipse, and meteor showers.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293520

Albion #28, Oct 12, 2013

interpreter said:

I have no doubt that the sign of the Son of Man was preceded by other signs in the sky such as a lunar eclipse and/or solar eclipse, and meteor showers.

Then you are telling us about your own personal theory concerning something you think might have happened, not something that did.

And you have no evidence whatsoever of these various (not just one) phenomena that could not, would not, have been missed by anyone--stars falling from the sky, angels with trumpets, the Lord appearing in the heavens, the sun being darkened, etc.

What we are telling you in return is our "take" on the subject, which is that unless these things actually did happen--and if they did, they would certainly have been noticed even more easily than the color of Constantine's horse ^_^ --they didn't happen. And of course, there's always that little problem of there being no end of the age, judgment, etc.

About these things, we have "no doubt."

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nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   2:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#13)

Woh...that's some awesome cross-forum sleuthing between LF and ChristianForums.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   9:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nolu chan (#13) (Edited)

So you are trying to tell me that your history book did not say that Jesus appeared to Constantine when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds? And that it brought judgement day for the Roman Empire? And that Christian nations have been the dominant force on Earth ever since that day? At least that was in all Texas textbooks. I don't know where you went to school. probably China or somewhere.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-21   9:34:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nolu chan (#13) (Edited)

The second coming of Jesus was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. That day is called the turning point in history because ever since that day, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth."

I don't know what catholic revision of history you have been reading, but Constantine was obviously a brilliant manipulator and certainly not the returned Christ. He was probably a manifestation of the anti-christ

Christian nations have not been the dominant nations until recent history, the Muslims came very close to conquering Europe and Rome was defeated by the Barbarians and their own excesses. How do you explain the dark ages? a glorious church?

paraclete  posted on  2017-08-21   9:55:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tooconservative (#14)

Woh...that's some awesome cross-forum sleuthing between LF and ChristianForums.

Yes, yes it is. Even I am impressed with Mr Chan, who I consider to be a very good debator who at least does his homework before he (or she?) posts (unlike most posters on LF).

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-21   9:59:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: paraclete (#16) (Edited)

I don't know what catholic revision of history you have been reading, but Constantine was obviously a brilliant manipulator and certainly not the returned Christ. He was probably a manifestation of the anti-christ

Christian nations have not been the dominant nations until recent history, the Muslims came very close to conquering Europe and Rome was defeated by the Barbarians and their own excesses. How do you explain the dark ages? a glorious church?

Well, you directed that to Chan but I think it is really meant for me because he is quoting me. And no, I did not attend a Roman Catholic school. I attended public schools.

And I did not say Constantine was Jesus. I said Jesus appeared to Constantine when His sign appeared in the clouds, and told him "By this sign, conquer." And that's what Constantine promptly did, riding a white horse and carrying a bow. And he conquered all the known world for Jesus, so how can you say we did not rule the earth until recently??

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-21   10:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: interpreter (#0)

VxH  posted on  2017-08-21   12:40:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: interpreter (#15)

So you are trying to tell me that your history book did not say that Jesus appeared to Constantine when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds?

I am flat out saying that claimed visions in the sky were not in my history books, the return of Christ was not in my history books, and you have still not identified one, just one history book with such content.

If it was in all the Texas textbooks, identify a textbook, any textbook that it has been in.

In my 9 years of Catholic school, I never even heard of the 312 A.D. return of Christ being a controversy, much less an historical fact. It surely never arose in public school history class.

I did not go to school in China. Try New York.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   13:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: interpreter, paraclete (#18)

I did not say Constantine was Jesus. I said Jesus appeared to Constantine when His sign appeared in the clouds, and told him "By this sign, conquer." And that's what Constantine promptly did, riding a white horse and carrying a bow.

What you have actually said was:

  • The history books tell us that the second coming was in AD 312....

  • The history books tell us that the sign of Christ (a Chi-Rho, the first two letters of Christ in Greek) appeared in the sky on Oct 27th, 312 AD....

  • Every world history textbook in the world, or at least every one that I have read, says that Jesus returned in 312AD on Oct. 27th....

  • The second coming of Jesus was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds....

  • St. Constantine was the first Christian conqueror, and he arrived on the world scene when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, marking the second coming.

And in reply to a query by Albion on the Christian Forums, asking about other signs predicted in the Bible, you improvised,

  • I have no doubt that the sign of the Son of Man was preceded by other signs in the sky such as a lunar eclipse and/or solar eclipse, and meteor showers.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   13:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: interpreter, Tooconservative (#17)

Even I am impressed with Mr Chan, who I consider to be a very good debator who at least does his homework before he (or she?) posts (unlike most posters on LF).

It's Mr. Chan. My homework was doing due diligence looking for somebody, anybody, who had published the claim that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ occurred in 312 A.D., as an historical fact.

Your claims were the only sources I could find. There is no shortage of claims that Constantine allegedly alleged that he had seen a vision in the sky.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   13:58:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: interpreter, nolu chan, paraclete, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#18)

So what was your earthshaking prophetic event during the eclipse?

For myself, I noticed that the Wendy's crew still put out very hot fries when I picked up some at totality. But I wouldn't call it earthshaking because they do pretty well at serving hot fries over the lunch hour.

Be careful what you say 'cause I've got a big ol' bag o' rocks waiting right here.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   14:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nolu chan (#21)

St. Constantine was the first Christian conqueror, and he arrived on the world scene when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, marking the second coming.

It may have escaped your notice but the second coming hasn't happened yet nor has the 1000 year reign of Jesus, you should depend more on scripture and throw those errant "history" books away. No doubt the Catholic Church was raptured in 312 AD meaning that all that was left were sinners and unbelievers who Constantine led into this post coming paradise, and who did not covert until his death bed, to manipulate them

paraclete  posted on  2017-08-21   18:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: paraclete (#24)

It may have escaped your notice but the second coming hasn't happened yet nor has the 1000 year reign of Jesus, you should depend more on scripture and throw those errant "history" books away. N

It seems to have escaped your notice that I am NOT the one making the claim. That is interpreter. I am questioning the validity of the claim that it is in history books.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   20:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: interpreter (#0)

Any thoughts anyone?

Well, the eclipse came and went and nothing happened other than a few fools have damaged their visual acuity by looking into the eclipse without any eye protection. And you are caught naked on the board with more BS.

You should be ashamed of your ignorant behaviour. FUCK OFF AND DIE!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-08-21   21:58:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: interpreter (#0)

The day before this eclipse occurred I dreamt this:

I had this dream I was making sandwiches for a crew about to board on spaceship. I was also getting prepared to go with them. I see notes that relay there is to be a solar flare attack that will burn up the Earth and this is why I am boarding this ship. Well, I am in this ship looking outside this vast 3-D dimensional amount of universe space of darkness and mystery. I see that the bottom part of this ship as separated and I am worried. Perhaps I should suit up and try to go after this part of the ship but then when I look out the window I see it is floating near. So I communicate to the crew my concerns about this. We are looking for a new Earth for the old one is no longer my home. I cannot stand being couped up in this space machine. As I am peering out a window from this ship, I am in awe of this vast universe.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-21   22:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: goldilucky (#27)

At least your dream had a plot, about as much as most Hollyweird sci-fi anyway. And it was lot more specific than interpreter's "prophecy".

Thanks for sharing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   22:50:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Tooconservative (#28)

My dreams are not sci-fi. Mine are prophetic. I have had these visions since I was 9.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-21   23:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Tooconservative (#28)

At least your dream had a plot, about as much as most Hollyweird sci-fi anyway...

His dream had a plot. It was performed in the mid '40s radio science fiction theatre as "Universe".

rlk  posted on  2017-08-21   23:44:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: interpreter (#0)

Well nothing earth shattering happened.

Perhaps something interesting happened along the 25km long principality of Lichtenstein. Or did Merkel ride a beast into the heart of Berlin?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   0:08:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#7)

At least, that is pretty standard modern Millenial apocalyptic doctrine over recent decades.

Actually that was close to what Irenaeus and several of the very early church fathers believed with the exception of a pre trib rapture.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   0:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: nolu chan (#13)

Albion said:

Good dude. Wish he would come over here. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   0:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: nolu chan (#20)

In my 9 years of Catholic school, I never even heard of the 312 A.D. return of Christ being a controversy, much less an historical fact. It surely never arose in public school history class.

I did not go to school in China. Try New York.

Yeah I went to Catholic school. My knuckles can testify to the righteous judgement I received in Sister Mary Midgets class.

So no I too had not heard of the second coming of Christ in 312 A.D.

As a matter of fact the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (as amended in 381 AD) had:

"He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end."

Seems the church of that era was not convinced Jesus Christ came back in 312 AD.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   0:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: redleghunter (#33)

Good dude. Wish he would come over here. :-)

I have had no interaction with Albion at all. I came across the exchange while researching and found Albion directly, succinctly on point and more persuasive than the response he received.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-22   1:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: redleghunter (#31)

Well nothing earth shattering happened.

Well, Mr Un didn't nuke us, thank God.

But I am petty sure my first scenario came to pass, that a child was born during the eclipse. I am predicting, as many scientists are, that a child born in 2017 (possibly during the eclipse) will live to be 1000 years old, as the Revelation also indicates.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   1:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter (#34)

Yeah I went to Catholic school. My knuckles can testify to the righteous judgement I received in Sister Mary Midgets class.

My funniest 9th grade recollection is of a big dude called Brother De Sales who broke a few 18-inch rulers over the course of a year. A student at the front right of the class, near a door, did something which caused Brother De Sales to grab his ruler and head his way. The student dashed out the door, down the hallway, and into the chapel yelling "sanctuary!"

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-22   1:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: nolu chan (#37)

That made me laugh out loud.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-22   1:37:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: nolu chan (#22)

t's Mr. Chan. My homework was doing due diligence looking for somebody, anybody, who had published the claim that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ occurred in 312 A.D., as an historical fact.

Your claims were the only sources I could find. There is no shortage of claims that Constantine allegedly alleged that he had seen a vision in the sky.

Don't know why you say "alleged." The sign of Christ that Constantine saw, and everyone saw, is easily seen with any star-tracking software (that can go forward and backward in time). Just set the date to October 27, 312 AD and you will see it, plain as the nose on your face. It was an unusual alignment of the visible planets that formed (with other stars) a chi-rho or XP, the first two letters of Christ in Greek. And all the history books that I know of say that Jesus appeared to Constantine and said "By this, conquer." And all of them, when I went to school, said that Christianity has been the dominant force on Earth ever since the day the sign appeared. And we will be to the end. Resistance is futile.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   2:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tooconservative (#5)

I think there's a rule here at LF: only one prophet per thread. I'll check with Stone.

You are a prophet too. You do it by deriving facts from glib assumptions.

A Pole  posted on  2017-08-22   4:01:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: interpreter (#39)

And all the history books that I know of say that Jesus appeared to Constantine and said "By this, conquer." And all of them, when I went to school, said that Christianity has been the dominant force on Earth ever since the day the sign appeared. And we will be to the end.

Not exactly. The so called Epoch of Constantine, ENDED with secularization of Christian states in XX century and fall of Christian monarchies.

We live in the post-Millennial times - "when the thousand years [an epoch] are ended, Satan will be released from his prison And will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle"

The Antichrist will come next to sit in the rebuilt Temple to rule the world.

A Pole  posted on  2017-08-22   4:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: interpreter (#36)

Well, Mr Un didn't nuke us, thank God.

The Koreans put the patronym first, not last as we do in the West.

The family name is Kim. So he's Mr. Kim if you want to be more accurate. The Jong-Un is his first/middle name. His daddy was Kim Jong-Il (aka Dear Leader), his grandpa was Kim Il-Sung (aka Great Leader). And Kim Jong-Un is aka Great Successor. Just a typical commie-flavored Oriental despotic dynasty.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-22   7:22:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: redleghunter (#34) (Edited)

Yeah I went to Catholic school. My knuckles can testify to the righteous judgement I received in Sister Mary Midgets class.

So no I too had not heard of the second coming of Christ in 312 A.D.

As a matter of fact the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed (as amended in 381 AD) had:

"He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end."

Seems the church of that era was not convinced Jesus Christ came back in 312 AD.

Yes, but even you admit that the Nicene Creed has been amended. Most of the Bishops at Nicea are on record as saying they felt like they were already in Heaven, i.e., Heaven on Earth. The original Nicene Creed was rather ambiguous about the second coming, but it did not explicitly say it would be in the future. Most of the bishops thought it had already taken place. And they even attached an anathema to the Creed, basically saying that anyone who changed it would spend eternity in hell. And that is probably where the bishops who changed it are going, if they are not there already. There is only one legitimate ecumenical council, and it was held when Constantine sent his messengers with a trumpet and gathered all the elect from all the Church together, to Nicea (fulfilling Matthew 24:31). That only happened once, not 7 times. With each successive ecumenical council, the Church strayed further from the truth, and the doctrine that St Peter and the disciples taught. To sum it all up, in 312/325 AD, most of the bishops of the Church thought that the second coming had already occurred, but that teaching was changed in 381 (or amended as you say).

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   9:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: interpreter (#36)

But I am petty sure my first scenario came to pass, that a child was born during the eclipse. I am predicting, as many scientists are, that a child born in 2017 (possibly during the eclipse) will live to be 1000 years old, as the Revelation also indicates.

Therefore, your prediction is safe for another 1000 years. Thanks for that.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   9:58:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A Pole (#41)

Not exactly. The so called Epoch of Constantine, ENDED with secularization of Christian states in XX century and fall of Christian monarchies.

We live in the post-Millennial times - "when the thousand years [an epoch] are ended, Satan will be released from his prison And will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle"

The Antichrist will come next to sit in the rebuilt Temple to rule the world.

As my dad always told my mother when they got into an argument, you are half right (about the thousand years). For exactly 1000 years, the Church was united as one (as Jesus often prayed for). Then the Pope got a wild hair up his butt, and added one word to the Nicene-Constantinople Creed, and all hell broke loose. First came the Great Schism, and the eastern Church excommunicated the western Church and vice versa. And the western Church went so far as to attack and sack Constantinople. That paved the way for the Islamic hordes, and they very easily and quickly conquered all of Eastern Europe.

Fast forward to today. It has been almost exactly 1000 years since the Pope added that one word to the Nicene Creed, which led to the Great Schism (although Church historians differ on exactly when it was added). But, as near as I can figure it, my Church (the Anglican Church) took the offending word out exactly 1000 years after it was added, and now (even as we speak) my Church and the eastern Churches are engaged in talks that will eventually allow the de facto head of the western Church (my Church) to come back together with the Eastern Churches. (So far, the present Pope wants nothing to do with it, but there is a slim possibility that the Roman Church will at some point join the talks). Then the Church will again be united as one, and again rule the Earth unhindered by Satan, and for a thousand years. Then Satan gets loose again and the battle with Gog and Magog occurs and the earth is destroyed by fire from heaven. Sounds like MAD to me. Mutual Assured Destruction from nuclear bombs.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   10:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: nolu chan (#37)

My funniest 9th grade recollection is of a big dude called Brother De Sales who broke a few 18-inch rulers over the course of a year. A student at the front right of the class, near a door, did something which caused Brother De Sales to grab his ruler and head his way. The student dashed out the door, down the hallway, and into the chapel yelling "sanctuary!"

LOL. In High School (all boys Catholic type) we had a priest for English Lit. He was a sailor and boxer before becoming a priest. He used to outright open slap students in the head. Same thing happened. Some kid named Boucher was a frequent target as he would call Fr. Lancelotti 'father drink a lottie' (the priest did have some drinking issues as after lunch he smelled a bit like cheap whiskey)when he thought the priest was out of ear shot. But the dude had good hearing and would just walk up and smack the teen in the head.

One day some kid from another class wrote on the desk. Fr. L saw it the next period when ol' Boucher was sitting there. So he yelled at Boucher for a good min or two about defacing school property and Boucher lashed out and said he did not do it, he got slapped and then said "F%^& You Lancelotti I did not do it." Then sprinted out of the class room to the safe havens of the effeminate priest across the hall.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   10:06:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: interpreter (#43)

Most of the bishops thought it had already taken place.

Which ones? Please show me the evidence.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-08-22   10:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#42)

The Koreans put the patronym first, not last as we do in the West.

The family name is Kim. So he's Mr. Kim if you want to be more accurate. The Jong-Un is his first/middle name. His daddy was Kim Jong-Il (aka Dear Leader), his grandpa was Kim Il-Sung (aka Great Leader). And Kim Jong-Un is aka Great Successor. Just a typical commie-flavored Oriental despotic dynasty.

Actually I knew that. But most of the world thinks Un is his last name, and technically it is, whether or not it is his surname. Anyhow you knew and everyone knows who I am talking about so it is a moot point.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   10:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: redleghunter (#46)

Well, I have heard many stories like that. But I want to add a good story. When my oldest daughter was 5, and about to turn six, she very much wanted to start school and she was extremely depressed about it because her birthday fell a few days after school started. And it so happened the Catholic school was very close and practically in our back yard, so I enrolled her there and all she had to do was go through the back gate and she was there. And she constantly reassured me that her teacher was very nice and never rapped her knuckles with a ruler or anything like that. And both she and I credit that RC teacher with her head start in school, and she now has a college degree (unlike my other daughter who I enrolled in public schools). So I would have to say, from my experience with them, Catholic schools and most Christian schools are quite good, and far better than public schools where they are not taught any good old-fashioned morals and in fact are taught Islam and Buddhism and all sorts of crap.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   10:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: goldilucky (#29)

My dreams are not sci-fi. Mine are prophetic. I have had these visions since I was 9.

Does that mean there are three prophets on LF? Love this site. It reminds me very much of the town and county where I was born. There have always been at least two prophets there. And when I was born, a prophetess said I would be the greatest prophet to ever come out of Matagorda County (where Texas began when Stephen F Austin and the Episcopalians landed there).

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   11:10:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: paraclete (#24) (Edited)

It may have escaped your notice but the second coming hasn't happened yet nor has the 1000 year reign of Jesus, you should depend more on scripture and throw those errant "history" books away. No doubt the Catholic Church was raptured in 312 AD meaning that all that was left were sinners and unbelievers who Constantine led into this post coming paradise, and who did not covert until his death bed, to manipulate them

"you should depend more on scripture and throw those errant "history" books away"

I cant remember when I have heard a more utterly ridiculous statement. If the history books, and scientific facts, do not agree with the Bible then we should throw away the Bible. But the Good News is, the facts agree 100% with the Bible, so it is a win-win situation.

And the Catholic Church was indeed "raptured" (in a way) to Nicea, if you want to use that word but it is not in the Bible. And Paul was of course wrong when he said the elect would travel through the air. They took common ordinary roads. As far as I know, Paul's wild version of the "rapture" is the only wrong thing in the Bible. But as for me, I tend to stay away from the ramblings of Paul, and stick to the words of Jesus (and God in the OT).

And Constantine did NOT convert on his death bed. He became a believer the moment Jesus appeared to him. It is true that he wasn't baptized until late in life, but it is not because he didn't want to be baptized. According to the Orthodox Church, Constantine at the moment he saw Jesus, became a "Christian in Training" (when translated into English). And he had to graduate from training class first.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   11:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: redleghunter (#47)

"Most of the bishops thought it had already taken place."

Which ones? Please show me the evidence.

All you guys are after me to provide proof for everything I say. And I will in due time, but there are only 24 hours in the day, and I have many other things to do besides answering to you guys.

I have done a quick "Google" for the answer to your question, but to no avail. But I have a big book on the 7 ecumenical councils that is close to a thousand pages long, and when I have time I will fetch it from my library and wade through it for you guys and provide all the proof(s) you are asking for.

Please be patient. I am old, and cant see very good, so I tend to be a very slow reader.

Barry M

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   12:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: interpreter (#0) (Edited)

My magic book say "Never hit on 18."
It's sound wisdom.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-08-22   13:43:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: interpreter (#50) (Edited)

Well I guess that would make me #3 although I would rather say that I have visions to see things before they happen.

Back in October of 1987, I had moved to L.A., and was staying with my mother in this huge apartment complex. She worked at a law firm and I was just trying to finish a trade school in accounting. One evening while I was helping her prepare dinner I asked her what she would do were there to be an earthquake of such great magnitude. Her response was, "I don't know and don't want to think about that right now." The next morning, just as I was preparing to head to work and she was at her sister's apartment heading to her job, the Whittier quake struck with such intensity that it threw me totally out of bed and my room was thrusting up and down violently. I froze in fear and as soon as the shaking had died down, I called up my aunt and asked for mom. When I got a hold of my mom, I asked her if she remembered what I asked her last night. She freaked out on me.

I also sensed this happening the day before the '94 quake hit there too. Somebody was handing me a bible leaflet as I was boarding the MTA bus heading home from work. That night I prayed before going to sleep. The next morning, around 4:31 am, I was awoken by a violent thrust from the earth that threw me out of my bed and next thing I remember is stepping in bare feet on glass trying to find my lighted dial landline phone as my flashlight. I remember praying in the doorway as the shaking continued for 3 minutes. My apartment was spared being red-tagged. It sat right on the epicenter of that quake fault line.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-22   14:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: goldilucky (#54) (Edited)

Greetings goldilucky and fellow prophet # 3,

On the subject of earthquakes, I've only been in one, and yes it was in California (where I was stationed for awhile), and it may have been the same earthquake you are talking about. On the day I got out of boot camp, on December 23rd, 1964, there was an earthquake in San Diego that day, which I thought was very fitting. Instead of letting us out first thing in the morning like they usually do, the commanding officer got the bright idea that he would use my troop to clean all the windows in the Administration Bldg, then let us out of the prison camp as I call it. So we cleaned all the windows and then he let us out for our two-week well-deserved leave. And I had already missed my flight to Houston, so instead of hopping on the bus to go to the airport (like most of the guys) I decided to walk across the street to a restaurant and get a nice, decent hot meal (which I hadn't had in 2 very long months). And I will admit that I was wishing something bad would happen to that boot camp and the commanding officer, and mostly subconsciencely I guess I was kinda praying for it. Anyhow I ordered and when they brought my food my booth started shaking violently, and I looked behind me to see who was shaking it and there was no one there. And my drink slid off the table and I barely caught my plate before it met the same fate. I had never experienced an earthquake before and it was pretty scary. But after about 10 minutes of that everything returned to normal -- almost. After downing my meal, I went to the airport, and while I was waiting on my flight I was watching the news, and the newsman said that the only damage was to the Navy base, and all the windows of the administration building were shattered. Nothing else was damaged. And I am increasingly realizing that whatever I pray for, no matter how crazy it may be, usually happens (in one way or another, and God works in mysterious ways just like the Bible says).

I have also had some very prophetic dreams that I didn't think had a snowball's chance in hell of coming true, but most all of my dreams have come true (and I'm pretty sure the rest of them will likewise come true sometime in the future).

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   17:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: interpreter (#55)

WOW! That is intense

Let me tell you about two more dreams I had.

I dreamt I was walking on my street but on a median strip heading East. I hear a roaring in the skies and I look up to see thousands of black jet fighter planes flying ahead over me (about 1200 feet above ground). I see the leader of these planes flying ahead and suddenly the plane dips down and flip-flops towards me. I started to run like crazy and some guy behind me says, "Do you see what I see?" He continues shouting, "We are at war." (I woke up around 8:50 am PT that Sept 11, 2001. Turned on the news and watched about the twin towers and WTC burning in NYC and the Pentagon.)

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June 22, '03

Had this dream that I am watching some Middle East peace process take place. A male voice from above tells me to look for two little old men from the ancient of days but to not look directly in their eyes for if I do, they will blind me. The voice tells me the two men are the two witnessess from the Mt. of Olives. So I managed to spot one of the little men. I sense this peace process was being televised on television but I was there in person (in spirit) watching it. The little man turns to me and as he speaks to me an oblong shadow covers so that I am not blinded. He speaks to me in Aramaic. Although I do not speak this ancient language I recognize it's origin. He tells me this is the false peace process that must take place before the End of Time is to start. He tells me that I am not to fear for the time is at hand when God will destroy everything with fire. I look at him and I understand his message. He says I must understand and be very alert for the time is drawing near and that it is not fear of Man I should be concerned with but fear of God. He turns away from me and I notice that he and and the other witness are somehow invisible to most of the viewers. Both little men appear to be monks from the ancient of days wearing sackcloth which was to signify the times of the mourning. I woke up and began jotting down this info.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-22   17:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: interpreter (#39)

Don't know why you say "alleged." The sign of Christ that Constantine saw, and everyone saw, is easily seen with any star-tracking software (that can go forward and backward in time). Just set the date to October 27, 312 AD and you will see it, plain as the nose on your face.

I say alleged because it is not a fact that everyone saw it. For all I know, Constantine was passed out in a drunken stupor. It is fact that there was an eclipse yesterday. It is not a fact that everyone saw it.

It is not a fact that a predictable phenomenon in the sky was a sign of Christ. Books on religion and faith may have such content, but not history books or, as you claimed, "all history books."

It was an unusual alignment of the visible planets that formed (with other stars) a chi-rho or XP, the first two letters of Christ in Greek.

Even if someone claimed to see that, so what? People see Jesus on their burrito, or all nature of things in the clouds. You say it was a predictable event, like yesterday's eclipse.

And all the history books that I know of say that Jesus appeared to Constantine and said "By this, conquer." And all of them, when I went to school, said that Christianity has been the dominant force on Earth ever since the day the sign appeared. And we will be to the end. Resistance is futile.

I knew of no such history book before you repeated that unsubstantiated claim, and after it I still know of no such history book.

I can find no reference to such a claim on the net which is not attributable directly to yourself. I know of no Christian religion whose theology supports such a claim. You appear to be the only one claiming the Second Coming happened in 312 AD. Which known faith endorses such a claim?

I never heard of a claim that the Second Coming occurred in 312 AD until yesterday. I fail to see how it would not have at least stirred controversy had it been in all the history books, as claimed. I found no evidence to support your unsubstantiated appeal to authority in history books, and you continue to provide none.

Albion put the question well in 2013.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/#post-64289338

interpreter said:

The sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds in 312 AD, shortly after sunset on Oct.27th.

Well, Constantine said that he saw a certain sign in the clouds.

But that aside, I was interested in the nations rising against nations, the sun being darkened, the moon not giving any light, angels with trumpets appearing, the stars falling from the heavens, the Son of Man (not Constantine) visibly reappearing with great power and glory, and, of course, the Gospel having already been preached into all the world.

None of that happened.

Your claim at #8 upstream was:

As all history books say, Christian nations have been ruling the earth ever since the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus returned (on October 27h, 312 AD).

At Christian Forums you phrased your assertion as:

[interpreter, Christian Forums, Oct 11, 2013]

"The second coming of Jesus was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow."

Your overt appeal to authority is that ALL THE HISTORY BOOKS say Jesus returned in 321 AD, that the Second Coming of Jesus was in 312 AD.

If, as you claim in your appeal to authority, all the history books say it, can you prophesy when you will be able to identify one of those history books that says the Second Coming of Jesus was in 312 AD?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-22   19:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: goldilucky (#56) (Edited)

That is pretty amazing.

Now let me tell you about two dreams I've had that are equally mind- boggling.

On the day I turned 17, on March 30th, 1964, a big sink hole suddenly appeared between our house and the street, and within a few hours it swallowed up half the street and was also expanding towards my house, and my bedroom and my window. I was scared that during the night the sink hole would swallow up my bed with me in it, but I finally fell asleep. Then I had a dream about the hole and it kept getting bigger until it extended all the way to the Gulf of Mexico (which was about a dozen miles from our house). Then a huge aircraft carrier sailed right up to my window, and the Captain let down a gangplank and said "Permission to come aboard sailor." And then I woke up, but I couldn't forget that dream and after 50 years I can still remember it like it was yesterday. And a few days later I realized you can join the Navy when you are 17 (with your parent's permission) so I began to ask my parents if I could join the Navy. First I asked my Dad and he said no. So I went to live with my mother and began pestering her until she said yes, and just a few months after receiving the dream, I was in the Navy. And after completing my basic training and Aviation Electronics school I was on that Aircraft Carrier, and as I was walking up the gangplank, the Captain said Permission to come aboard sailor. Same Carrier, same gangplank and same Captain that were in my dream when I turned 17. Some 17 year-olds don't know what they are going to do with their life, but I didn't have any doubt about what I was supposed to do. I was supposed to help kill some atheists in Nam (and if our President(s) would have had the guts to let us bomb the hell out of them, we would have won that war).

I'll have to tell you the other dream later when I have more time

Barry M

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   19:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: interpreter (#58)

I was supposed to help kill some atheists in Nam

How could that possibly have happened to you if you were born in '64? Or am I to interpret that this was part of the dream?

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-22   19:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: nolu chan (#57)

Your overt appeal to authority is that ALL THE HISTORY BOOKS say Jesus returned in 321 AD, that the Second Coming of Jesus was in 312 AD.

If, as you claim in your appeal to authority, all the history books say it, can you prophesy when you will be able to identify one of those history books that says the Second Coming of Jesus was in 312 AD?

I will do it as soon as I find a place to live. Found out today I am being evicted, and I'm fixin to be homeless unless I can figure something out and quick.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   20:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: goldilucky (#59)

You need to read that again. The dream was on my 17th birthday which was in '64.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22   20:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: interpreter (#61)

Ok, I got it. Thanks!

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-22   21:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All (#58)

OK, I will now tell you about another dream, and this one made it into my book, The Revelation: a Historicist View. The following is three paragraphs from my commentary on the Great Whore of chapter 17. (my dream is discussed in the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs):

In the Revelation, a Great Whore can be defined as any Christian nation, or any Christian king or queen, that does an about face and converts to atheism or another religion. These verses primarily refer to Moscow, but if we assume that definition also applies to princesses, then Princess Diana was also a great whore. And the minute she converted to Islam she was killed in the proverbial “bolt of lightning.” God is like that sometimes. And the same goes for Jews. When Israel’s PM Ariel Sharon gave away the Gaza strip and then said he was going to also give away half of the West Bank to Muslims, God immediately struck him dead (that is, brain-dead).

As for the fate of Moscow, in the Revelation, the Euphrates is the boundary between the East (the “bad guys”) and the West (the “good guys”). But Moscow straddles that boundary, half in the East and half in the West. When I fell asleep thinking about that perplexing quandary, I dreamed I was standing in Iraq looking at the dried up Euphrates. In the middle of it was a great whore, dying of AIDS and sitting in a wheelchair. Then a great curtain came down from Heaven and separated the East from the West, and it caught the back of her wheelchair. She wanted to make it into the West, but she was stuck there in the middle of the Euphrates. So I ran, and with all the strength I could muster, I managed to pull her through into the West and into Heaven (on Earth). But when I took a closer look at her, it turns out that the great whore was an ex-girlfriend of mine who would not remain true and loved to sleep around. So I’m not sure what it all means.

But most of my dreams are prophetic, and right on the money. And as I often say, most things in the Revelation have several meanings. So what I think my dream means is, my ex-girlfriend (and I won’t name any names to protect the guilty, but she knows who she is) was/is an example of a little whore (i.e., the church organist in a large church, and the best I have ever heard, who suddenly turned atheist). And I’m pretty sure she’s going to die from AIDS or one of the other plague if she doesn’t change her ways. But I now have some hope that, with God’s help, I can pull her into Heaven—after I help Trump pull Moscow into Heaven on Earth (the West).

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-23   8:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: interpreter (#63)

Interesting dream. I was unaware that Princess Diana had converted to Islam.

goldilucky  posted on  2017-08-23   14:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: goldilucky (#64)

Yeah, just a few seconds before she died. That's what the shoffer was watching instead of the road. Kinda like cell phone users of today. That is a pretty sure way to die.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-23   22:15:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#60)

To Mr Chan. you are a very worthy adversary/debater in the trueist sense of those two words. And I hereby promise that I will try my best to answer all your questions/doubts in due time. But right now I am up to m neck in alligators, so please be patient.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-23   22:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: interpreter (#63)

As for the fate of Moscow, in the Revelation, the Euphrates is the boundary between the East (the “bad guys”) and the West (the “good guys”). But Moscow straddles that boundary, half in the East and half in the West. When I fell asleep thinking about that perplexing quandary, I dreamed I was standing in Iraq looking at the dried up Euphrates. In the middle of it was a great whore, dying of AIDS and sitting in a wheelchair. Then a great curtain came down from Heaven and separated the East from the West, and it caught the back of her wheelchair. She wanted to make it into the West, but she was stuck there in the middle of the Euphrates. So I ran, and with all the strength I could muster, I managed to pull her through into the West and into Heaven (on Earth). But when I took a closer look at her, it turns out that the great whore was an ex-girlfriend of mine who would not remain true and loved to sleep around. So I’m not sure what it all means.

Maybe you wouldn't have dreams like that if you'd stop dating whores.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-23   23:56:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: interpreter (#66)

To Mr Chan. you are a very worthy adversary/debater in the trueist sense of those two words. And I hereby promise that I will try my best to answer all your questions/doubts in due time. But right now I am up to m neck in alligators, so please be patient.

My only relevant question/doubt concerns the claim about history books, inferring your religious claim is generally accepted as historical fact. Religious belief is based on faith.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-24   22:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: nolu chan (#68)

Religious belief is based on faith.

Faith in mythology.

rlk  posted on  2017-08-24   23:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: nolu chan (#68)

Wrong, I for one do not put any faith in anything but historical and scientific facts. That's how I know that God and everything in the Bible is real. Otherwise we might as well throw it away with the garbage.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-26   16:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: interpreter (#70)

Wrong, I for one....

You, for one, doing or believing something does not translate to making a claim generally accepted historical or scientific fact. The majority of the people believing the Earth was flat, did not make it so. Neither did it put the Earth at the center of the galaxy, with the Sun orbiting around it.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-26   18:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: nolu chan (#71) (Edited)

You, for one, doing or believing something does not translate to making a claim generally accepted historical or scientific fact. The majority of the people believing the Earth was flat, did not make it so. Neither did it put the Earth at the center of the galaxy, with the Sun orbiting around it.

You are so funny. I did not say the earth was flat. I said what every history book in the western world said until very recently when history began to be rewritten so as not to offend any non-Christians.

And I am sorry, but I am now in the middle of the biggest flood in recorded history, and the marina where I live is now under at least 6 to 8 feet of water, and my library/warehouse is also under at least 2 to 3 feet of water, so there is no way on earth I am going to be able to offer you any proof of what I'm saying at this moment in history. So I suggest you google it. I would google it myself but I am too busy rescuing my friends and relatives.

interpreter  posted on  2017-08-27   21:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: interpreter (#72)

You are so funny. I did not say the earth was flat. I said what every history book in the western world said until very recently when history began to be rewritten so as not to offend any non-Christians.

You are funny.

I did not say you said the Earth was flat. At the time nearly all on Earth believed the Earth was flat, their firm belief did not make the Earth flat. Appearance of the claim in books did not make the claim true. Modern day appearance of the flat Earth claim in hundreds or thousands of Youtube videos does not make the Earth flat.

You made, and continue to make, an unsubstantiated claim that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ happened in 312 A.D., and that this claimed happening appeared in all history books. You continue to display an inability to identify a single one of "all the history books" with such claim included as history.

Removing such elusive alleged content, in some unidentified book or books, could hardly serve the purpose of not offending non-Christians. It is a claim not espoused by non-Christians and you are the first Christian I have heard espouse this particular claim. I remain unaware of any Christian faith that has ever published your claim of a 312 A.D Second Coming as a tenet of said faith. Searching the internet turned up no other source than yourself making the claim.

While you attribute your claim to all the history books, and now apparently to all, a majority, or some significant number of Christians, no adherent has yet been identified other than yourself.

I can readily identify more current day adherents to an expressed flat earth belief, than I can identify expressed believers in the Second Coming of Jesus Christ having occurred in 312 A.D.

Your claimed omnipresent history book sources could be readily identified by an Amazon link to such a history book.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-28   15:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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