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Source: Me URL Source: [None] Published: Aug 20, 2017 Author: Barry Miyet Post Date: 2017-08-20 02:16:23 by interpreter Keywords: None Views: 20798 Comments: 73 I have a premonition that something earth-shaking will come to pass during tomorrow's eclipse. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. It could be along the lines of a child will be born to a couple in Tulsa who are there to pay their taxes. (A bright Venus/Star in the East will appear over the Tulsa area around high noon very much like Venus appeared over Bethlahem when Jesus was born. Or it could be more like MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) if demon-possessed Mr. Un decides to attack us tommorow. Any thoughts anyone? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 22. #2. To: interpreter (#0) more like MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) if demon-possessed Mr. Un decides to attack us tommorow. Your psychic powers are a huge threat to Dear Leader, you'll be the prime target. #1 Hondo68  posted on  2017-08-20   3:10:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: hondo68 (#2) That is actually a back-handed compliment. I wear the badge/label with pride, glad to be a threat to Satan and his followers. But lets talk about who is a great threat to our nation, how about it. Actually, there are 2 or 3 things, but let's talk about Ron Paul who BTW hails from my neck of the woods, and we are close acqaintances. Back in 1980 We campaigned side by side for Ronald Reagan. Actually I campaigned for Reagan, and Paul campaigned mostly for himself, but he road in on the coattails of Ronald Reagan (a great president). Anyhow I often voted for Ron Paul in local politics (basically because he is for less government), but the idea of him being President scares the heck out of me. God didn't put us here to be isolationists, He put us here to rule the Earth, and that is the only reason He raised us up. If we were to ever shirk from that duty by electing an isolationist like Paul (and/or his son) we will very likely (and quickly) cease to exist and joined the big trash heap of history. You can count on it. interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   9:34:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: interpreter, Vicomte13, redleghunter, BobCeleste (#6) Anyhow I often voted for Ron Paul in local politics (basically because he is for less government), but the idea of him being President scares the heck out of me. God didn't put us here to be isolationists, He put us here to rule the Earth, and that is the only reason He raised us up. I also liked Rand Paul and his dad, Ron. The history depicted in the Bible is that of Jews located unfortunately at the crossroads of history, between great empires that rose and fell with some mass Jewish slavery involved and various migrations to the cities of the Greek empire and the later Roman empire and ending in 70AD with the destruction of Jerusalem and the beginning of the Diaspora and the rabbinic era in other great cities of the Roman empire and the eastern empires where Jews existed in large numbers. I don't see how you derive in any serious doctrinal fashion the idea that Christians are to rule the earth. Scripture tells Christians to evangelize the world and prophecy tells us that end times will come when the Gospel is preached to everyone in every tongue and that there will be a great falling away from the true faith in false churches and that they will persecute the Remnant until the Rapture and that the Millennium of Christ will then exist for a thousand years in which a resurrected Christ will rule the earth from the New Jerusalem. At least, that is pretty standard modern Millenial apocalyptic doctrine over recent decades. You instead seem to imagine that Christians will rule this secular world. Scripture indicates this at no point, pointing only to the rule of Christ as King for a Millennium. In which case we would pass, over the course of 7 years (if we survived physically) from being citizens of a democratic republic to being the subjects of the Monarchy of Christ ruling from a seat of power in the New Jerusalem. Jesus would be our God Emperor for a thousand years. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-20   10:58:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Tooconservative (#7) (Edited) It is no imagination. As all history books say, Christian nations have been ruling the earth ever since the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus returned (on October 27h, 312 AD). At least they all used to say that. Nowadays the libs are in control of our schools, and history has been completely rewritten in order to be "politically correct" and not offend any pagans (or atheists). If we are to continue ruling the world, we are going to hafta quit bending over backwards to be "politically" correct, and start telling it like it is, and the way God wills it to be. And it is utterly ridiculous to think that all of the Revelation will unfold in 7 short years. It has now been unfolding for over 1700 years (since the return of Christ in 312 AD). It is called the Historicist View of the Revelation, and it used to be the predominant view before the ridiculous Futurist View was invented around the mid-19th century. interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   15:19:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: interpreter (#8) (Edited) No history books say that kook false prophet. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-08-20   15:20:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: A K A Stone (#9) No history books say that If you are talking about the history textbooks in use today, then that is a correct statement. I'm talking about the World History textbooks that were in use when I went to school in the 60's. interpreter  posted on  2017-08-20   15:44:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: interpreter, A K A Stone (#10) [interpreter #8] As all history books say, Christian nations have been ruling the earth ever since the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds and Jesus returned (on October 27h, 312 AD). [A K A Stone #9] No history books say that kook false prophet. [interpreter #10] If you are talking about the history textbooks in use today, then that is a correct statement. I'm talking about the World History textbooks that were in use when I went to school in the 60's. I went to school in the 50's and 60's and never heard of of a 312 A.D. return. To what history books do you refer? Where I find mention of it on the internet, the sole author is Barry Midyet (interpreter) and no history book is ever identified. - - - - - - - - - - [interpreter, LF 2017-04-25 16:55:40 ET] "The history books tell us that the sign of Christ (a Chi-Rho, the first two letters of Christ in Greek) appeared in the sky on Oct 27th, 312 AD...." [interpreter, LF 2016-05-06 10:00:19 ET] "Every world history textbook in the world, or at least every one that I have read, says that Jesus returned in 312AD on Oct. 27th when the sign of Christ appeared in the sky and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine...." [interpreter, Christian Forums, Oct 11, 2013] "The second coming of Jesus was in 312 AD when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, and Jesus came into power through St. Constantine who rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. That day is called the turning point in history because ever since that day, Christian nations have been the dominant force on earth." http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=46099 Title: The 5th horseman Source: Revelation 19 URL Source: http://the5horsemen.com Published: May 6, 2016 Author: Me and John/Jesus Post Date: 2016-05-06 08:28:45 by interpreter [excerpt] Many Christians think the 5th horseman is Jesus, but I disagree for many reasons, first of all because the history books say Jesus returned in 312 AD. But at the same time, it can also be argued that the five horsemen are five dispensations of the second coming. Also, http://the5horsemen.com/ The Fifth Horseman by Barry Midyet (interpreter) Barry Midyet I write about the Revelation. My objective is to prove there is a God (who knows the future). The following is an excerpt from my book, The Revelation: A Historicist View: The Four Horsemen (of Rev 6) [excerpt from the excerpt from the book] In Revelation 5, we are told that the Revelation can only be opened by the coming of Jesus, the Lamb of God. The history books tell us that the second coming was in AD 312, when the sign of Christ appeared in the clouds, and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine and said, "By this, conquer." - - - - - - - - - - Christian Forums https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293456 Albion #26, Oct 12, 2013 interpreter said: St. Constantine was the first Christian conqueror, and he arrived on the world scene when the sign of the Son of Man appeared in the clouds, marking the second coming. And he rode a white horse and conquered with a bow. You said that already. And I asked you where were all the other signs that the Bible teaches will occur at the time of the second coming. You can't answer that because they did NOT occur. OK? And since they did not, Constantine's doings CANNOT be the second coming of Christ in any respect. https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293489 interpreter #27, Oct 12, 2013 Albion said: You said that already. And I asked you where were all the other signs that the Bible teaches will occur at the time of the second coming. You can't answer that because they did NOT occur. OK? And since they did not, Constantine's doings CANNOT be the second coming of Christ in any respect. I have no doubt that the sign of the Son of Man was preceded by other signs in the sky such as a lunar eclipse and/or solar eclipse, and meteor showers. https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-second-coming-was-in-312ad.7779535/page-2#post-64293520 Albion #28, Oct 12, 2013 interpreter said: I have no doubt that the sign of the Son of Man was preceded by other signs in the sky such as a lunar eclipse and/or solar eclipse, and meteor showers. Then you are telling us about your own personal theory concerning something you think might have happened, not something that did. And you have no evidence whatsoever of these various (not just one) phenomena that could not, would not, have been missed by anyone--stars falling from the sky, angels with trumpets, the Lord appearing in the heavens, the sun being darkened, etc. What we are telling you in return is our "take" on the subject, which is that unless these things actually did happen--and if they did, they would certainly have been noticed even more easily than the color of Constantine's horse ^_^ --they didn't happen. And of course, there's always that little problem of there being no end of the age, judgment, etc. About these things, we have "no doubt." - - - - - - - - - - nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   2:13:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: nolu chan, redleghunter (#13) Woh...that's some awesome cross-forum sleuthing between LF and ChristianForums. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-21   9:29:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Tooconservative (#14) Woh...that's some awesome cross-forum sleuthing between LF and ChristianForums. Yes, yes it is. Even I am impressed with Mr Chan, who I consider to be a very good debator who at least does his homework before he (or she?) posts (unlike most posters on LF). interpreter  posted on  2017-08-21   9:59:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: interpreter, Tooconservative (#17) Even I am impressed with Mr Chan, who I consider to be a very good debator who at least does his homework before he (or she?) posts (unlike most posters on LF). It's Mr. Chan. My homework was doing due diligence looking for somebody, anybody, who had published the claim that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ occurred in 312 A.D., as an historical fact. Your claims were the only sources I could find. There is no shortage of claims that Constantine allegedly alleged that he had seen a vision in the sky. nolu chan  posted on  2017-08-21   13:58:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 22. #39. To: nolu chan (#22) t's Mr. Chan. My homework was doing due diligence looking for somebody, anybody, who had published the claim that the Second Coming of Jesus Christ occurred in 312 A.D., as an historical fact. Your claims were the only sources I could find. There is no shortage of claims that Constantine allegedly alleged that he had seen a vision in the sky. Don't know why you say "alleged." The sign of Christ that Constantine saw, and everyone saw, is easily seen with any star-tracking software (that can go forward and backward in time). Just set the date to October 27, 312 AD and you will see it, plain as the nose on your face. It was an unusual alignment of the visible planets that formed (with other stars) a chi-rho or XP, the first two letters of Christ in Greek. And all the history books that I know of say that Jesus appeared to Constantine and said "By this, conquer." And all of them, when I went to school, said that Christianity has been the dominant force on Earth ever since the day the sign appeared. And we will be to the end. Resistance is futile. interpreter  posted on  2017-08-22 02:00:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 22. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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