Title: *BRUTAL TRUTH DEBATE*: Christian vs. Muslim; Christ vs. Muhammad/Bible vs. Koran (Fascinating Listen) Source:
You Tube URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVU3 ... ist&p=8DF2F55C1F8C5A75&index=2 Published:Feb 28, 2008 Author:Dave Hunt Post Date:2009-12-13 03:17:12 by Liberator Keywords:Christianity, Islam, debate Views:69437 Comments:164
This is a debate between Dave Hunt and Shabir Ally in Toronto Canada in 2008. Christianity vs. Islam.
Hunt's credentials and scholarship are impeccable as is his courage. As the author of over 4,000,000 books (of which three I own), you will see and hear him NOT mince any words about the deeply flawed Muhammad, and how deeply flawed the Koran is. No candy-coated PC-Speak here.
He compares and contrasts the Koran vs. Bible convincingly, with conviction and armed with facts. Chances are none of us will ever see another non-compromising debate of this kind ever.
This is Part 3 which blends seamlessly into Part 4, into Part 5 and so on. Hunt's politely yet firmly continues to delve into the stark differences between the two belief systems.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know your self but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle ~ The Art of War, Sun Tzu
Is terrorism the enemy or is Islam the enemy – “Both” is not an answer.
You are just another ignorant fool or a whore for islam.
Do you even know what islam and it's "holy" books teach about how moo slums MUST treat ALL non- islamic peoples of the world?
Do you even know what islam's own histories say about what it has done to the "dar al-harb"?
It certainly IS true that for ALL non-islamic peoples of the world, and for most islamic peoples of the world, islam IS 'terrorism". (What is the punishment for conversion from islam genius?, how are islam's women and children treated like genius?)
I wouldn't rate your intellect nearly as high as that of even a stoned "adolescent", and I d@mned sure don't care what it "does" for you chump.
I'll reply to your expected answers sometime tomorrow, you caught me as I was going out the door.
… “expected answers” …
Please don't be surprised when the answers you “expect” do not arrive – and don’t bother to wait for them.
The norm for the practice of social intercourse prohibits me from accepting a bully’s claim that his views are correct or that he has the right to expect anything - because he simply thinks he has the strength and propensity to violence, to attack a poster’s comments.
Therefore, I cannot exchange thoughts and opinions with you until you learn to develop and to exhibit a tone of civility in your approach to sharing information.
Should you have an interest in conducting an intelligent discussion, then I will join you in that and you may now make your attempt at a courteous exchange.
However, if you are interested in continuing to act like an a**, then you are doing an excellent job and you can continue alone in your quest to exceed your current level - and move on to achieve far greater supremacy, but you will do that with someone other than me.
In closing, may I say that evidence of the arrogance you display is exceeded only by your attempt at the use of fevered language.
MD; I'll reply to your expected answers sometime tomorrow, you caught me as I was going out the door.
T; … “expected answers” …
Please don't be surprised when the answers you “expect” do not arrive – and don’t bother to wait for them.
The norm for the practice of social intercourse prohibits me from accepting a bully’s claim that his views are correct or that he has the right to expect anything - because he simply thinks he has the strength and propensity to violence, to attack a poster’s comments.
Therefore, I cannot exchange thoughts and opinions with you until you learn to develop and to exhibit a tone of civility in your approach to sharing information.
Should you have an interest in conducting an intelligent discussion, then I will join you in that and you may now make your attempt at a courteous exchange.
However, if you are interested in continuing to act like an a**, then you are doing an excellent job and you can continue alone in your quest to exceed your current level - and move on to achieve far greater supremacy, but you will do that with someone other than me.
In closing, may I say that evidence of the arrogance you display is exceeded only by your attempt at the use of fevered language.
Good luck – Sir - I wish you well.
Sigh ...
I meant that I expected you to answer. I made no comment on what you would answer with. I'm not God, I can't see the future.
"Bully"? Why because you pull your ideas about what islam is out of thin air and I have actually READ about it and I actually know what it's history and dogma and traditional practices are and I object to your ignorant nonsense re: islam?
When you want to discuss things it is adult behavior to actually know FACTS about the subject.
It is not a matter of me being "superior" it is about the actual FACTS vice the absolutely brain dead sheeple delusions about a very great threat to US ALL.
I don't give a rusty F if you are offended by me b!tch slapping you with the TRUTH.
Maybe that will wake you up?
What is truly ARROGANT is talking bullsh!t in a life and death matter and then posing as the wronged and offended party when you get called on it.
Grow F ing up.
I also don't give a rusty F if you don't care for my vocabulary and syntax.
As you search for the reality, may you find strength and solace to comprehend this profound revelation. Let yourself cry knowing each tear is a note of love rising to the heavens above. Learn to lean on your friends for strength and support to avoid unilateral or selective reaction as you continue your burden in life.
You TRYING to lecture me then acting worse than I have has a name.
"Do as I say, NOT as I DO" is called HYPOCRISY.
Keep your attempts to pose as having ANY sort of "moral" superiority aimed at small children and dumb animals, you mealy mouthed hypocrite, they will believe you.
Ignore the insulting tongue. Duck the provoking blow. Run from the assault of the strong. The wild boar runs from the tiger, knowing that each be well-armed by nature with deadly strength, may kill the other. Running, he saves his own life and that of the tiger. This is not cowardice. It is the love of life. -- Master Kahn
"You TRYING to lecture me then acting worse than I have has a name.
"Do as I say, NOT as I DO" is called HYPOCRISY.
Keep your attempts to pose as having ANY sort of "moral" superiority aimed at small children and dumb animals, you mealy mouthed hypocrite, they will believe you."
Truth has been one of the largest topics of discussion for thousands of years.
The problem with truth is that in a way it is not easy to state: what truths are, and what (if anything) makes them true.
But this simple statement masks a great deal of controversy.
There is a metaphysical problem of truth and what kind of theory might address it.
The standing issue in the theory of truth: What makes truth – be true?
If I never lie again, can I be the same me as I was before? -- Alethea Each waking moment is as a rung on an endless ladder. Each step we take is built on what has gone before. -- Caine
LOL! It SO Figures that YOU would paraphrase Pontious pilot, esp in the context of THIS particular "discussion".
It is such a blatant attempt to change the subject in this context.
What does the koran say? What is the actual Arabic text? What does islam teach? What do the imams teach/preach? What is islam's dogma? What is islam's self stated history? What do the actual islamic source documents say?
ALL of the answers to these particular questions are a matter of obvious FACT. They are NOT in any honest dispute, esp. on any "metaphysical" basis.
If you questioned the existence of God, or of al ha ha, you would have a point. But this is a very simple matter.
The TRUTH is that you either don't know a d@mned thing about islam, or you are a liar who has a pro moo slum/islam agenda, and are interested in hiding the TRUTH about islam. I guess that you might just be a mentally limited person also?
But any way that you cut it, all in all, it is a VERY clumsy, and lame attempt, to change the subject.
But you have already shown that you are not an intellectually honest person here.
Mel knocked you side of the head a few times in her attempt to get your pompous , self righteous, blowhard a** to consider what she had to say – you didn’t like the beating and you didn’t understand what she had to say because you did not listen to her.
She got your goat! It is virtually impossible to listen when you are mad.
She did make you prove that you are totally incapable of addressing legitimate questions and concerns.
She nailed that Right On!
She pointed out that you can’t listen with your brain in reverse and your fingers in gear on the keyboard.
She displayed evidence that you are not ready to listen to anyone, because you are far to busy listening to your own mouth while pretending to be and playing like you are Charlemagne of the Internet Crusade. (LOL – Just made that one up – Like it)!
You fail to realize that when one is called to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ it must be through action characterized by humility. To choose to act as a mighty conqueror because you try to rule that way with the strong overcoming the weaker by dominating words lets everything you say go unmurmuring to places men despise.
The idea of strength in humility, of conquering through weakness, is a hidden truth, but it is found in the most obscure and mystical of wisdom through human history. You fail to realize that humility is usually the lot of those who love wisdom.
The lesson to be learned is that the Path of Humility that Jesus walked is not only something he did to make salvation possible, but should serve as a model for growth in Christ-likeness. This is a lesson learned with age.
While you get excited about mastering Mel’s thoughts and trying to overpower her through brute main strength – the end result will only prove that she'll pin you every time.
Yep, ole Delilah Mel sure cut off all of old Mad Dog Samson's hair – How does it feel now, BALDY?
She did make you prove that you are totally incapable of addressing legitimate questions and concerns. She pointed out that you can’t listen...
Isn't that funny? "Legitimate questions"?? HA!
You yourself deliriously defined "terrorism" as what again?? "An extreme form of political expression"?? ROFLMAO!
The case WAS made ad nauseum, but the two of you conveniently and continually deny the truth about Islam while slathering over Turd-Pie with whipped cream.
Pathological Liars usually do so in the face of even overwhelming evidence.
The case WAS made ad nauseum, but the two of you conveniently and continually deny the truth about Islam while slathering over Turd-Pie with whipped cream.
Pathological Liars usually do so in the face of even overwhelming evidence.
Yep.
Their obvious game is to change the subject, since we have the audacity to challenge their invincible ignorance of the realities of islam.
I will be happy to start over, if you will help by again stating the case and the supporting presentations. (Links to the case and support data will do find).
