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Title: Assumption of US dominance in the world has ended, inevitable imperial decline is looming
Source: RT
URL Source: https://www.rt.com/op-edge/398234-us-military-dominance-global/
Published: Aug 2, 2017
Author: Danielle Ryan
Post Date: 2017-08-02 17:33:16 by Hondo68
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Keywords: challenge US power, Eisenhower warned, MIC, the decline of US
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Comments: 51

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#24. To: hondo68 (#0)

Assumption of US dominance in the world has ended, inevitable imperial decline is looming

It's over? Already? Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

BTW, who's taking over world domination?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-03   21:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#24) (Edited)

It's over? Already? Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

BTW, who's taking over world domination?

Islamic jihad. It has shown a remarkable resistance to change over fourteen hundred years and an uncanny abilility to feed off the weakness of other nations.

rlk  posted on  2017-08-03   21:57:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: rlk (#32)

Islamic jihad. It has shown a remarkable resistance to change over Seventeen hudread years and an uncanny abilility to feed off the weakness of other nations.

Muhammed was around in the 7th century. So only around 1400 years.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-03   22:06:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Tooconservative (#33)

It has shown a remarkable resistance to change over fourteen hundred years and an uncanny abilility

It has shown a remarkable resistance to change over Seventeen hudread years and an uncanny abilility

misterwhite  posted on  2017-08-04   9:46:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#34)

Dizzy was a cousin of mine's favorite song, according to her high school yearbook. Not sure why I still remember such a stupid fact.

Anyway, 1400 does not equal 1700. That was my only point.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-04   14:30:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tooconservative (#37) (Edited)

Anyway, 1400 does not equal 1700. That was my only point.

Yes.

Roman Kingdom 753 - 509BC

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Kingdom

compare British royal colonies

509BC Revolution - Republic until ~40BC

212 AD all free people in the Roman International Community / allies get Roman citizenship under Caracalla.

The early Empire (officially still a Republic) until Diocletian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Rome#Early_Empire

Diocletian - official monarchy until St Constantin the Great, "equal to the Apostles",

Christian New Rome from 324 AD until 1453 AD

Under the Justinian the Great:

Until eruption of Islam. monotheistic-Zoroastrian Persia or Iran the main opponent of Rome

A Pole  posted on  2017-08-04   16:23:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A Pole (#40) (Edited)

I do grasp your points.

However, America has never had more than a half-dozen foreign territories to protect and administer, like the Solomons and Marianis and Puerto Rico. And we make huge giveaways to them constantly and offer free citizenship to those who want it and tons of benefits as well. Our territories largely have had home rule and elected their own native governors.

You can't possibly pretend that Rome did anything compabable with the provinces of its empire. The Romans were outright conquerors. At most, we employ heavy economic and military influence, a neocolonial empire. Rome's was, as the British empire was, a colonial empire that conquered and annexed foreign nations from beginning to end.

If America was the new Rome, as you say, we would already have conquered Canada and Mexico and be well on our way to conquering all of Central and South America. But we don't. We certainly have influence but we don't conquer. Why? Well, because we are smarter and more ruthless than the Roman, the British and the Soviet empires.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-08-04   16:31:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Tooconservative (#41)

Names and labels are the surface. Roman citizens would be very offended until Diocletian if you told them that they are under monarchy at least until Caracalla, they believed that they are free citizens of the Republic, the Empire was just a system of alliances with City of Rome, in today parlance - International Community.

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#43. To: A Pole (#42)

You still haven't admitted that America is not an empire in the sense that Rome was an empire or Russia was an empire or the USSR was an empire or that even Britain was an empire.

America throws its weight around too much around the world but it is not an empire. It has fifty states and a half-dozen territories (that suck lots of welfare and social security out of the system and whose citizens can become full American citizens at any time).

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