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Title: Alien Gear Holsters Bashes Police For Shooting Man Who Was Shooting At Them
Source: Blue Lives Matter
URL Source: https://bluelivesmatter.blue/alien-gear-holsters-police-shooting/
Published: Jul 27, 2017
Author: Snarky Cop
Post Date: 2017-07-27 16:15:48 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 6176
Comments: 23

Alien Gear Holsters made a post to their Facebook page Thursday morning which was critical of the officer-involved shooting of Antoquan Watson, suggesting that officers shouldn’t have shot him so many times.

Antoquan Watson was high on PCP when he opened fire on officers during a vehicle pursuit and then exited his vehicle and started shooting at officers.

In the post to Facebook, Alien Gear Holsters said:

“A reasonable and prudent person follows a police officer’s orders; Angry people sometimes show reluctance, but is it ever okay to shoot someone 45 times?”

After getting hammered with criticism for almost 2 hours from pissed-off customers, Alien Gear Holsters deleted their comment and replaced it with a meme with no further comment, as if they are trying to pretend that their previous comment never happened.

The shooting initially occurred in March 2014 after police received a report that Watson had a gun inside of Pleasantville’s La Esconda II Restaurant, according to NJ.com.

According to a waitress at the restaurant, Watson bought two beers and appeared to be drunk and mumbling to himself. When he paid his bill, multiple people called to report seeing him holding his gun in his right hand, pointing it at the ceiling.

Officers responded and attempted to talk to Watson while he was in his vehicle, but he refused to roll down the window.

Watson then took off in his vehicle, leading police on a high-speed pursuit, running red lights and driving up to 85 MPH. He then started firing shots at officers while he fled.

Finally, another vehicle struck Watson’s car after he ran a red light, causing the vehicle to spin out and stall.

Watson then exited his vehicle and opened fire on officers.

Officers returned fire, and were shocked when he appeared unaffected by the bullets. As you watch the video, officers aren’t missing, Watson is just ignoring the bullets that hit him.

The officers assumed that he was wearing body armor, and it appears that at least one officer may have been shooting for his legs.

Once Watson was on the ground, you can see him still moving while he still had the gun in his hand, and officers continued to fire until he stopped lifting the gun.

An autopsy found that Watson was high on PCP.

There were seven officers involved in the shooting, and they hit Watson 45 times out of 69 total rounds fired between all officers involved in the gunfight. That’s less that one magazine of bullets per officer.

Criticizing officers for repeatedly shooting a man who was actively trying to murder them, while on on PCP and unaffected by bullets, shows a complete lack of knowledge of gunfights. That’s not something we would expect from a holster company.

Considering that Alien Gear Holsters is critical of officers who were defending their lives during a gunfight, and the company’s apparent lack of reasonableness, I can think of better holsters to spend my money on.

Let’s spread the word that we expect better from companies who want our business.

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#3. To: misterwhite (#0)

Have to disagree with Alien Gear. Since that clown was an obvious danger to the public, and he opened fire on the officers, he needed to be stopped. Since he was on PCP, that would make it tuff to take him down. That is why he was shot so much.

Knew of a similiar case where some nut on similiar drugs held up a small store. Got stopped on the interstate. Four SP units, and three local city PD units. Perp gets out, still holding pistol. Had a glazed look, did not know where or when he shit last. Everyone hollering for him to drop the gun. His mind was on Mars, then he raised the gun, and he was shot 8 times, with .357 & .38, leg, stomach, shoulder, etc. No heart shot, no head shot. He didn't even flinch. A Trooper ran up behind him, and jerked the pistol out of his hand, then cuffed him. 5 minutes later when the ambulance arrived, he was bleeding like a sieve, but was still standing, staring off into nowhere. I will never forget, the Post Detective Sargent said they should have hit him with a shotgun. Sarge also said if they would have hit him with a .45, it would have put him down. Sarge said he had seen that when he had been in Korea. He said the commies would get their troops hopped up before an attack.

The next pistol I bought was a Colt 1911, with 4 spare mags. When I was at Ft Belvoir, I read the Army's study of the effects of .45 in the Philippines. I thought about that situation, and the old Det Sargent when I read the Army Report.

I laugh when people carry a little .25 auto for personal defense. When you consider how prevalent drug use is, it is foolish to carry some small caliber, or a 1 or 2 shot derringer. Today, if you are attacked, the odds favor that your attacker will be hopped up on something, and will be difficult to stop. Your life, and the life of your loved ones may depend on what you carry, and how well you deploy it !!

I am not one to whitewash cops, but in this case, Alien Gear is wrong. Only criticism I would make, they should have used a shotgun.

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-27   17:47:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#3)

"I laugh when people carry a little .25 auto for personal defense."

I've read many stories where people get a 1911 or Glock 22 for self-defense, then stop carrying it after a month or two because it's heavy and bulky. I'd rather have a .25 auto on me than a 1911 at home.

But if I was a cop with an external holster, I'd carry the largest gun they let me have along with the nastiest ammo I could find.

USMC Rules of Combat #25
Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a ".4."

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-27   19:36:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#7)

I really like the Navy .45 semiauto. Accurate enough by me, with a bullet the size of a garbage can.

If I felt the need to carry a gun, I'd go get one of those.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-27   20:14:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

" Navy .45 semiauto "

I assume you are talking about a 1911, or a 1911A1.

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-27   20:23:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#13)

I assume you are talking about a 1911, or a 1911A1.

Probably. It was whatever we had in the safe on the ship, practiced with, and could take with us flying into combat zones. I liked that gun.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-28   10:59:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

" It was whatever we had in the safe on the ship, practiced with, and could take with us flying into combat zones. I liked that gun. "

Yes, that would most likely have been a 1911, or 1911A1 When the military adopted the .45 auto was issued to all branchess

If you wanted to get one, you would have numerous brands to choose from, with a variety of features, and prices, but all basically the same. You should go to a gun shop or 2, and familiarize yourself with what is available

The one you handled in the Navy ( what years ? ) was most likely well worn. Look around.

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-28   15:04:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Stoner (#17)

he one you handled in the Navy ( what years ? ) was most likely well worn. Look around.

1981-1999

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-28   15:58:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

" he one you handled in the Navy ( what years ? ) was most likely well worn. Look around.

1981-1999 "

Well, the 9mm Beretta M-9was adopted in 1986. You may in fact have handled a 1911, or maybe a M-9. Do a google search for both, or go to a gun shop and look at both. After looking, you should be able to determine which you used. Personally, I would prefer the .45 1911A1, but to each his own. Let me know what you determine .

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-29   11:13:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Stoner (#19)

Looks from the pictures exactly like a 1911A1. They were all black, just like the picture, and had the same shape. Pretty sure that was it. "1911A1" also rings a bell.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-29   11:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#21. To: Vicomte13 (#20)

" Looks from the pictures exactly like a 1911A1. "

At the time you were serving, most, if not all in inventory were horrible worn out, most had been rebuilt a number of times. If you were to try a new model today, you will find them to be much improved, tighter, more accurate, etc.

Like I said, go to a couple of gun shops and look at the number of brands that are available. You will find Colt, Wilson, Les Baer, Sig, Kimber, RIA, Tarus, Ruger, and many others, in a wide variety of prices. Here is a place to start looking https://www.budsgunshop.com

Good luck

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