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The Establishments war on Donald Trump Title: Poll: Americans split 42%-42% on impeaching Trump WASHINGTON — Just six months after his inauguration, Americans already are split down the middle, 42%-42%, over whether President Trump should be removed from office, a new USA TODAY/iMediaEthics Poll finds. While no serious effort is now underway in Congress to impeach Trump, the results underscore how quickly political passions have become inflamed both for and against the outsider candidate who won last year's campaign in a surprise. A third of those surveyed say they would be upset if Trump is impeached; an equal third say they would be upset if he's not. Those findings, designed to measure the intensity of opinion, also show a perfect divide, 34%-34%. "I don't really trust him — all the things he's done while he's in office, all of the lies, the investigation that goes on with him, the things he says to his staff," Vera Peete, 47, of Antioch, Calif., said in a follow-up phone interview. The caregiver from suburban San Francisco, an independent who voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton for president, was among those called in the survey. The online poll of 1,330 adults, taken July 17-19 by SurveyUSA, has a margin of error of 2.8 percentage points. Americans are braced for turmoil ahead. Nearly half, 46%, say Trump isn't likely to complete his first term, for whatever reason. Only about one in four, 27%, express confidence he'll serve all four years of his term. Even one in 10 Republicans doubt he'll finish his tenure. "These results suggest that Trump is probably the most beleaguered first-term president in the country’s history, and certainly in modern history — highly unpopular among the public, with a significant portion clamoring for his impeachment barely six months after his inauguration," says David Moore, a senior fellow at the University of New Hampshire and polling director for iMediaEthics.org, a nonprofit, non-partisan news site. In the poll, 44% approve of the job Trump is doing, 51% disapprove. His opposition is more intense than his support: 38% strongly disapprove of him; 22% strongly approve. Nearly seven in 10 Democrats say Trump should be impeached. So do 36% of independents and, perhaps surprisingly, 15% of Republicans. The findings on impeachment are in the same neighborhood as other recent public polls. A Monmouth University Poll taken this month showed 41% supporting impeachment, 53% opposing it. A Public Policy Polling survey taken last month found 47% supporting impeachment, 43% opposing it. A Politico/Morning Consult Poll in May found a 43%-45% divide. Liberal advocacy groups have been using calls to impeach Trump to raise money, including $25 T-shirts and $15 travel mugs from Democracy for America that declare, "Unfit to serve." This month, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) formally introduced an article of impeachment, accusing the president of obstructing justice when he fired FBI director James Comey in May. Sherman argued that the ousting of Comey, who was leading the investigation into Russia, amounted to the "high crimes and misdemeanors" required in the Constitution for removal from office. In a speech on the House floor in May, Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.) also called for Trump's impeachment. But more senior Democrats haven't joined in. House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi has called instead for creating an outside, independent commission to investigate the Russia allegations. House Republicans, who hold a 46-seat majority, are unlikely to entertain the possibility of removing the president. That said, if Democrats won control of the House in next year's midterm elections, the party's base might press for a debate on the issue, especially depending on what the Russia investigations conclude. Special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional oversight committees are investigating meddling in the 2016 election by Moscow that U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded were designed to help Trump and hurt Clinton. The inquiries are examining whether Trump associates may have colluded with the Russians, an allegation the president strongly denies. Support for impeachment is stronger among younger people than older ones; 51% of those under 35 but just 33% among those 50 and older say Trump should be removed from office. Women are more likely than men to back impeachment, 46% compared with 38%. There is also a racial and ethnic divide. Two-thirds of African-Americans and a majority of Hispanics back impeachment, compared with a third of whites. "I believe in 2018 they will vote enough Democrats and independents in to impeach him," says Jeffrey Hobbs, 49, of Ochlocknee, a town of 605 in southern Georgia. He voted for Republican Mitt Romney in 2012 but didn't cast a ballot in 2016, and now he vows to never vote Republican again because of the GOP's failure to stand up to Trump. Trump denounces the Russia allegations as a "political witch hunt," and his aides and allies argue he is the victim of biased news coverage. "At the end of the day, I think, when those investigations are over, it will be another chapter in Washington scandals incorporated, that we had to have a scandal going on and gin up all this sort of nonsense, so that we could distract the president from his agenda and his people, and run around chasing something that's all about nothing," the new White House communications director, Anthony Scaramucci, said dismissively on CBS' Face the Nation, one of a series of appearances he made on Sunday talk shows. Opponents of other modern presidents have backed impeachment, even when that didn't seem to be a realistic prospect. In 2014, a third of those surveyed by CNN/ORC said Barack Obama should be impeached; 65% said he shouldn't. In 2006, 30% said George W. Bush should be impeached; 69% disagreed. As the Watergate scandal unfolded in 1973 and 1974, the Gallup Poll showed support for impeaching Richard Nixon steadily grew. It rose from 19% in June 1973 to 57% in August 1974, when he resigned in the face of his almost certain removal from office. Bill Clinton is the only modern president to be impeached by the House, though the Senate refused to convict him on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice in connection with the Monica Lewinsky affair. Even as the House was moving to impeach him, though, Gallup found the public opposed to the step by 2-1. No president since Nixon has faced as broad and fervent calls for his ouster as Trump does now, a situation that creates complicated cross-currents for him in politics and governing. House Speaker Paul Ryan last month dismissed a reporter's suggestion that Republicans would be suggesting impeachment if a Democratic president had been accused of the same actions as Trump. "No, I don't think we would, actually," he said. "I don't think that's at all the case." In the new poll, more than one in four, 27%, say Congress already has enough evidence to impeach Trump. Another 30% say there isn't sufficient evidence yet but predict there eventually will be from ongoing investigations. Only about a third of those surveyed, 31%, say there will never be enough evidence to justify removing Trump from office. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 12.
#1. To: All (#0)
I posted this garbage from USA Today for one reason -- to point out that nowhere in this lengthy article does it give ONE reason why Trump should be impeached. I guess the idiot assholes who took the survey thought "I don't trust him" and "I don't like him" are grounds for impeachment.
"This month, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) formally introduced an article of impeachment, accusing the president of obstructing justice when he fired FBI director James Comey in May."
Since when was it decided that Comey, an Obama appointee is entitled to a lifetime job in a new administration to which he's been hostile. How is getting rid of such baggage obstruction of justice? The outstanding obstruction of justice was the failure to criticize Obama and Hillary for their actions in supporting the jihadist conquest of Libya.
Trump has picked up where Obongo and Hillary left off, with his jihad against Syria.
#14. To: hondo68 (#12)
He has no conception of the real world. He just strikes ramdomly, then gives another campaign speech in front of carefully chosen supportive crowds. So far he has not even formed a capable administration. People come and go but are fired after two weeks for failing to succumb to his self conceived magnetic personalty.
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