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Title: Trump says time to ‘let ObamaCare fail’ after health bill stalls
Source: 1776 Coalition
URL Source: http://www.1776coalition.com/featur ... fail-after-health-bill-stalls/
Published: Jul 19, 2017
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2017-07-19 08:01:13 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 1272
Comments: 10

President Trump said Tuesday he’s prepared to “let ObamaCare fail” after the collapse of Senate Republicans’ latest health care bill, indicating he’s willing to move on to tax reform and other issues – and deal with an Affordable Care Act fix down the road.

“I think we’re probably in that position where we’ll just let ObamaCare fail,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “We’re not going to own it. I’m not going to own it. I can tell you the Republicans are not going to own it. We’ll let ObamaCare fail, and then the Democrats are going to come to us.”

He spoke after two more Republican senators came out late Monday against the Senate bill, effectively killing its chances in its current form. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., plans to call a vote on a bill to repeal ObamaCare now and replace it later, but on Tuesday afternoon left the door open to working with Democrats if that fails.


Poster Comment:

The Dumocrats and their anti-American leader O'Dumbo trotted out the most complicated piece of legislation in history. After NOT reading the damned thing they signed into law. Health care, like Education and many other areas of bureaucrat building is NOT the province of this infernal central socialist government.

Let it die and do nothing more.

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

but on Tuesday afternoon left the door open to working with Democrats if that fails.

We can't even get moderate Republicans to support the changes. What will the bill have to look like to get Democrat support?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-19   9:36:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: IbJensen (#0)

It will indeed fail. People will be without health care. They'll get sick and they'll go to the hospital emergency room which, thanks to Reagan's legislation, must treat them irrespective of their ability to pay.

The hospital emergency room will go unpaid and then ultimately be reimbursed by the federal government at some percentage of its outlay. The doctors will write off the rest and take the deduction as a business loss on their income tax, and thus be reimbursed for about half of the difference through their income taxes.

So in the end, the government pays either way.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-19   11:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: IbJensen (#0)

Let it die and do nothing more.

Exactly how does the ACA "die"?

Enrollment is down only slightly from last year, the subsidies are still in place.....

Of course there are insurance providers who are opting not to sell coverage in some areas....

If the ACA is still "the law of the land" at this time next year....it will become THE defining issue of the 2018 mid-terms because of the inaction of the majority party...to make health insurance better and more affordable as promised -

Likewise any action that causes large #'s of Americans to lose coverage or reestablishes preexisting condition exclusion.....

It looks like a no-win for the r's

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Jameson  posted on  2017-07-19   12:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jameson (#3)

The central socialist government doesn't belong in 90% of what they've ventured into!

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2017-07-19   14:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen (#0)

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BorisY  posted on  2017-07-19   15:33:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IbJensen (#4)

The central socialist government doesn't belong in 90% of what they've ventured into!

It will never change.

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

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Jameson  posted on  2017-07-19   15:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IbJensen (#0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHz8ft56lQQ

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-19   19:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jameson, IbJensen (#3)

Exactly how does the ACA "die"?

It goes bankrupt. It runs out of insurance companies, doctors and participants.

CJ Roberts fed it a poison pill. As a penalty under the Commerce Clause (unconstitutional), the individual mandate could be raised to any desired amount to coerce people to buy in. As a tax, under the taxing power (constitutional), as with any tax, it may not be raised to a punitive level to coerce compliance.

Obamacare, as an economic model, has been the walking dead since its inception. Some counties already have ZERO insurance providers on their exchanges.

The Law of the Land, without an insurance provider, and without massive additional funding, fails. Obamacare only really works as a phase-in to single-payer.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-19   19:26:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: nolu chan (#8)

It goes bankrupt. It runs out of insurance companies, doctors and participants.

Obamacare only really works as a phase-in to single-payer.

It is doubtful that The ACA "dies" before the mid-term election....

And your 2nd point is correct - that will be the solution pitched in 2018.

"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.

"Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you." - aka stoned -

Jameson  posted on  2017-07-20   8:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jameson (#9)

It is doubtful that The ACA "dies" before the mid-term election....

If the payments and deductibles continue to skyrocket, and insurers continue to drop out, and Trump refuses to sign any bailouts, it may well go bust before the 2018 elections. It was created as a gateway to single payer. Get 'em hooked, bait and switch.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-21   3:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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