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Title: Why Donald Trump Jr. is Innocent. Period.
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://lawnewz.com/opinion/why-donald-trump-jr-is-innocent-period/
Published: Jul 12, 2017
Author: The Law
Post Date: 2017-07-12 08:46:32 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 7265
Comments: 48

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The Code of Federal Regulations makes the law immunizing Trump Jr.’s actions precisely clear: any foreign national individual may volunteer personal services to a federal candidate or federal political committee without making a contribution. The law provides this volunteer “exemption” as long as the individual performing the service is not compensated by anyone on the campaign. See 11 CFR 100.74. For example, as the Federal Election Commission advises all, “an individual can provide volunteer services to a candidate or party without considering the value of those service a contribution to the candidate or party.” Section 30121 of Title 52 does not apply to voluntary activity or services. The thing “of value” must be actual money, or its transferable equivalent, not a volunteer of services or information. Otherwise, if volunteering information in coordination with a campaign constituted donations, everyone from John Harwood to Chuck Todd (and maybe all of CNN) made millions in donations to the Hillary campaign, as WikiLeaks emails disclosed.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

So says Facebook.

But the argument is that the information purportedly came from the Russian government and was to be passed on to Don Jr. by a Russian government attorney.

Yes, yes, yes. As we now know, that was all bullshit. Nothing came from the Russian government, the lawyer didn't work for the Russian government, and there was no incriminating information to pass on. It was all a ruse.

BUT, according to the emails, Don Jr. didn't know that at the time of the meeting. He was told the information WAS coming from the Russian government and was to be passed on to him by a Russian government attorney, and he went to the meeting believing that.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-12   9:10:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone, redleghunter (#1)

BUT, according to the emails, Don Jr. didn't know that at the time of the meeting. He was told the information WAS coming from the Russian government

No, Trump Jr. was told the information was being leaked by a Russian government official.

Donald Trump Jr. received an email from Rob Goldstone, not a Russian government agent.

Trump Jr. did not go to the meeting, the meeting came to him, 725 5th AVe., 25th floor, brought to the meeting by Rob Goldstone.

The Russian lawyer did not have an entry visa and was granted parole entry into the United States by the Obama Justice Department.

As with a U.S. government lawyer, a Russian government lawyer would not be representing her government on unofficial business.

What is the alleged crime of meeting with a third-party Russian lawyer for the purpose of receiving unspecified alleged official documents allegedly leaked by a Russian government official with whom Trump Jr. had no direct contact whatever?

Nobody claims any documents were passed.

Nobody claims that the Russian lawyer attempted to pass on any documents or information about Hillary Clinton.

Nobody claimed any personal knowledge or possession of documents. The only claimed knowledge of documents is Rob Goldstone alleging that an acquaintance of Trump Jr. had allegedly alleged that his Russian government relative was allegedly desirous of leaking some unspecified official documents to the Trump campaign.

It sounds about as criminal as downloading a document from Wikileaks.

And the documents sound as real as Teo Manti's girlfriend.

It reads more like a sting operation. The lawyer did not have to be in on it. Goldstone could have told her he could get a meeting where she could pitch opposition to the Magnitsky Act. But who had the power to grant the Russian lawyer parole entry into the United States without a visa? Loretta Lynch's Department of Justice.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-07-13   1:29:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan (#10)

"No, Trump Jr. was told the information was being leaked by a Russian government official."

Well, let's see exactly what he was told:

" The Crown prosecutor of Russia ... offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary ... This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump ..."

That's not my definition of a "leak".

"a Russian government lawyer would not be representing her government on unofficial business."

I agree. And as it turns out, she didn't work for the Kremlin. BUT, she was described in the email as a government employee:

"Emin asked that I schedule a meeting with you and The Russian government attorney who is flying over from Moscow for this Thursday."

Meaning that Don Jr. thought she was.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-13   9:43:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#11)

So what is your point. No laws were broke.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-07-13   9:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#12)

So what is your point. No laws were broke.

See my #13.

Personally, I don't see a crime. I can, however, see how this could be twisted to look like an attempted violation of FEC or CFR laws.

Now, if I were Don Jr., I would say that I took the meeting to see what the documents contained. After all, they were supposed to be "official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia". I would say that if the documents showed evidence of violations of FEC or CFR laws, that I would have immediately turned them over to the FBI.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-13   10:09:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#15)

So you think he should make up a cover story. No need just stick to the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-07-13   10:14:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

So you think he should make up a cover story. No need just stick to the truth.

Cover story? The truth?

Do you know something we don 't? Are you the sole owner of "the truth"? How do you know that wasn't the reason he went to the meeting?

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