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Title: Two cops are accused of racially profiling Florida's only black state attorney as they struggle to explain why they pulled her over in awkward video, simply saying 'the windows are really dark'
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Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... da-s-black-state-attorney.html
Published: Jul 12, 2017
Author: Liam Quinn
Post Date: 2017-07-12 07:24:44 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 4218
Comments: 21
Footage has emerged showing two white police officers struggling to explain why they pulled over Florida's only black state attorney. Video posted online by the Orlando Police Department shows two officers approaching the car of State Attorney Aramis Ayala after the pulled her over on June 19 about 8.15pm. One officer was seen standing at the passenger side window, as the other cop – whose bodycamera was recording – approaching the other side. When he reached the window, Ayala is seen in the clip grabbing her license from her wallet and handing it to the cop. Video has emerged of two officers struggling to explain why they pulled over Florida's only black state attorney, Aramis Ayala (pictured) She then informed the cop she was the state attorney, which led to the officer attempting to explain why she had been stopped. 'Thank you, your tag didn't come back, never seen that before, but we're good now. We ran the tag, I've never seen it before with a Florida tag, it didn't come back to anything, so that's the reason for the stop.' Ayala then asked, 'what was the tag run for?' which led to further attempts at explanation from the officer. Footage was posted online by the Orlando Police Department and it shows Ayala in her car The state attorney handed one of the officers her license, leading to an awkward exchange between then Ayala appeared to be getting annoyed with the cops during the stop, which took place on the night of June 19 'Oh we run tags through all the time, whether it's a traffic light and that sort stuff, that's how we figure out if cars are stolen and that sort of thing,' he said, as the attorney could be seen getting noticeably annoyed in her seat. 'Also, the windows are really dark, I don't have a tint measure but that's another reason for the stop.' Ayala then asks for the officers' names, saying: 'Do you guys have cards on you?' 'One second… actually, this isn't my car but I can write my name down,' the cop said, before grabbing a notepad from his pocket. He then writes his name down, as well as his partner's, before ripping the page from his book and handing it to Ayala. 'There you are, have a good day,' he is heard saying, as the attorney drives away.' Eventually, the cop handed Ayala back her license and the attorney was allowed to drive away 
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#1. To: cranky (#0)
She was pulled over because of her tinted windows and the fact that her license plate didn't come back as valid. They cleared the license plate and decided not to give her a ticket for the windows. And she's upset? Give her a reason to be upset. Write the ticket and force her to have her windows brought into compliance. Now you have a reason to be upset, Miss Do-you-know-who-I-am.
Why? Is that supposed to make a difference to law enforcement? Did she expect favoritism by saying that? Sure does look that way to me. So, who's out of line here?
Which he could not measure because he did not have a tint meter and freely admitted had no clue whether or not she could be cited. That sure passes the smell test.
Perhaps she wanted him to know she is familiar with the law and legal proceedings. Or perhaps she only wanted to assure him she was gainfully employed and not a vagrant. Perhaps he inquired. Or any of a dozen other reasons.
Are the cops required to use some Tint-O-Meter to measure your windows before issuing a ticket? A db meter to measure the noise from your radio or muffler? Seems to me they would use their judgement and issue the ticket if they couldn't see the driver. The driver would then have the windows tested or certified by the installer. And, by the way, it they couldn't see the driver they wouldn't know she was black. So set aside any racial motives you think you have.
All of which are certainly a possibility. And the sound of hooves in the distance could be from zebras, too. But, Occam's razor says they're horses AND that she volunteered that information because she wanted them to know who they were dealing with and they'd better toe the line. I know it and you know it.
Unless they could really see through the window.
Oh FFS! You really have a hard-on for tinted windows "violators" don't you? Sie müssen in Übereinstimmung sein! You have no evidence of that. But perhaps, given all the ways this incident could have ended (cop shooting her, cop shooting her dog if available, cop using taser or baton, cop planting evidence of a crime, cop bearing false witness, cop beating a confession out of her, etc), this was actually the best possible use of this badged bureaucrat's time. Heaven forbid he should waste his bureaucraatic time on crimes against people or property when he can pursue a windshield tint violation without a tint meter. Can we at least agree on that?
Which he could not measure because he did not have a tint meter and freely admitted had no clue whether or not she could be cited. whitey believes that cops have super powers that allow them to detect such infractions. Even if someone has used marijuana. ‘The Drug Whisperer’ | Drivers arrested while stone cold sober I certainly don't know. I was simply struck by the implications of his offhand remark.
About 1t years ago I got pulled over for tinted windows while pulling a boat. They gave me a ticket. I had to remove the tint or have it tested. I removed it. It was my father in laws truck that I ended up owning. It came tinted when I got it.
I brought a truck tagged in fl into ca back in the eighties. They wouldn't let me register it until the windshield met their specs. The only thing that saved me from a ticket was the vehicle was brought into the state on a trailer and its tires never touched a ca roadway. Sometimes, i get lucky.
This is why I said that cops should charge people and not give them a pass. Give them a pass and suddenly it's, "They bees harassin' me. See? I din't do nuffin'. Racial profilin'. They gots no proof. Give her the ticket and let her prove that in a court of law and put an end to this speculation.
No. I have disdain for people who, after given a pass, seem to think that means they didn't do anything wrong and were merely being harassed by the authorities. Because of that, I say no more passes. Book 'em, Danno!
Nope. Many criminals are caught because of minor traffic violations. The cop is actually making the streets safer. But you would limit them to responding and taking notes on crimes against people or property. Yeah. That's real helpful.
That happens a lot, especially with these do-it-yourself kits. It's a safety issue, especially for a cop walking up to a car without knowing what's going on behind the glass.
The really ironically tragic part is you believe this was the absolute best use of this badged bureaucrat's time and I believe it was the absolutely the best use of this badged bureaucrat's time and yet we still can't seem to find any common ground. Oh, well. Such is life.
The sarcasm was dripping off your statement and I took it as such. We don't agree. And I never said it was the "best use" of his time. I said he took more real criminals off the streets with Mickey Mouse traffic stops than he ever would responding to cat-in-a-tree calls.
Not even for different reasons?
Name twenty-five. that's my story and i'm sticking to it
#2. To: cranky (#0)
She then informed the cop she was the state attorney,
#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
She was pulled over because of her tinted windows
#4. To: misterwhite (#2)
Why?
#5. To: cranky (#3)
Which he could not measure because he did not have a tint meter and freely admitted had no clue whether or not she could be cited.
#6. To: cranky (#4)
Perhaps she wanted him to know she is familiar with the law and legal proceedings. Or any of a dozen other reasons.
#7. To: misterwhite (#5)
#8. To: misterwhite (#1)
...force her to have her windows brought into compliance.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#9. To: misterwhite (#6)
I know it and you know it.
#10. To: cranky (#3)
She was pulled over because of her tinted windows
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.
#11. To: misterwhite (#5)
Are the cops required to use some Tint-O-Meter to measure your windows before issuing a ticket?
#12. To: cranky (#11)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)
(Edited)
They gave me a ticket.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#7)
Unless they could really see through the window.
#15. To: Deckard (#8)
Oh FFS! You really have a hard-on for tinted windows "violators" don't you?
#16. To: cranky (#9)
Heaven forbid he should waste his bureaucraatic time on crimes against people or property when he can pursue a windshield tint violation without a tint meter. Can we at least agree on that?
#17. To: A K A Stone (#12)
About 1t years ago I got pulled over for tinted windows
#18. To: misterwhite (#16)
The cop is actually making the streets safer.
#19. To: cranky (#18)
(Edited)
I believe it was the absolutely the best use of this badged bureaucrat's time
#20. To: misterwhite (#19)
We don't agree.
#21. To: misterwhite (#16)
Many criminals are caught because of minor traffic violations.
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