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Title: Vatican cops bust drug-fueled gay orgy at home of cardinal’s aide
Source: New York Post
URL Source: http://nypost.com/2017/07/05/vatica ... y-orgy-at-cardinals-apartment/
Published: Jul 5, 2017
Author: Tamar Lapin
Post Date: 2017-07-05 22:24:32 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 7142
Comments: 35

Vatican police raided a drug-fueled gay-sex party at an apartment belonging to an aide of one of Pope Francis’ key advisers, according to a new report.

The Holy Father is “enraged,” since the home, inhabited by Francesco Cardinal Coccopalmerio’s secretary, belongs to the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith — the arm charged with tackling clerical sex abuse, the Italian paper Il Fatto Quotidiano reported.

Cops raided the apartment in late June after neighbors voiced concern about multiple people acting strangely while streaming in and out of the residence, the newspaper reported Wednesday.

Once police were inside the apartment, they said they found multiple men engaged in rampant drug use and homosexual activity.

They then arrested the priest — an aide to one of Pope Francis’ key advisers — after taking him to a clinic to detox from the drugs he’d ingested.

The unnamed aide is now on a spiritual retreat in a convent in Italy, the paper said.

The aide’s apartment building is the same place where Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger lived for about 25 years before becoming Pope Benedict XVI.

Fatto Quotidiano described the building as “a perfect location to enjoy the extraterritorial rights [of the Vatican] without having to undergo neither the checks of the Italian State nor those of the Vatican City.”

Pope Francis “has decided to accelerate the retirement” of Coccopalmerio, who serves as president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts, the paper said.

Coccopalmerio had recommended the secretary for a promotion to bishop — but his prospects aren’t looking good following this incident and two previous alleged drug overdoses, according to an International Business Times report.

“He had proposed his secretary to the episcopate. Fortune that they have not appointed him bishop. Now what would happen?” Il Fatto Quotidiano said. “Someone stopped this appointment before it was too late.”

The scandal comes just a week after the Vatican was rocked by sex-abuse allegations against high-ranking church official George Cardinal Pell.

Pell was charged with multiple counts of historical sexual assault offenses by Australian police.

The cardinal, who served as Pope Francis’ chief financial adviser and is Australia’s most senior Catholic, is the highest-ranking Vatican official ever to be charged in the church’s sexual- abuse scandals.


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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Well, this is pretty disgusting!

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-06   6:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Vatican police raided a drug-fueled gay-sex party

Is there any other kind?

Keep repeating to yourself: "Gays are just like us".

misterwhite  posted on  2017-07-06   9:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

" Well, this is pretty disgusting! "

Well, I would say that is definitely an understatement !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-06   9:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Vatican police raided a drug-fueled gay-sex party at an apartment belonging to an aide of one of Pope Francis’ key advisers, according to a new report.

My hat is off to the Vatican police for having the stones and the will to do this.

Although I do still suspect that the Vatican cop that gave the go-ahead for the raid will end up paying a price for his devotion to duty.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-07-06   10:34:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#2)

Keep repeating to yourself: "Gays are just like us".

What with this "us" stuff,bubba?

It is true that heterosexuals also have sex parties. I'm almost positive you have heard rumors about them,even though you have never been invited.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-07-06   10:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Stoner (#3)

Well, I would say that is definitely an understatement !!!

Chyea! Ick.

Just ick.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-06   11:09:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#4)

My hat is off to the Vatican police for having the stones and the will to do this.

I would guess that rival cardinal(s) or Pope Frank himself was behind this little raid.

There will be some housecleaning at the Vatican. Not that they care much about drug orgies by low-level clerics or their boy-brothel that has existed for centuries in this same area of town. They just want some inconvenient members of the hierarchy out of the way.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-06   11:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Anthem, TooConservative, Liberator (#0)

The unnamed aide is now on a spiritual retreat in a convent in Italy, the paper said.

I guess since this was a gay orgy the aide in question is deemed safe around a bunch of cloistered nuns?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-06   13:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The Catholic Boat

I'm sure glad that was only seconds long.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-06   13:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#7)

Not that they care much about drug orgies by low-level clerics

Not so low level. The Cardinal wanted Frank to promote him to bishop.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-06   13:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#8)

No one is safe around a bunch of cloistered nuns.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-06   14:52:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#9)

The Catholic Boat

It was the opening for Red Hot Catholic Love, a classic South Park episode.

It ranks up there with their musical Mormon history episode (dum-dum-dum-dumbdumb).

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-06   14:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete (#5)

" sex parties. I'm almost positive you have heard rumors about them,even though you have never been invited. "

ROFLMAO !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-07-06   15:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#10) (Edited)

Keep this in perspective. The Church is a human institution embodying all that is human -- greatness and folly. It is an inseparable element of Western Civilization. When the Roman Empire rotted from within it was the Church that carried literacy to the unlettered Germanic tribes of Europe. In modern times it has been a great sea anchor against the tide of a resurgent Sodom and Gomorrah.

I am a subsidiaritist, but also recognize that there is a need for some central organization to form a structure of communication and adjudication for the distributed subsidiaries, which in turn check the power of the central administration. The effects of this process will reveal human foibles, as it must to remain viable for its mission. A foible is not just an idiosyncrasy, it is also defined as the weaker part of the sword's blade.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-06   15:12:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Anthem (#11)

No one is safe around a bunch of cloistered nuns.

Good point. Even the ones who were not holed up in convent were pretty brutal. Catholic school and all here to tell ya. Good teachers though. Eyes in the back of their heads and they pegged me early on as a 'charming manipulator.' :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-06   16:19:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#12)

It ranks up there with their musical Mormon history episode (dum-dum-dum-dumbdumb).

That's my all time fav. I posted that over on a Mormon thread at FR a few years ago or was it last year. Never got removed because the RM at FR does not believe Mormons are a ghetto protected class over there. Got a lot of mileage out of that video. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-06   16:21:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#16) (Edited)

Never got removed because the RM at FR does not believe Mormons are a ghetto protected class over there.

At one time, RimJob was pro-Mitt so he was anti-anti-Mormon for a while. As long as it was convenient, that is. Before the Mittster locked up the nomination, RimJob got very anti-Mormon, banishing them left and right.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-06   17:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: redleghunter, Anthem, TooConservative, Vicomte13, ALL RCCs (#8)

I guess since this was a gay orgy the aide in question is deemed safe around a bunch of cloistered nuns?

THAT is the "reassuring" part of the insanity that is The Vatican. Still and all, the RCC has STILL never issued any stinging official rebuke and jettisoned queers withing their ranks. Primarily because 90% of their "ranks" would disappear overnight.

I am SICK of Frankie, the fraud of his Papal "bonafides"; the whole charade of the Vatican and "His Holiness" -- when there is NOTHING "holy" about this son of the Devil, his predecessor, OR, the Vatican itself -- Ground Zero HQ for industrial-grade secrecy and satanic evil. *I* believe THE anti-Christ will emerge out of the Vatican (FWIW). Frankie is laying the groundwork to co-opt Muzzies and other cults into the fold.

The Vatican hierarchy is TEEMING with perves, pedophiles, and pro-LGBTQ miitants and supporters (YUGE surprise there, right?) All of which is still NOT yet enough nastiness for Roman Catholics who faithfully sit in their pews, drop their hard-earned wealth into parish baskets, and utter Act of Contrition, Hail Mary, etc. to disown the RCC.

Local parishes look especially to the Pope for outstanding moral leadership, emulating Christ teachings (for instance, His Sermon on the Mount), and Good News, aka, Gospel.

INSTEAD? They get the bad cop, the bad uncle, the abusive father, the drunken, lying husband who betrays them...and LAIGHS in their face the whole time!

NOT discussed: The degree of exactly how un-Holy the Vatican is. And frankly, has been the case for centuries.

NOT discussed: Actual satanic ceremonies performed within the bowels of the Vatican basement and walls -- DOCUMENTED (but ignored, dismissed, and blown off. The Vatican can well afford to control all dissemination of being exposed to THAT kind of news and habitual unfathomable sin that are being conducted -- ALL with the Vatican's "blessing." Past Pope are NOT exempt from criticism for the same policies.

Back to the Fraud-Frankie and this current subverted Vatican machination -- they are now working triple-time in operating as a New World Order/Secular Humanistic termite-within, touting Islam and obviously setting up One World ecumenism, along with the New World Order.

From weighing in on publicly supporting fake-science's "Global Warming" tax scheme, criticizing Capitalism (as the Vatican owns untold hundreds of billions in world real estate, art, Gold, stocks); From publicly criticizing President Trump, security walls (as the Vatican is walled); Using the RCC to smuggling in millions of ILLEGAL Mexican/South America THIEVES; Criticizing personal & national sovereignty, publicly SUPPORTING Chavez and the Castro bros (instead of rebuking them)...

And of course, undermining nearly EVERYTHING Jesus Christ and the Apostles taught -- while dismissing scriptural authority, replacing it with its own "Gospel" -- on just WHAT count is Pope Frankie fulfilling Christ's command, "Go and preach the Gospel to all who hunger"?? By NOT doing so, Pope Frankie (as well as past Popes have CONDEMNED hundreds of millions to Hades and worst.

Q: HOW does a "good Catholic" remain faithful to this counterfeit cult which has hijacked Christ's CHURCH, the Gospel, AND the Word?

Had you guys seen THIS scathing rebuke of Pope Frankie:?

Robert Spencer: Pope Francis, Defender of Islam

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/07/robert-spencer-pope-francis-defender-of-islam

Pope Francis received a noteworthy honor last week when Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Grand Imam of Cairo’s al-Azhar, thanked him for his “defense of Islam against the accusation of violence and terrorism"...

....The Pope of Rome, whom Catholics consider to be the earthly head of the Church, should be a defender of Christianity, not a defender of Islam, the religion that has been at war with Christianity and Judeo-Christian.

Francis is not just a defender of Islam, but a defender of the Sharia death penalty for blasphemy: after Islamic jihadists murdered the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists who had drawn Muhammad, Francis obliquely justified the murders by saying that “it is true that you must not react violently, but although we are good friends if [an aide] says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch, it’s normal. You can’t make a toy out of the religions of others. These people provoke and then (something can happen). In freedom of expression there are limits.”

Muzzies are lopping off Christian heads, tossing them into dough machines, torturing and maiming them, and of course raping and murdering them. And HERE is the so-called "Vicar of Christ" KISSING the arse of Imams, endorsing their Islamic barbarity, and justifying murder. HOW is this guy ANY thing BUT anti-Christ in every way possible??

Q: IS Frankie is a Blasphemer?

Jesus Christ: “I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29

Frankie mocks the Holy Spirit and in meeting/endorsing the Imam and Islam, he calls Good Evil, and Evil, Good. By supporting Allah and reversing Good for Evil, IMO he IS a Blasphemer. Frankie represented NOT Christ and the Holy Spirit, but instead, Allah and Satan's own Death Cult. Jesus says, "Love your neighbor"; Allah says, KILL your neighbor/Infidel." Frankie: "meh".

And yet, hundreds of millions of RCC's yawn over Frankie's mockery of ALL things holy and good.

Pope Frankie: GUILTY or NOT Guilty of the following?:

SEVEN THINGS GOD HATES:

Proverbs 6:16-19 King James Version (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

1) A proud look

2) A lying tongue

3) Hands that shed innocent blood (by defending and supporting the Death Cult of Islam)

4) An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations

5) Feet that be swift in running to mischief,

6) A false witness that speaketh lies

7) He that soweth discord among brethren.

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-12   14:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#18)

Q: HOW does a "good Catholic" remain faithful to this counterfeit cult which has hijacked Christ's CHURCH, the Gospel, AND the Word?

What's the alternative? YOUR brand of "religious" idiocy?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-12   14:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator (#18)

I think you need to re-read John 7 and 8, because you are repeating Jewish lies.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-12   14:49:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, redleghunter (#7)

I would guess that rival cardinal(s) or Pope Frank himself was behind this little raid.

The ONLY thing Frankie is "behind" is a collared train of co-perves. NO way was Frankie involved in this take down....THIS guy would have joined Roehm and Goering for Cocaine-fueled homo/pedo orgies back in the day.

I'd speculate that the whistle was blown by a few honorable RCC folks close enough to the perved-out insanity who are tired of this activity taking place with absolute impunity. Perhaps simply a case of having finally HAD IT with the In-Your-Face shenanigans. How unsettling it must be to hear the screams of little boys or howls of men...in a supposed "Holy Place."

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-12   16:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator, Vicomte13 (#18)

THAT is the "reassuring" part of the insanity that is The Vatican. Still and all, the RCC has STILL never issued any stinging official rebuke and jettisoned queers withing their ranks. Primarily because 90% of their "ranks" would disappear overnight.

As a historian as most of us are here...Full disclosure shows there was a Pope who purged homosexuals from the Catholic priesthood. Many Catholics are looking to his example:

Here’s how one saintly pope would clean up gay orgies at the Vatican

Top Vatican official: Gay sex in Vatican ‘never been worse’ than under Francis

These are conservative Catholic views from Life Site News.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-12   16:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Liberator (#21)

NO way was Frankie involved in this take down...

He may have used this gay bishop-wannabe and his orgy to discredit his sponsor, a cardinal, so the cardinal gets forced out and Frank can replace a conservative with a Frankster.

I'd speculate that the whistle was blown by a few honorable RCC folks close enough to the perved-out insanity who are tired of this activity taking place with absolute impunity.

You think the orgy crowd is inviting the conservatives to their little sodomy party?

C'mon, you know better. The hierarchy has been thoroughly rotten for centuries. Rome doesn't like whistleblowers, never did. Otherwise there would be no Protestants.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-12   16:41:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Anthem (#20)

because you are repeating Jewish lies.

Which ones from John 7-8?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-12   16:45:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vicomte13 (#19)

Vic -- can you honestly defend Frankie and the RCC's charade of masquerading as Christ's earthy reps, and his recent defense of Islam's Sharia revenge, or can't you?

The "Alternative"?? How about speaking Truth To Power? Islam = Death Cult. Islam murders Christians. Islam murders the innocent. Frankie supports the Imam, Islam's retributive revenge, spilt blood, and Koranical hatred and conversion BY THE SWORD. THE "Alternative"? How about SPREADING THE GOSPEL and demanding the Imam instruct his flock NOT to murder in the Name of Allah at the expense of Christian blood and ANY blood?

MORE "Truth-To-Power: Frankie is DEFENDING A DEATH CULT: Islam. And all the hate, blood, and usurping of innocent flesh, spirits, and souls that go with it.

There is NO justification for defending/apologizing for the so-called "Vicar of Christ" as he covers the satanic behind the Cross and lies to the world (as well as RCCs) on behalf of the Imam and the Koran.

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-12   16:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Anthem (#20)

I think you need to re-read John 7 and 8, because you are repeating Jewish lies.

Why don't you just reveal what you deem "Jewish lies," and then we can discuss the issue?

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-12   16:50:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#23)

Rome doesn't like whistleblowers, never did. Otherwise there would be no Protestants.

That is True.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-12   16:51:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Liberator (#25)

It is true: I am disgusted with organized Christianity. All of it. The demoninations are much like Republicans and Democrats - lying shitstains focused on money or wrongheaded fanatics hellbent on evil (like Muslims).

I'm not going to defend the indefensible.

The alternative is to do what I already do: simply refuse to sign onto, or agree with, or cooperate with, anything that I don't agree with.

This usually leaves me alone. Which is ok. I'm an only child. I've always rather liked being alone. I prefer to be in the close company of people I like, but I'd rather be alone than be with jerks. If I were ever imprisoned, I would ask to be placed in solitary confinement for my entire sentence. Happier that way.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-12   16:56:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: redleghunter (#22)

As a historian as most of us are here...Full disclosure shows there was a Pope who purged homosexuals from the Catholic priesthood. Many Catholics are looking to his example...

Sure...there *was* a Pope here and there trying to clean up the mess, but like Trump and his Mission: Impossible to disinfected decades of established corruption and evil, the resident evil permeating the Vatican would have been nearly impossible to root out and disinfect.

Red, which Pope were you referring to who tried purging the infestation?

Good Catholics are delusional if they believe the extent of Evil within the Vatican machination can EVER be disinfected...

In the meantime, their current "leader" mirrors 0bama in so many ways -- except that 0bama wasn't a so-called Vicar of Christ.

Top Vatican official: Gay sex in Vatican ‘never been worse’ than under Francis

Not surprising, is it? After all,Frankie is a Commie, pro-Muslim, pro-Queer, anti-Capitalist, a hypocrite extraordinaire, an arrogant, pompous phony, and pure anarchist-on-steroids. JUST LIKE 0BAMA!

As in most organizations, the leader sets the tone for others. Frankie has encouraged anarchy...he was "elected" behind corrupt closed doors as his predecessor was ousted in what can only be described as a coup.

Encouraged to befoul the Vatican and its machination evermore, the plan to promote anarchy and sabotage the best of RCC from within was implemented. Like 0bama and what HE accomplished within DC and the bowels of the WH, Frankie's mission (and his minion) is to jackhammer whatever foundation of "Christianity" is left standing.

These are conservative Catholic views from Life Site News.

I feel for sincere RCCs for whom the Gospel is what it's all about. THAT said, at SOME point, they'll require a von Stauffenburg or the biggest mass Exorcism in history.

Liberator  posted on  2017-07-12   17:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Liberator (#29)

Good Catholics are delusional if they believe the extent of Evil within the Vatican machination can EVER be disinfected...

Ok, Liberator - clearly you do not think my religion is salvageable. That's fine.

What is your religion? You believe in it, so presumably I should be leaving the corrupt, Resident Evil Roman Catholic Church and joining your religion instead. So what is it?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-12   17:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Liberator, Vicomte13, redleghunter (#29) (Edited)

A reminder from LifeSite of Rome's past stances against sodomy, particularly among the clergy. It is a misconception that this is a uniquely modern problem. Far from it. The records show clerical debauchery that has waxed and waned over many centuries.

Here’s how one saintly pope would clean up gay orgies at the Vatican

July 11, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) -- The Vatican under Pope Francis has been completely silent after news recently broke of a high-ranking monsignor who was arrested some two months ago in the act of hosting a cocaine-fueled homosexual orgy in a building right next to St. Peter’s Basilica. 

But silence in the face of blatant sexual deviancy, especially among the clergy, has never been the practice of some of the Church’s greatest leaders, including Doctors of the Church and one saintly pope. 

During the height of the Renaissance, homosexuality among the clergy was no small problem. Pope Pius V, who was later canonized, directly combatted what he called the “horrible crime” of homosexual practices among the clergy by setting down strict directives. 

“That horrible crime, on account of which corrupt and obscene cities were destroyed by fire through divine condemnation, causes us most bitter sorrow and shocks our mind, impelling us to repress such a crime with the greatest possible zeal,” he wrote in his 1568 Apostolic Constitution Horrendum illud scelus. 

It is interesting to note that Saint Pius V never shrunk from the duty of his high office with statements such as “who am I to judge.” Rather, he combatted homosexuality “with the greatest possible zeal.”

Pius V decreed that not only were active homosexual clergy to be removed from the “clerical order,” but they were to be handed over to the “secular authority” for punishment. 

“Therefore, wishing to pursue with greater rigor than we have exerted since the beginning of our pontificate, we establish that any priest or member of the clergy, either secular or regular, who commits such an execrable crime, by force of the present law be deprived of every clerical privilege, of every post, dignity and ecclesiastical benefit, and having been degraded by an ecclesiastical judge, let him be immediately delivered to the secular authority to be put to death, as mandated by law as the fitting punishment for laymen who have sunk into this abyss,” he wrote. 

Going back to the writings of St. Paul and even further to the Old Testament, the Church has a long history of speaking out against homosexuality. 

St. Paul warns the Romans (1:26-27) that when men chose to worship and serve the creature over the Creator, God gave them up to the “lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves.

“Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error,” he wrote. 

Elsewhere St. Paul warns that “homosexuals” among other sinners will “not inherit the kingdom of God” unless they become “washed…sanctified…justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Two saints, both doctors of the Church, who spoke out forcefully against homosexuality within the clergy are Saint Peter Damian, an 11th-century Italian Catholic reformer and Saint Catherine of Siena, a 14th-century religious mystic. 

St. Peter Damian wrote his Book of Gomorrah to Pope Leo IX in 1049 at a time when homosexuality and sexual perversion within the clergy were likely more rampant than it is today. Damien showed no false mercy or compromise in condemning sodomy, what he believed to be the gravest of all sins.

“If this absolutely ignominious and abominable vice is not immediately stopped with an iron fist, ” he told the Pope, “the sword of Divine wrath will fall upon us, bringing ruin to many.”

Damian warned the Pope that the “cancer of sodomitic impurity is creeping through the clerical order,” decrying the sexual abuse of “spiritual sons” by Catholic priests. He warned that all clergy who are habituated to homosexual behavior should be removed from the priesthood, and that the wrath of God is provoked against those who continue to offer the sacrifice of the Mass while committing homosexual sins.

According to Damian, the evil of homosexual behavior “surpasses the savagery of all other vices,” and “is to be compared to no other. For this vice is the death of bodies, the destruction of souls, pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the intellect, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, introduces the diabolical inciter of lust, throws into confusion, and removes the truth completely from the deceived mind.”

He notes that “whoever has soiled himself with the contamination of sodomitic disgrace ... unless he is cleansed by the fulfillment of fruitful penance, can never have the grace of God, will never be worthy of the body and blood of Christ, and will never cross the threshold of the celestial homeland.”

To priests engaging in homosexual activities, he warns: “Beware of inextinguishably inflaming the fury of God against you, lest by your prayers you more sharply provoke Him whom you patently offend by your evil acts.”

Damian expressed profound sorrow for those priests who had fallen into sexual perversion. He promised them that they could be liberated from their enslavement to sin by God and restored spiritually if they repent and do penance.

St. Catherine of Siena said in her famous Dialogues — written as if dictated by God — that priests who commit homosexuals sins appear before God as those filled with “stench and misery.” 

Such priests, the Lord told Catherine, not only offend by failing to resist their fallen nature, “but do worse, committing that accursed sin against nature [homosexual acts].”

“Like the blind and stupid having dimmed the light of the understanding, they do not recognize the stench and misery in which they find themselves,” she wrote.

Continued the Lord to Catherine: “It is not only that this sin stinks before me, who am the Supreme and Eternal Truth, it does indeed displease me so much and I hold it in such abomination that for it alone I buried five cities by a divine judgment, my divine justice being no longer able to endure it.”

Homosexual sin is traditionally one of the four sins that cry to heaven for vengeance. 

The Lord told Catherine that even the demons are repulsed by this sin. 

“This sin not only displeases me as I have said, but also the devils whom these wretches have made their masters. Not that the evil displeases them because they like anything good, but because their nature was originally angelic, and their angelic nature causes them to loathe the sight of the actual commission of this enormous sin,” she wrote. 

St. Catherine recounted the Lord saying that prayers and tears are the remedies for such sins among the clergy. 

“Never cease offering me the incense of fragrant prayers for the salvation of souls, for I want to be merciful to the world. With your prayers and sweat and tears, I will wash the face of my bride, Holy Church. I showed her to you earlier as a maiden whose face was all dirtied as if she were a leper. The clergy and the whole of Christianity are to blame for this because of their sins, though they receive their nourishment at the breast of this bride.” . . .

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-07-12   18:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

If I were ever imprisoned, I would ask to be placed in solitary confinement for my entire sentence. Happier that way

You mean you would not like being in the "general population" of prison where gregarious folks like me would be. :)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-13   0:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Liberator (#29)

The article I linked named Pious V.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-07-13   0:04:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: redleghunter (#32)

You mean you would not like being in the "general population" of prison where gregarious folks like me would be. :)

That's certainly part of it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-07-13   7:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Liberator (#26)

Why don't you just reveal what you deem "Jewish lies," and then we can discuss the issue?

This would require a book. However, I am working on an essay to which I will flag you when I post it. I am on a deadline right now, so please bear with me for a few days.

Anthem  posted on  2017-07-13   16:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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