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Title: The A-10 Warthog Lives
Source: Weekly Standard
URL Source: http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-a-10-warthog-lives/article/2008661
Published: Jun 28, 2017
Author: Benjamin Parker
Post Date: 2017-06-28 15:13:02 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 3216
Comments: 14

On Monday, the House Armed Services Committee released a draft of the 2018 National Defense Authorization Act. It included $103 million to keep the second-most controversial plane in the Air Force’s fleet, the A-10, flying.

Senior brass in the Air Force have been trying to retire the A-10 Thunderbolt II, commonly called the “Warthog” for its less-than-comely appearance, for years. Faced with tough budget constraints, the Air Force has tried to prioritize its core missions, including a long-term search for a new strategic bomber dubbed the “Long Range Strike Bomber Program.”

The other priority for the Air Force has been the most expensive weapons system in history, the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. The futuristic, stealthy jet comes in Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps variants. Theoriginaldesign was elegant and efficient: One platform, with minor differences between variants, could replace the Navy’s F-18 carrier-based fighters, the Marine Corps’ Harrier “jump jets,” and a number of Air Force aircraft, including the A-10.

The minor differences grew over the course of the program, until the three variants were more dissimilar than similar, sharing only about a quarter of their parts. As the designs diverged, the costs mounted, topping $1.5 trillion. Critics, of whom there are many, called the program “too big to fail”—no one wanted to consider ending the program after so much taxpayer money had been dumped into it, and no one wanted to take responsibility for the program going sideways.

The A-10, on the other hand, was small and old enough to retire. As the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan died down during the Obama administration, the Air Force saw an opportunity to move away from close-air support, the singular job of the A-10.

The Warthog was designed after the Vietnam war, when the Air Force realized that it lacked an airframe that could provide battlefield protection for ground forces, especially against entrenched or armored enemies. The airplane Fairchild Republic built to meet that need is, essentially, a flying machine-gun nest. The key features of the plane’s design are its giant, center-mounted cannon built to shred Soviet armor with 3,900 30mm depleted-uranium rounds a minute. Just behind the cannon, ensconced in a protective armor tub, sits the pilot. Behind him, straight wings capable of carrying myriad bombs and missiles, two jet engines—and not much else.

The A-10 has seen action in Kuwait, Iraq (twice), the Balkans, Afghanistan, Libya, and most recently against ISIS. When the planes were redeployed back to the Middle East in October of 2015, the clamor for their retirement subsided somewhat.

Most of the plane’s protectors, however, have been on Capitol Hill. Congress has consistently authorized and appropriated money for programs to extend the Warthog’s service life, including Monday's authorization for a wing replacement program. GOP Rep. Martha McSally, who once flew A-10s, has been a critical proponent of the Warthogs. When the Air Force suggested retiring three of the nine active squadrons, she balked, insisting, “From my view and my experience, if we need that capability until a proven, tested replacement comes along, nine squadrons is the absolute minimum.”

The Pentagon quietly succumbed to congressional pressure in its 2017 budget request, “indefinitely freezing” the aircraft’s retirement.

The first F-35s have just been declared “combat ready,” but unlike the slower, uglier, older Warthogs, they’re not yet combat tested. Until they are, Congress is likely to continue its belt-and-suspenders approach, and the Warthogs will keep flying.


Poster Comment:

Maybe it costs too much to keep flying, maybe it isn't as effective as some other weapon systems. Maybe.

But the Warthog is great if you want to fuck shit up. You can see why it is so feared. A very intimidating aircraft.

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

The F35 will never be able to adequately replace the A10, not the right weaponry or adequate armor to protect the pilot or critical avionics. Have heard the rumor that some folks are thinking about upgrading and reopening the A10 manufacturing line, would be cheaper and better than trying to use/modify the F35 tinker toy.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2017-06-28   15:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: CZ82 (#1)

The F35 will never be able to adequately replace the A10, not the right weaponry or adequate armor to protect the pilot or critical avionics.

They really are very different aircraft with their own mission profiles.

Have heard the rumor that some folks are thinking about upgrading and reopening the A10 manufacturing line, would be cheaper and better than trying to use/modify the F35 tinker toy.

Well, a lot of our A10s are grounded because they have been scavenged for parts, or so the reporting over the last year indicates. Seems like a deliberate policy by 0bamaCo to ground the Warthog.

And yet the A10 still has a lot of big fans in Congress. For reasons obvious enough when you look at the videos of it tearing up our enemies.

The A10 is a lot of bang for the buck in our current mission profiles in Syria/Iraq when compared to the ultra-expensive F35 with its long-range standoff weapon systems.

The A10 is up close and personal, a well-known asset. The F35 is a distant killing machine and very pricey stuff all around.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-28   16:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

And it's very quiet can't hear it coming until you're staring down the barrel of the GAU, by then it's too late to do anything other than kiss your ass goodbye...

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2017-06-28   16:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#3)

Yeah, it's quiet. Until they use the cannon. Then a lot less quiet. LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-28   17:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#0)

A couple friends that did two tours in Afganistan told me that when you need CAS, that the Warthog was the most beautiful bird of all !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-06-28   23:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Tooconservative, CZ82 (#4)

Yeah, it's quiet. Until they use the cannon. Then a lot less quiet. LOL

Burrrrrp!

nolu chan  posted on  2017-06-29   3:49:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Stoner (#5)

A couple friends that did two tours in Afganistan told me that when you need CAS, that the Warthog was the most beautiful bird of all !!

I think it is a beloved aircraft for our ground troops. The A10 makes any day brighter and happier for American infantry.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-29   6:39:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nolu chan, Stoner (#6)

Burrrrrp!

I always thought it made kind of a farty sound.

You have this heavy how-does-it-even-get-off-the-ground armored plane that flies along rather silently. Then you see the puffs of smoke just ahead of its nose. Then the farty sound arrives and then you see the target turned to mince meat.

What's not to love if you're American infantry?

Like the B-52, the A10 may be an old plane but it's still a good plane.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-29   6:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Tooconservative (#8)

" Like the B-52, the A10 may be an old plane but it's still a good plane. "

A very good plane. It needs to remain in inventory. It needs to be put back into production, to build new ones, and parts to repair existing models.

Any idiots that push to retire it, should be retired.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-06-29   8:27:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner (#9)

What I like most is how it puts the fear of God into these jihadis.

They panic at the approach of a Warthog. As they should.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-29   8:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Stoner (#9)

The biggest issue I see with keeping in the inventory what is currently flying is the amount of hours on those airframes, they can handle only so many before they become a liability/hazard to fly.

Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!

CZ82  posted on  2017-06-29   10:49:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: CZ82 (#11)

" The biggest issue I see with keeping in the inventory what is currently flying is the amount of hours on those airframes, they can handle only so many before they become a liability/hazard to fly. "

True. That is why I suggested they be put back into production, build some new ones, and a supply of spare parts. It should remain in inventory for many years to come!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

Never Pick A Fight With An Old Man He Will Just Shoot You He Can't Afford To Get Hurt

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-06-29   14:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#8)

Build a few less of the expensive toys and more A10's. They dod a job that needs doing.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-06-29   18:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: nolu chan (#13)

I agree but I'm a big A10 fanboi and not unbiased.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-06-29   19:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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