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Title: After Getting Busted for Bombing Syria Based On a Lie, Trump Doubles Down … Threatens to Bomb Syria Even Harder Based On Same BS
Source: Zero Hedge
URL Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017- ... n-%E2%80%A6-threatens-bomb-syr
Published: Jun 27, 2017
Author: George Washington
Post Date: 2017-06-27 13:53:54 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6745
Comments: 31

A report yesterday by the Pulitzer-prize winning reporter who broke some of the biggest stories of the Vietnam and Iraq wars showed that Trump bombed Syria on April 4th based upon false pretenses.

Specifically, Trump said the Syrian government carried out a chemical weapons attack on civilians, but U.S. military and intelligence officials say that they told Trump there was no evidence for that claim … and they say that what really happened is that Syria bombed Islamic terrorists, and that accidentally released chemicals being stored by the terrorists.

So how does Trump respond to the report?

He doubles down on the bull …

White House spokesman Sean Spicer said tonight:

The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children.

 

The activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its April 4, 2017 chemical weapons attack. [Oh ... you mean the Syria government is planning on bombing Islamic terrorists again?]

 

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If … Mr. Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price.

After Spicer’s statement, Neocon warmonger – and U.S. representative to the U.N. – Nikki Haley tweeted:

Any further attacks done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia & Iran who support him killing his own people.

Notice that Haley does not say:

Any further attacks CARRIED OUT BY THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT and done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia & Iran who support him killing his own people.

Anything bad happens - whether it's carried out by Assad, or ISIS, or Al Qaeda, or outside forces trying to destabilize Syria - it will be blamed on Assad as a justification for a lot more bombing.

Postscript:  This little game has been going on for 68 years.  Specifically, the U.S. government has been trying to replace the Syrian government with folks who will be subservient to America since 1949 … 3 years after Syria became an independent nation.

The CIA succeeded in carrying out a coup in Syria 1949.

In 1957, the American president and British prime minister agreed to launch regime change again in Syria using a false flag. (False flags are not only historically documented, but presidents, prime ministers, congressmen, generals, spooks, soldiers and police have ADMITTED to planning and carrying out false flag attacks).

In 1983, 1986, 1991, 2001, 2009 and 2012, American officials again schemed about regime change in Syria.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Syria is a Russian ally, the place where the Russians base their fleet.

Syria is also a bitter enemy of Israel, refusing to formally make peace.

Syria is a supporter of terrorists who attack Syria and elsewhere.

Syria is a dictatorship whose government slaughters its people.

So, given all of those things, we have ample reason to destroy the Syrian regime.

For us NOT to do so requires a series of moves by the Russians and the Syrians.

We will let the Russians keep their base there intact, if they police the Syrian government so that it will do the following:

(1) Formally make peace with and recognize Israel, including accepting long- term Israeli policing of the Golan Heights. Syria attacked Israel from the Golan Heights multiple times. They cannot be permitted to simply reassume possession without an Israeli presence. So, governorship can pass, but the Israelis must be permitted to stay, unmolested, as long as it takes to build trust.

(2) Expel the terrorists, stop supporting them, kill them.

(3) Stop slaughtering their own people, and get rid of all chemical or biological weapons.

Do that, and the Syrian regime can be permitted to live, and the Russians have peaceful and unmolested use of their naval base. Everybody is happy and we go home.

Anything less, and it looks as though Syrian regime supporters are just going to have to keep on dying, until they accept the terms or are overthrown. We're not going anywhere until we get what we want.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-06-27   14:40:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Syria is a Russian ally, the place where the Russians base their fleet.

True.

Syria is also a bitter enemy of Israel, refusing to formally make peace.

Israel is hardly interested in peace themselves so both are guilty.

Syria is a supporter of terrorists who attack Syria and elsewhere.

However true this is, it's also true of most every government int he region, including Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Syria is a dictatorship whose government slaughters its people.

Saudi Arabia is also a dictatorship, and claims that Syria kills it's own people are suspect due to the political forces in play.

So, given all of those things, we have ample reason to destroy the Syrian regime.

No we don't, unless we also commit to destroying the Saudi Arabia regime which of course will never happen as long as the SA monarchy remains an "ally" of the USA.

(1) Formally make peace with and recognize Israel, including accepting long- term Israeli policing of the Golan Heights.

Israel will not agree to peace with the current Syrian government no matter what. The Golan Heights is certainly a sticky point Syria will likely never agree to.

Syria attacked Israel from the Golan Heights multiple times. They cannot be permitted to simply reassume possession without an Israeli presence. So, governorship can pass, but the Israelis must be permitted to stay, unmolested, as long as it takes to build trust.

However reasonable this may seem, Syria will never accept such proposal as it would be very humiliating to them.

(2) Expel the terrorists, stop supporting them, kill them.

(3) Stop slaughtering their own people, and get rid of all chemical or biological weapons.

Syria already fully agreed to get rid of their chem weapons, and Russia supports this as well. By some accounts, this was already done under Obama/Kerry due to a great diplomatic move by Putin vs Kerry which took Kerry off guard.

Anything less, and it looks as though Syrian regime supporters are just going to have to keep on dying, until they accept the terms or are overthrown. We're not going anywhere until we get what we want.

Actually, with Russian support, the pro-Assad forces continue to make gains defeating rebels in Syria. If the momentum continues, ISIS will be defeated in Syria and the only rebels remaining will be US supported rebels, including the Kurds that Turkey hates. At that point, pressure will rise for Assad to attack those rebels, and the risk of a US Russian confrontation will be greater than it is now.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-27   15:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pinguinite (#2) (Edited)

Actually, with Russian support, the pro-Assad forces continue to make gains defeating rebels in Syria. If the momentum continues, ISIS will be defeated in Syria and the only rebels remaining will be US supported rebels, including the Kurds that Turkey hates. At that point, pressure will rise for Assad to attack those rebels, and the risk of a US Russian confrontation will be greater than it is now.

Then the pressure will rise and rise, and the Russians will keep backing away from the confrontation, and the US-backed rebels will continue to be a perpetual thorn in their side, because we are not going anywhere until we get what we want, and we are much more powerful than Russia, so they cannot push us out, and do not dare get into a direct military conflict with America, because if they do, they will lose.

So, the war will continue.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-06-27   16:18:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

because we are not going anywhere until we get what we want, and we are much more powerful than Russia, so they cannot push us out, and do not dare get into a direct military conflict with America, because if they do, they will lose.

Putin is no fool. He's very clever and sly, and fortunately for US, also reasonable and interested in peace. And while Russia doesn't have nearly the military budget the US does, they do have state of the art anti aircraft weaponry, and ultimately, nuclear weapons. And if they use them, yes, they will still lose, but they will not lose alone. The advantage Putin has is he's aware of that, which the US leadership and populous seems to arrogantly not get, and dangerously so.

So, the war will continue.

I expect the US will have to eventually concede that Syria will not go the way it, Israel, and Saudi Arabia wants. Assad, or at least his family, will remain in charge of Syria. The ball will then be in the anti-Assad regional powers in the area to try something else, and life &, yes, war will continue.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-27   16:32:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pinguinite (#7) (Edited)

True, Putin is no fool. Neither is Trump.

They need to meet and come to an agreement on Syria. If the agreement is "Assad stays", the non-negotiable part is "and he stops supporting terrorism against Israel and the West, and stops letting Syria be used as a sanctuary for terrorists".

The Russian base is the non-negotiable thing for Russia. The end of Syria as a sanctuary for terrorism is the real non-negotiable thing for the US.

It took Nixon to go to China. It's going to take Trump and Putin to work out Syria, because the regular American diplomatic, military and intelligence services are too infected with Russophobia to be able to honestly make a deal. Trump and Putin can make a deal, and if it is mutually beneficial, both have a strong incentive to keep it.

The incentive for the Americans is that Syria stops being a hub and sanctuary for terrorism, and the security situation in the Middle East vastly improves.

The incentive for the Russians is the security of their base, and the security (and legitimacy) of Assad as long as he doesn't dabble in terror.

Everybody wins except the terrorists in that circumstance.

As for the US-backed insurgents - they have to be allowed to peacefully emigrate. If they're Christians, to the US, if they're Muslims, preferably to some other Muslim country, perhaps Lebanon. If the answer is that the guy we backed them against gets to win, we can't let the people who supported us get slaughtered.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-06-27   17:22:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Vicomte13 (#11)

True, Putin is no fool. Neither is Trump.

Trump is smart, but he's also inexperienced. Putin has plenty of experience and smarts.

I bet if & when they meet in person, Trump is going to be impressed as hell with Putin, moreso than he was with President Xi if China. And I predict they will get along quite well and the US tone will change in Syria.

The incentive for the Americans is that Syria stops being a hub and sanctuary for terrorism, and the security situation in the Middle East vastly improves.

Like hell it will improve. What about Saudi Arabia being a sanctuary for terrorism? Do you think Assad actually has that much control over his country?

Radical Islam won't go away, with or without Assad.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-27   17:52:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#12)

Of course Saudi Arabia is a problem, but the issue of Syria and the issue of Saudi Arabia are not linked.

Saudi Arabia is being brought to heel by the resurgence of American energy production, which is driving the price of their oil down below the levels that they can afford to sustain their current structures.

Syria doesn't have oil, and is a Russian client.

If Assad needs help patrolling Syria to drive out the terrorists, I am sure that the Russians, the Americans and the Israelis will all be happy to assist.

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