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Title: Police officer who shot Philando Castile found not guilty
Source: thehill.com
URL Source: http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby ... astile-found-not-guilty-report
Published: Jun 16, 2017
Author: John Bowden
Post Date: 2017-06-16 17:09:44 by misterwhite
Keywords: None
Views: 11960
Comments: 55

Minnesota police officer who was charged with manslaughter after he shot a black motorist five times during a traffic stop last year was found not guilty by a jury on Friday, according to multiple reports.

Defense attorneys said Jeronimo Yanez, the 29-year-old Latino police officer, was scared for his life when he shot Philando Castile, 32, seconds after Castile informed the officer he was armed.

Prosecutors insisted Yanez never saw the gun and had plenty of options other than shooting Castile, who was an elementary school cafeteria worker.

The officer was also acquitted of two counts of discharging a firearm that endangers safety, according to CNN, which reported that several members of Castile's family screamed profanities and cried Friday after the verdicts were announced.

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Castile's death went viral after his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, live streamed the immediate aftermath of the shooting on Facebook, seconds after Castile was shot by the officer. Video captured from Yanez's squad car showed Yanez approaching Castile's car and Castile's voice warning the officer, "Sir, I have to tell you, I do have a firearm on me." Before Castile can even finish the sentence, Yanez begins shouting. There is an exchange of words, before Yanez yells, "Don't pull it out!" and shoots Castile five times.

The video shows Yanez firing into the car but doesn't show any of Castile's actions inside the car. Some of the conversation between Yanez and Castile is unintelligible.

Yanez was charged with endangering the lives of Reynolds and her 4-year-old daughter, who was in the car during the shooting, but found not guilty.

In November, Ramsey County Attorney John Choi argued that Yanez's use of force was unwarranted, because Castile never attempted to access his gun.

After the verdict, Castile's mother Valerie was quoted by The New York Times saying, “My son loved this city, and this city killed my son. And a murderer gets away. Are you kidding me right now?”

“The system in this country continues to fail black people and will continue to fail us," she added.

Ten members of the 12-person jury were white, while the remaining two were black. Reynolds says in the video that Castile never reached for his gun, but defense attorneys targeted inconsistencies in her story to cast doubt on her credibility.

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#12. To: misterwhite (#0)

The moral of the story seems to be that it is dangerous to be in the presence of an armed police officer, and anyone that doesn't realize that and does something to scare the officer, even if such action is normal behavior anywhere else, can be shot and killed for doing so.

People need to be taught that an armed police officer is a dangerous police officer so they won't do stupid things like what this guy did. It's apparent this man felt safe in the presence of this officer, felt he could trust and be trusted by him, and that's what got him killed.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   4:47:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pinguinite (#12)

"The moral of the story seems to be that it is dangerous to be in the presence of an armed police officer ... "

Is that the moral of the story? His girlfriend was the presence of an armed police officer and nothing happened to her. The child was in the presence of an armed police officer and nothing happened to the child.

Hmmmm. Maybe the moral of the story is that you don't ignore the lawful orders of a police officer and reach for a loaded gun in your front pocket. I think that'll get you shot every single time.

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-17   11:03:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: misterwhite (#13)

Hmmmm. Maybe the moral of the story is that you don't ignore the lawful orders of a police officer and reach for a loaded gun in your front pocket. I think that'll get you shot every single time.

Yes, something everyone should know and be taught, because when you do, you get shot and killed by a public servant because he'll be in fear for his life.

Why would you be opposed to teaching this to the general public? If this guy was stupid for how he behaved, why not let it be a lesson for all?

Don't reach for anything. Including a driver's license. Maybe he should not have informed the cop he was armed as required by law, as that information scared the crap out of the cop. If he had not done that, he may have been fine.

If he really was a hardened criminal intent on shooting the cop, then why would he have told the cop he had a gun? I suppose all thugs do that, right?

Whatever he was reaching for, whether his gun or his license, he obviously had no criminal intent in doing so.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   12:02:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pinguinite (#16)

"Whatever he was reaching for, whether his gun or his license, he obviously had no criminal intent in doing so."

How can you possibly know that? The cop was screamng at him to stop what he was doing. Yet he persisted. The cop assumed criminal intent, as did the jury, as do I.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-17   12:43:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite (#18)

The cop assumed criminal intent, as did the jury, as do I.

No he didn't, and neither did the jury. He was just in fear for his life. That's all the justification that's required for cops to kill.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   12:54:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pinguinite (#19)

"He was just in fear for his life."

For no reason?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-17   12:55:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#20)

For no reason?

For any reason.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   13:32:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Pinguinite (#21)

For any reason.

Any? I don't think a jury would accept "any" reason. Yet they accepted his reason. Why do you think that was?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-17   14:38:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite (#22)

Any? I don't think a jury would accept "any" reason.

I sure do.

Yet they accepted his reason. Why do you think that was?

Because there was no video of the actual shooting, or the moment beforehand. And in order to convict, the jury needs evidence that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the shooting was unwarranted. Circumstantial evidence is not enough.

For any ordinary person, shooting another is itself sufficient evidence to convict. But cops are uniquely granted the "I feared for my life" defense which ordinary people are not. And without any video of the shooting or the moment beforehand, there was nothing to debunk his claim of being in fear for his life. So he walks.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   16:12:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pinguinite (#23)

"there was nothing to debunk his claim of being in fear for his life."

Ah. So the fact that the driver had a loaded gun in his front pocket and was reaching for it -- despite being told by the officer not to do it -- played no factor in the shooting.

The officer said he was in fear for his life and ... that's it. The jury hears that and it's not guilty.

Remember that retired Tampa police captain who shot and killed a man in a movie theater for throwing popcorn at him. He said he feared for his life. Yet ...

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-17   17:45:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#24)

Ah. So the fact that the driver had a loaded gun in his front pocket and was reaching for it -- despite being told by the officer not to do it -- played no factor in the shooting.

It's not clear if he was reaching for his wallet or the gun, but even if he had been reaching for the gun, it was pursuant to the conversation in which he voluntarily (albeit via lawful mandate) informed the cop that he had a legally owned firearm, and that he felt it prudent to allow the officer to see the gun, as a concealed gun could be considered more dangerous than one in plain view. While I'm sure you would suggest the jury believed that thugs and outlaws routinely tell cops they are armed before firing upon them, I would, in fact, disagree. I also maintain complete confidence that the same jury would, in spite of this acquittal, also say that this man did not deserve to die and that it is very unlikely that this man had any intention of firing upon the cop.

What we could agree on is that the guy should have realized his life was in danger when he first informed the cop he legally possessed firearm, and at that point, conduct himself as though he was being robbed at gunpoint. Which he pretty much was, being robbed of his life. OF course, he had no way of knowing that the real reason for the stop was probably because his car matched the description of a car used in a crime earlier in the day, and not for any infraction. So the cop was on edge, and the guy wasn't, and the guy had no way of knowing the cop was on edge.

BTW, 52 traffic stops in 14 years, and he still had his license? Apparently eitehr that number is not true, or many/most of those stops did not result in any penalty.

The officer said he was in fear for his life and ... that's it. The jury hears that and it's not guilty.

Without specific evidence to the contrary, that's exactly how it happens.

Remember that retired Tampa police captain who shot and killed a man in a movie theater for throwing popcorn at him. He said he feared for his life. Yet ...

Yet what? Did he get convicted or acquitted, or is that still playing out in the courts as this old cop hopes he dies of natural causes before any trial can happen?

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-06-17   18:31:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pinguinite (#25)

"It's not clear if he was reaching for his wallet or the gun"

It doesn't have to be. The cop screamed at him to stop what he was doing. He continued.

"and that he felt it prudent to allow the officer to see the gun"

He felt? Prudent? It was reckless and dangerous. Keep your hands on the wheel holding your driver's licence and concealed carry permit, tell the officer you're armed and ask him how he wants to proceed. He may simply tell you to leave it there and not reach for it.

If you want to carry concealed, those are the rules that go with it. Had this idiot followed them, he'd be alive today.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-06-18   9:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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