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Title: Trump's mental health poses 'existential threat' to the world
Source: Independent
URL Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w ... h-goldwater-rule-a7746176.html
Published: May 20, 2017
Author: Lucy Pasha-Robinson
Post Date: 2017-05-20 09:41:02 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 8288
Comments: 24

Trump's inability to feel guilt leaves us all 'vulnerable'

Donald Trump’s mental health poses an "existential threat" to the world because of his power to launch nuclear weapons at any time and for any reason, a leading psychiatrist has warned. 

John Zinner said the US President's inability to feel guilt makes us all “vulnerable” to his “inner rage”. 

He believes Mr Trump suffers from a fundamental self-esteem problem, which could lead to serious consequences. 

The American Psychiatric Association states it is unethical for members to speculate over the mental health of a public figure from a distance under the Goldwater rule. 

However, the clinic professor from George Washington University told The Times he felt he had a duty to society to speak out. 

“We are facing an existential threat from Donald Trump because of his unfettered authority to launch nuclear weapons at any time and for any reason,” he said. 

“[He] has a particular kind of character that’s very well known, especially by psychoanalytically orientated mental health people. What it involves is a fundamental self-esteem problem; an insecure self-esteem, side by side with a sense of grandiosity. So the person has a very contradictory image of themselves.”

He also claimed the former real estate mogul has “an extreme sensitivity to slights”, saying: “He can’t take criticism, and blames others, as he’s doing right now, blaming his staff for all the things that he did. His other reaction is rage.”

Dr Zinner is not the first psychiatrist to break the Goldwater rule, something that has divided medical opinion since Mr Trump’s inauguration. 

The American Psychological Association issued a statement regarding their version of rule during the 2016 presidential campaign, after a number of media outlets asked them to weigh in on Mr Trump’s psychological fitness to become president. 

“Our Code of Ethics clearly warns psychologists against diagnosing any person, including public figures, whom they have not personally examined,” President Susan McDaniel wrote at the time. 

The clause, dating back to 1973, was named after the 1964 Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. 

Over 2,000 psychiatrists responded to Fact magazine’s 1964 survey asking if Mr Goldwater was psychologically fit for the presidency in their estimation.

The majority said he was not and the magazine published nearly 40 pages of the psychiatrists’ responses shortly before the election. Mr Goldwater lost and subsequently sued the now-defunct magazine for libel and won. 

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Donald Trump’s mental health poses an "existential threat" to the world because

He dares to stand up to progressives and their world destroying ideology and Nazi ways(Even Stalin would be impressed). Progressives are the borg of politics. Join or die, its your choice.

If only we had elected Barry Goldwater back then many of the ills of today would not be here. If you are looking for government and especially federal govenrment for answers you are lost and have no clue.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-20   10:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Justified (#1)

If only we had elected Barry Goldwater back then many of the ills of today would not be here.

WE wouldn't be here either... NONE of us...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-20   10:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#2)

Oh please. That was LBJ's over the top crap. Don't forget who sent our boys to Vietnam and then control the war through politics from halfway around the world. Im sorry that your life evolves around government handouts but the rest of the hard working world works just fine with out.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-20   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Justified (#3)

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-20   11:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#4)

Which LBJ will we get? The one that put the hit out on JFK or the one that sent our boys to Vietnam with their hands tied to their leg? Or the LBJ that when it got tough he just quit?

After the last 2 decades of watching the msm and political groups I can bet every word used against Goldwater was taken out of context.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-20   13:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#4)

Who about that one?

Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. Their mistaken course stems from false notions of equality, ladies and gentlemen. Equality, rightly understood, as our founding fathers understood it, leads to liberty and to the emancipation of creative differences. Wrongly understood, as it has been so tragically in our time, it leads first to conformity and then to despotism.

He nailed it.

How about this

It is a fact that Lyndon Johnson and his curious crew seem to believe that progress in this country is best served simply and directly through the ever-expanding gift power of the everlastingly growing Federal Government. One thing we all know, and I assure you I do: that's a much easier way to get votes than my way. It always has been. It's political Daddyism, and it's as old as demagogues and despotism.

Yep Nailed it again.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-20   13:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Justified (#6)

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-20   17:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#7)

You do realize Goldwater is jewish?

So the KKK are so racist they would rather vote for a jewboy instead of one of their own?

Justified  posted on  2017-05-20   17:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Justified (#8)

Actually, Goldwater was Episcopalian his entire life.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-20   22:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Trump's mental health poses 'existential threat' to the world

So did Hllary's. If you don't believe it, ask the people in Libya where she was just getting started imposing her mission.

rlk  posted on  2017-05-20   23:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: rlk (#10)

ask the people in Libya where she was just getting started imposing her mission.

Are you saying Trump & Putin would have preferred keeping Moo-a-mar Khaddaffy in power?

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-21   8:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#9)

Actually, Goldwater was Episcopalian his entire life.

"Goldwater's parents were married in an Episcopal church in Phoenix; for his entire life, Goldwater was an Episcopalian, though on rare occasions he referred to himself as "Jewish".[12] "

He was Jewish and thats all the klan had to know. Whether he converted is irrelevant.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-21   11:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#11)

Are you saying Trump & Putin would have preferred keeping Moo-a-mar Khaddaffy in power?

I'm saying Kadafi hadn't any use for Arab Spring and neither did his people. Jihad and a caliphate were forced on Libya with the aid of the U. S. Air Force.

rlk  posted on  2017-05-21   13:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Justified (#12)

Goldwater wasn't Jewish PERIOD. And he didn't convert.

Goldwater's father was Jewish, but his mother, Hattie "JoJo" Williams, was a Gentile... an Episcopalian from a New England family in Rhode Island... And they were married in an Episcopal church.

And according to Orthodox Jewish Law... Jewishness is matrilieal...
That means, in order to be a hereditary Jew, your mother had to be Jewish.

Goldwater's mother wasn't Jewish... So Goldwater wasn't Jewish. PERIOD.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-21   17:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Willie Green (#14)

Well I would take the Goldwaters word over yours any day.

His father was Jewish and his mother was Christian. They raised him as a Christian but he never forget his Jewish ancestry. He even called himself Jewish at times.

Truth hurt?

Justified  posted on  2017-05-21   18:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Justified (#15)

Deuteronomy 7:3-4
3 You shall not intermarry with them, neither giving your daughters to their sons nor taking their daughters for your sons. 4 For they would turn your sons from following me to serving other gods, and then the anger of the Lord would flare up against you and he would quickly destroy you.

It doesn't matter what Barry said on those rare occasions where it might have been politically convenient to claim he was a jew because he wasn't. Barry's mother wasn't Jewish, so Barry wasn't Jewish.

And you don't have to take my word for it when GOD HIMSELF said so in Deuteronomy 7:3-4. Barry's father intermarried with the daughter of a Gentile against God's will... and she turned him into an Episcopalian, just like it says in the Bible...

Episcopalians are not Jews because according to the Jews, Jesus isn't God... And Barry was Episcopalian... PERIOD.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-22   8:52:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#16)

So his own words mean nothing about himself?

You're talking klan and the name Goldwater. Im sure they will take the time to go look up and see if he is Christian or not. LOL This way back before they had internet. Im sure the bias newspapers where not saying anything that would make you think he was anything but Jewish because most Americans would not vote for him if they believed he was Jewish(which they didn't).

Justified  posted on  2017-05-22   15:59:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified (#17)

LBJ was for the Civil Rights Act.
Goldwater was against it.
The Klan hated LBJ & supported Goldwater.
They didn't give a damn about his last name.
They hated blacks worse than jews.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-22   18:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Willie Green (#18)

LBJ is a POS that I believe had JFK murdered. He has forever destroyed America with his crazy war called Vietnam. The man is evil. When it got tough he quit!!

Oh and im from Texas. His civil rights was destroy the black family and make hard working Americans pay for it. He is the biggest dick ever voted into office. To this day we have blown more money on the failed war on poverty than any program in history. What we got for it is a higher poverty rate, a destroyed black family and inner city that no one dare live in. I believe we could have run the government for 2 decades on what was spent on failed civil rights/ poverty / fucked up society!!!!

Justified  posted on  2017-05-22   18:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Willie Green (#18)

Justified  posted on  2017-05-22   18:40:39 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Justified (#19)

LBJ is a POS that I believe had JFK murdered.

Well that just proves that you're a fuckin' fruitcake...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-22   19:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Justified, Willie Green (#15)

Well I would take the Goldwaters word over yours any day.

I would not take small minority orthodox beliefs as the majority belief or the belief reflected in Israeli law.

http://www.jcpa.org/dje/articles2/demographics.htm

Israel has somewhat over 3.5 million Jews. According to the best available studies, up to 25 percent, or 850,000, consider themselves Orthodox while an equal number consider themselves secular. That leaves 50 percent who consider themselves traditional.

[...]

Eleven percent of American Jews defined themselves as Orthodox in the 1970 study, or approximately 600,000 people. That figure has remained relatively consistent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return

Law of Return

The Law of Return is Israeli legislation, passed on 5 July 1950, which gives Jews the right to live in Israel and to gain Israeli citizenship. In 1970, the right of entry and settlement was extended to people with one Jewish grandparent and non-Jewish people who were married to Jews, although they were not considered Jewish under Jewish law.

History

The Law of Return was enacted by the Knesset, Israel's Parliament, on July 5, 1950. The Law declares the right of Jews to come to Israel: "Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh." Follow-up legislation on immigration matters was contained in the Nationality Law of 1952. The Law of Return was modified in 1970 to extend the right of return to non-Jews with a Jewish grandparent, and their spouses.

The law since 1970 applies to those born Jews (having a Jewish mother or maternal grandmother), those with Jewish ancestry (having a Jewish father or grandfather) and converts to Judaism (Orthodox, Reform, or Conservative denominations—not secular—though Reform and Conservative conversions must take place outside the state, similar to civil marriages).

In the Law of Return, the State of Israel put into practice the Zionist movement's "credo" which called for the establishment of Israel as a Jewish state.

Those who immigrate to Israel under the Law of Return are immediately entitled to gain citizenship in Israel. However, differences of opinion have arisen as to whether a person who claims citizenship under the Law of Return should be automatically registered as "Jewish" for census purposes. According to the halakhic definition, a person is Jewish if his or her mother is Jewish, or if he or she converts to Judaism. Orthodox Jews do not recognize conversions performed by Reform or Conservative Judaism. However, the Law provides that any Jew regardless of affiliation may migrate to Israel and claim citizenship.

Originally, the Law of Return was restricted to Jews only. A 1970 amendment, however, stated that, "The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law... are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew."

A Jew can be excluded from Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return if he or she is considered to be dangerous to the welfare of the State of Israel. Jews who have a past that involves a serious crime, such as murder, or who are fugitives in another country for any felony (unless they are persecution victims) can be denied citizenship. This clause has been used to exclude applicants a handful of times since Israel's establishment. Notable cases include Robert Soblen, an American Communist who spied for the Soviet Union and fled to Israel in an attempt to escape a life sentence, Meyer Lansky, an American mobster who was initially granted entry to Israel but was expelled two years later, and Victor Vancier, an American Kahanist activist convicted of involvement in a series of bombings. Jewish Ancestry Amendment

The 1970 amendment was induced by the debate on "Who is a Jew?" Until then the law did not refer to the question. There are several explanations for the decision to be so inclusive. One is that as the Nuremberg Laws did not use a halakhic definition in its definition of "Who is a Jew", the Law of Return definition for citizenship eligibility is not halakhic, either.

Furthermore, the clause in Amendment number 2, 4a, states,

The rights of a Jew under this Law and the rights of an oleh under the Nationality Law, 5712-1952***, as well as the rights of an oleh under any other enactment, are also vested in a child and a grandchild of a Jew, the spouse of a Jew, the spouse of a child of a Jew and the spouse of a grandchild of a Jew, except for a person who has been a Jew and has voluntarily changed his/her religion.

Therefore, a Jew who has voluntarily changed his/her religion is not considered a Jew, and is not eligible to immigrate under the law of return, but would have been persecuted as a Jew under the Nuremberg laws, and is still a Jew according to Halakha.

Another explanation is the 1968 wave of immigration from Poland, following an antisemitic campaign by the government. These immigrants were very assimilated and had many non-Jewish family members.

The Israeli Rabbinate is a purely Orthodox body that is far more strict in defining 'who is a Jew'. This creates a situation in which thousands of immigrants who are eligible for citizenship under the Law of Return's criteria, are ineligible for Jewish marriage by the Israeli Rabbinate.

A second explanation is that in order to increase immigration levels so as to offset the "demographic threat" posed by the growth of the Arab population, the law expanded the base group of those eligible to immigrate to Israel.

A third explanation promoted by religious Jews is that the overwhelmingly secular leadership in Israel sought to undermine the influence of religious elements in Israeli politics and society by allowing more secular Jews and their non-Jewish spouses to immigrate.

As of 2008, 2,734,245 Jews have immigrated to Israel since 1950. Hundreds of thousands of non-Jews have received Israeli citizenship, as the law confers citizenship to all offspring of a Jew (including grandchildren) and their spouses.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-05-22   19:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: nolu chan (#22)

I would not take small minority orthodox beliefs as the majority belief or the belief reflected in Israeli law.

Goldwater wasn't Israeli,,, He was Episcopalian.

Episcopalian's aren't Jewish... They're Christian.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-22   20:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Willie Green (#23)

Goldwater wasn't Israeli,,, He was Episcopalian.

Episcopalian's aren't Jewish... They're Christian.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Goldwater was half Jewish. It speaks to ethnicity, not religion. Why is that so hard to understand?

nolu chan  posted on  2017-05-22   22:27:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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