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Title: Who had May 15th in the "FR crashes" pool?
Source: Me
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com
Published: May 15, 2017
Author: Hank Rearden
Post Date: 2017-05-15 11:21:48 by Hank Rearden
Keywords: None
Views: 20462
Comments: 73

Midway through the 90-day 'fundraising' grift, FR has crashed today. To me, this is a bit early to schedule the outage, as it may not instill sufficient panic amongst the acolytes. But that $88k just has to be scooped up this quarter before the next round starts July 1.

And after all these years, all those millions of dollars, you STILL can't edit a typo or mistaken statement in a posting there.

Way to go, Hopalong.

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#18. To: Tooconservative, Hank Rearden, redleghunter (#1)

Keep in mind that if you raise the blood pressure of the elderly cat ladies too much, you lose more of them to heart attacks than you can make up via increased donations in the Griftathon.

Also these downtimes give those harpies like onyx a break from long thon shifts covering 24 hours a day (re-)posting dumb pictures, like babies making funny faces and pets with donate captions.

onyx regularly posts complains about not getting enough sleep and how long the thons last.(Bless her heart we have FR due to her slaving away)

A few years ago her only computer died (at least that's what she claimed) during a thon and she said she had to get one at Best Buy.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-16   13:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TrappedInMd (#18)

onyx regularly posts complains about not getting enough sleep and how long the thons last.(Bless her heart we have FR due to her slaving away)

I wonder if it'll sink into her head that all her time and effort is for naught, given the results. She's just working for free to keep the Robinsons in breadsticks and beer.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   13:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hank Rearden (#19)

I wonder if it'll sink into her head that all her time and effort is for naught, given the results. She's just working for free to keep the Robinsons in breadsticks and beer.

Its very possible she gets something out of it that they never tell us. In the past freepers have FRmailed me accusing her of being a moderator.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-16   14:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TrappedInMd (#18)

A few years ago her only computer died (at least that's what she claimed) during a thon and she said she had to get one at Best Buy.

Oh, my. The sheer drama!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   14:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#17)

One has to wonder what it will take for the sheeple there to call bullshit on the whole Griftathon scam.

It's like Amway. Even after everyone actually knows its a scam, they stay with it because it is a participation cult and many of the freepers have no social life away from FR.

Televangelists prey on the same kind of shut-ins.

This is why the format and features change so rarely. Any change is traumatic for the long-time cult members.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   14:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#0) (Edited)

After being down for almost two days, they finally found the technical skills to put this online:

Down
Free Republic is down for hardware maintenance. See our Facebook Group for more information.



That's worth $1,000/day operating revenue, isn't it? And it's not down for 'maintenance', it's down because "the hard drive" (get it? THE hard drive) went blooey.

How much does Carbonite or a decent RAID system cost these days?

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   21:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Man, these guys are sucked in deep - open the Pinned Post reply threads to witness the ignorant bootlicking.

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough; they need a SPECIAL fundraiser to set up a server that actually has some redundancy. Others say it can't be helped: John lives in a different city from the server. Guess that's decreed by God and carved in stone as The Way It Must Be Forevermore.

So that third of a mil must be going to breadsticks now. You have to hand it to them; the Robinsons are masters of the long con. It's really something to see happening these days, in real time. People still fall for things.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-17   13:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Hank Rearden (#23)

How much does Carbonite or a decent RAID system cost these days?

Your mistake is thinking that a rational technical solution is actually desired by FR management. Not so.

If they fixed these problems, what would happen to their Griftathon outages?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   15:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Hank Rearden, A K A Stone (#24)

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough; they need a SPECIAL fundraiser to set up a server that actually has some redundancy.

Another good indicator that this is a cult, not just a chat board.

They do display a lot of cultish behavior.

Almost as much as AKA gets here at LF. LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   15:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#26)

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough;

Stumpy hasn't raked in that much cash in over a dozen years...

I doubt if the Snookerthon even makes 1/4 what they say it does... probably less than that...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-17   17:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Willie Green, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#27)

Are you suggesting we have a "Flameathon" here?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-05-17   18:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Willie Green (#27)

Stumpy hasn't raked in that much cash in over a dozen years...

There were always those who doubted that they ever actually did raise that much money. But you'll never know since you can't see their books.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   19:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone, Hank Rearden, Willie Green (#28)

Are you suggesting we have a "Flameathon" here?

I think Stone should go big. Demand that LF's members donate at least a half-million. Quarterly.

    ; )

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   19:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Hank Rearden, *free republic and JR watch* (#0)

Update FR still down, check out Jim Robinson complaining about lack of $$ on the FR Facebook site to explain why FR is still down.

kumano Akachan 21 hrs
Why are we down so long?
There should be backup servers and backup storage and redundant servers and streaming real-time database duplication. I don't understand this long down time.
Does anyone know what is going on, and why we don't see updates here? I work in IT and I know the FR Gods know IT and programming, so experiencing this long void is really disheartening.

Jim Robinson reply
We're old fashioned, stubborn and dumb. Too dumb to realize you can't run an operation like this with no capital, no professional management and no expert tech staff. It's just me (an old beat-up, over-the-hill programmer) my two sons and a bookkeeper as partners. John is our entire tech staff. We do the best we can with what the Good Lord provides

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TrappedInMd (#31)

It's just me (an old beat-up, over-the-hill programmer) my two sons and a bookkeeper as partners. John is our entire tech staff.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-18   11:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TrappedInMd (#31) (Edited)

John was the entire tech staff 20 years ago, and his skillset has obviously not improved in all that time. Many utter crashes, still no ability to edit postings.

I guess they just can't afford a grand or two out of their $29,000 per MONTH revenue stream to spend on the actual business model for redundancy. And it's not the Good Lord who dumps that cash into their laps. Jesus, Hopalong sounds like Jim and Tammy Faye.

Couldn't even slap in a RAID system, oh no. And they still whine about having to drive to San Jose to check out problems because apparently Hopalong's trailer park still doesn't have electricity and Internet access. Can't possibly have an on-call real tech on retainer or find a closer location with electrical outlets.

Their breadstick bill must be outrageous.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TrappedInMd (#31) (Edited)

Jim Robinson: Was going to post a link to our online budget breakdown, but unfortunately, it's a no go right now. Anyway, you are basically correct. Most of the money raised goes to cover operating expenses (including salaries and overhead) and a relatively smaller amount for capital expenditures. Actually, we have very little capital available for capital investments..

Po', po' pitiful me.......
It's the breadstick bill.



Jim Robinson: The funny (unfortunate) thing about operating without capital is we never seem to have the time and money available to invest in and build the very best in server systems. But we always make the time and find the money required to fix it when it breaks. Also, I think we're talking more about time here than money.

Again, $29,000 per month. People are even posting to him links to RAID systems on Newegg for cheap, but his response is more excuses for being lazy and incompetent and having no help. I've always build redundancy into my various business computer systems; this is basic to corporate survival. These days, the cost to implement redundancy is almost zero in the big scheme of things.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Hank Rearden (#33)

John was the entire tech staff 20 years ago, and his skillset has obviously not improved in all that time.

Twenty years on the Internet is a looooooooooong time...

FreeRepublic is obsolete.... can't keep up with the competition...
too many alternatives available where people don't have to put up with Jimmy's paranoid tyranny...

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-18   12:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Willie Green (#35)

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

And sheeple still line up to be fleeced; read the bootlicking replies for proof.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Willie Green, Hank Rearden (#35)

FreeRepublic is obsolete.... can't keep up with the competition... too many alternatives available where people don't have to put up with Jimmy's paranoid tyranny...

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

How do we know it really goes down?

I recall on LP many just believed he does this during fundraisers to get freepers to donate more

Frank Robinson on FR Facebook:
I've seen several of these kinds of posts in the last few days, and I'm pretty much sick of them. Jim Robinson (no relation) has, for many years, furnished a platform for conservative news/views, at NO CHARGE. No annoying ads. As a physically handicapped person, he has figured out a way to make a living, without receiving government handouts. He is to be applauded. He, and his son, John, provides us with an addictive outlet for our joys and frustrations with government. He is a true conservative, in every sense of the word. Now, some people on here are yapping about "donations", and "freepathons"...my quest us, "why?". He doesn't charge you ANYTHING to sign up, and use FR. If any of you naysayers think you can do it better, then buy you a server, and get started. Jim and John know what they're doing. I've been on the board since 1998, and I can count on one hand the number of serious outages in all that time. If this outage upsets you, then find another website that pleases you more...go there, and stay there. You're acting like petulant democrats not getting their way. If you don't want to "donate", then DON'T...FR will be just fine without you grudges participation.good work work jim/John, we appreciate you both.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   12:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TrappedInMd (#37)

How do we know it really goes down?

Oh, it's definitely down: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/freerepublic.com.html and Johnny had to race off to San Jose to examine the hard drive and carefully carry it back to the trailer park like a Faberge egg to do incantations over it or something.

Much easier than just installing new hardware with built-in RAID, I suppose. It's only been 20 years of screwups; they're still learning.

But at least a few brave sheeple are posting on the FB site, reminding people that it always goes down during high-stress periods, too - like election nights, and are postulating why it needs to be that way given the amount of revenue they receive.

That would be $29,000 per month, remember.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   13:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Hank Rearden (#38)

Oh, it's definitely down: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/freerepublic.com.html and Johnny had to race off to San Jose to examine the hard drive and carefully carry it back to the trailer park like a Faberge egg to do incantations over it or something.

I been using isitdownrightnow.

What I really meant is how do we know he's not bringing it down on purpose.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   13:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TrappedInMd (#39)

What I really meant is how do we know he's not bringing it down on purpose.

For a day, day and a half, maybe - to stimulate the sheeple.

It's been about four days now - that's way too long, now people start getting used to being without it and are wondering why it's so crappy for so much money.

If this is intentional, he's overplayed his hand. That doesn't mean he won't recover the grift to at least 95% of what it was; bootlicks persist.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   13:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Hank Rearden (#38)

Johnny had to race off to San Jose to examine the hard drive and carefully carry it back to the trailer park like a Faberge egg to do incantations over it or something.

Bwaahaa!! Hilarious!!

Liberator  posted on  2017-05-18   13:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Hank Rearden, TrappedInMd, TooConservative, redleghunter (#40)

It's been about four days now - that's way too long, now people start getting used to being without it...

Yes, the SANE Freepers are getting used to it, having already wise to the charade and flown the coop to other forums that don't prey upon the aging, the naive, loyal, honest patriots.

Most Freepers are so used to using FR as their proxy best friend, hubby/wifey, and narcotic that many are likely having drug withdrawal symptoms and separation anxiety after 4 days. This is the same cruel joke and script the Robinsons have played on a regular basis for HOW LONG NOW??

At what point do the majority resent this same game, repeated script and Pavlov's Dog operation during these shake-downs?

It's like a comedic Twilight Zone episode. John Rob finally announces THE doohicky has been located somewhere in a time-warp dungeon in the year 1999...

...After posting a selfie of himself sporting a miners' helmet, blackened, sweaty face, and impish smile, John becomes lionized (as usual), showered with countless "PRAISE THE LORD!" thanks for supposedly risking life and limb through the Gates of Hell...JUST to raise old, battered, sabotaged FR back from the dead like Lazarus.

Immediate wrath will be poured on the heads of ANY complainants, aka "Freeploaders".

Liberator  posted on  2017-05-18   14:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Liberator, Hank Rearden, TooConservative, redleghunter (#42)

Immediate wrath will be poured on the heads of ANY complainants, aka "Freeploaders".

If you don't like FR going down then just donate more $$$$. Saint JR barely gets enough in donations for himself and his family to live comfortable, he doesn't do this for $$$ he is patriotic. We should all pray thanks for him, keeping America free while handicapped.

Its just he and John (how come he doesn't mention onyx??) working together keeping old outdated servers up and running some of the time on the few measely hundreds of K$$$ he gets from our pathetic donations.

Thanks JR and Jim Jones.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   14:39:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TrappedInMd (#43)

how long

before a donor - benefactor - buyer

shows up

To The rescue

The legalizaTion of marijuana

will drive The price of breadsTicks down

love
boris

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2017-05-18   14:47:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#0) (Edited)

An hour ago:

Jim Robinson: Received a two part message from John. The first part went into some of the horror stories of procurement, replacement and recovery but he ended it upbeat. Sounds like he's making great progress. Says he's going to go up to San Jose and purchase some additional equipment then he should be ready to install. And he says installation should be straightforward as the drive is pre-loaded and ready to go. The only thing he left off was the timing and I haven't heard back from him on that yet. Oops, he just responded to my question if we were going to be up today.. Said it depends on how many unexpected problems like he had yesterday pop up. Prayers up!


I guess San Jose must be the Mecca for shitty servers - he's always going there to screw around with something. The "horror stories" no doubt result from trying to find parts for 1992 Gateway Pentium II servers.
Four days down.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   16:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Liberator (#42)

At what point do the majority resent this same game, repeated script and Pavlov's Dog operation during these shake-downs?

It's actually part of the appeal of FR. It's the whole scene.

And, yes, I agree that it is a conditioned response. RimJob has spent years conditioning his doggies to this desired behavior.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   18:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Hank Rearden, Liberator (#45)

I guess San Jose must be the Mecca for shitty servers - he's always going there to screw around with something. The "horror stories" no doubt result from trying to find parts for 1992 Gateway Pentium II servers.

Heretic!

I have it on good authority that it's a Packard Bell 486SX.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   18:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Tooconservative (#46) (Edited)

And, yes, I agree that it is a conditioned response. RimJob has spent years conditioning his doggies to this desired behavior.

Jim Robinson: Put RAID on my Christmas list, btw. And Cloud.

Twenty-nine Thousand Dollars per month.

No "you don't know what the f you're doing, given your level of donations", it's all "thank you for RimJob, God!" "we can wait forever if we have to - let's have a special griftathon!" and similar hosannas.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   18:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Tooconservative, Hank Rearden, Liberator (#47)

Hiter discovers Anti-freepers

I recalled this looking back through old LP posts.

It was 2010 and you introduced it on a thread I posted called "JR Zots Bobj' the first thread I ever posted there.

It was typical to see 5 comments per thread there but that one drew many hundreds, a fun time.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   22:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Hank Rearden, Liberator, TooConservative, redleghunter (#24)

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough; they need a SPECIAL fundraiser to set up a server that actually has some redundancy.

I saw that suggestion.

The reason why JR cant do that is many donating freepers would just donate to that instead of the current Robinson freepthon slush fund that goes to his family and friends.

"Sorry Jim, my last dollar went to your server fund and the rest of my SS check must go to my rented room, and the Mac-an-Cheese and Tuna which I live on . But MAGA!"

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   22:17:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Hank Rearden (#0)

This one from FB is funny

Bonnie Webre Graham
I don't think I've heard of any website being down this long.
Like · 1 hr

Tom Wilk
But what other website is totally spam-free and protects your identity? Although prying eyes can see what goes in and out of the web site.
Like · 58 mins

Bonnie Webre Graham
Is that why it's been down so long?
Like · 1 · 57 mins

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   22:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: All (#51)

You are a pile of FUCKEDUPPED POSTERS worried 'bout JR's website. Another DO-NOTHING THREAD.

buckeroo  posted on  2017-05-18   22:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: TrappedInMd (#49)

It was 2010 and you introduced it on a thread I posted called "JR Zots Bobj' the first thread I ever posted there.

I can't believe you recall the title of the thread. Or have a bookmark to it.

I had an old copy of the YouTube vid on my home page here at LF and this thread reminded me of it.

I still can't recall who it was over at LP that kept such meticulous records on the day-to-day take for the quarterly Griftathons. He used spreadsheets and did analysis on how long it took for the griftathons to reach their funding goal and how it was taking longer and longer over time. It was a dedicated bit of analysis that he excelled at. He was one of LP's better posters but just suddenly left LP one day.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   23:21:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone (#30)

I think Stone should go big. Demand that LF's members donate at least a half-million. Quarterly.

How much are you in for? Lets create a matching fund thread!

buckeroo  posted on  2017-05-18   23:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Hank Rearden, Liberator (#47)

I was trolling through some old bookmarks and stumbled over this LP thread.

LP: Jim Robinson Trolls for cash - Alternatives to donor based, ie, freepathon business model

It had a 'Hitler banned from FR' video I had completely forgotten about.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   23:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: buckeroo, A K A Stone (#54)

How much are you in for? Lets create a matching fund thread!

You first. LOL

But it makes me think.

  1. Stone starts a "Buy Your Own Moderator Superpowers" griftathon at LF
  2. He could offer to sell various "levels" of moderator powers at rising price points
  3. . . .
  4. Profit!
  5. [Stone subsequently doesn't grant anyone any moderator privileges here but just makes some lame excuse about needing more money to pay Neil to "add those features" to LF. He does this repeatedly, multiple times a year.]
  6. Even more profit!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   23:42:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tooconservative, ModeratorX (#56)

Psst! I just got a private email by ModeratorX ... she sez you are going to be kicked permanently (again).

buckeroo  posted on  2017-05-18   23:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: buckeroo (#57)

Psst! I just got a private email by ModeratorX ... she sez you are going to be kicked permanently (again).

Oh, thank God!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-18   23:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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