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Title: Who had May 15th in the "FR crashes" pool?
Source: Me
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com
Published: May 15, 2017
Author: Hank Rearden
Post Date: 2017-05-15 11:21:48 by Hank Rearden
Keywords: None
Views: 20456
Comments: 73

Midway through the 90-day 'fundraising' grift, FR has crashed today. To me, this is a bit early to schedule the outage, as it may not instill sufficient panic amongst the acolytes. But that $88k just has to be scooped up this quarter before the next round starts July 1.

And after all these years, all those millions of dollars, you STILL can't edit a typo or mistaken statement in a posting there.

Way to go, Hopalong.

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#1. To: Hank Rearden (#0) (Edited)

To me, this is a bit early to schedule the outage, as it may not instill sufficient panic amongst the acolytes.

Keep in mind that if you raise the blood pressure of the elderly cat ladies too much, you lose more of them to heart attacks than you can make up via increased donations in the Griftathon.

It's a fine art to tease the big bucks out of senile people in very delicate health. You have to scare the crap out of them without putting them into hospice care (where their checkbook may not be nearby).

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-15   12:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hank Rearden (#0)

1sT class monopoly ups FR

the bulk goes on privaTe delivery

double posTing conTinues

links To next page sTops

caTholic spam volumes in laTest posts

mosT everybody are busy on fedex - amazon BreiTbart

flaming liberal Trolls

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If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons - question marks are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2017-05-15   13:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Hank Rearden (#0)

I'm blaming the RUSSKIES...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2017-05-15   15:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: BorisY (#2)

"...links To nexT page sTops..."

There, PresidenT YelTsin...fixed iT 4 U...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2017-05-15   15:20:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Hank Rearden (#0)

Midway through the 90-day 'fundraising' grift, FR has crashed today. To me, this is a bit early to schedule the outage...

I was expelled from FR 18 years ago for saying Georgie Bush was less of a threat to the nation when he was a drunk and incapacitated by whiskey. I still believe it.

Having said that, FR is a good source of news and commentary and I still go there for that reason. As time has gone on, I notice the efficiency and function of the site has been decreased to put pressure on for donations. This has chased people away. The more they have flexed their muscle, the more donations they have lost. The previous quarter barely got enough income to fill in goals before the beginning af this quarter's start. At present rates, the present quarter won't meet its financial goal.

rlk  posted on  2017-05-16   0:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hank Rearden (#0)

It's sad how people are duped into dumping money into 90s technology. No improvements Zero innovation.

JRs clientele are aging boomers. He is not filling the ranks with younger posters as most find the dinosaur format to obtrusive.

redleghunter  posted on  2017-05-16   1:21:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rlk (#5)

Yes it is a good source for news. However would it hurt to bring the site into the 21st century?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-05-16   1:24:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#1)

JR should do a blanket amnesty and de-zot every past ban. Then demand a donation to stay on. That would be the ultimate scam as after the check clears he can zot them again. :-)

Wow I should be in marketing. :-)

redleghunter  posted on  2017-05-16   1:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rlk (#5)

At present rates, the present quarter won't meet its financial goal.

I hope it doesn't. I really want to see what happens. I enjoy FR. It's the best place to go to read news and commentary without ads.

I gave a couple of times till someone explained the math and I asked an IT guy about the supposed costs. Clearly there are a few people living off of the donations. That's fine by me if you can get them.

The crashes during 'thons is funny as hell, though. As soon as they come back all the usual shills come out and try to embarrass posters for money.

ironalek  posted on  2017-05-16   5:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: ironalek (#9)

Yes. It's SOP over there. So many good sites for free, like Conservative Treehouse and Breitbart.

borntoweardiamonds  posted on  2017-05-16   8:46:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: redleghunter (#8)

JR should do a blanket amnesty and de-zot every past ban.

Funny you should mention that - my FR account was unilaterally unbanned a few weeks ago (no, I didn't request it) after being terminated in 2006 for asking too many times why the GOPussies never followed through on promises they've made for decades, once they had political power in DC.

I don't plan to do anything with it, but I'm wondering if I'm one of many evildoers brought back into favor and the unbanning is a sign of desperation and an attempt to scoop up more loot. Hard for the suckers to donate if the site's down, though - almost two days now.

Also hard to believe they can't bring it back online almost immediately with failover systems and realtime backups - the money pouring in is more than sufficient to afford that.

It'll be interesting to see if, supposedly, Johnny still has to "drive to San Jose" to fix it. What's all that money buying anyway, besides breadsticks? They don't have server farms in Bootlick or wherever they live?

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   11:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#6) (Edited)

It's sad how people are duped into dumping money into 90s technology. No improvements Zero innovation.

Wanna see something funny? If it ever comes back up, check the copyright date at the bottom of the page - IIRC it's 2008, 2011 or something like that.

Not exactly evidence of a crack code-maintenance team staying on top of it. But what can they do with just a third of a million dollars per year? Maybe a billion dollars in donations would fund adding an Edit function.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   11:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Hank Rearden (#12) (Edited)

Maybe a billion dollars in donations would fund adding an Edit function.

That's a very deliberate policy, not a lack of coding ability in Perl. JohnRob has decent enough skills.

It is JimRob's policy that holds FR to a Web 1.0 interface, not lack of technical ability.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   12:00:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Hank Rearden (#11)

It'll be interesting to see if, supposedly, Johnny still has to "drive to San Jose" to fix it.

Last I knew, they had rackspace rented and had two MySQL database servers (one active, the other as continuous backup). And they had two main servers running their Perl server code that interacted with the users and the database.

You could easily run the same thing and scale up to a much larger userbase just running on Amazon rented servers. And you'd have a lot more backup solutions, more straightforward finance, lower costs overall.

But then, that would puncture the whole Griftathon racket if the cat ladies of FR ever figured any of that out. It's more fun for them to race to FR's rescue every quarter, a cult solidarity thing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   12:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#13)

Stumpy's spacebook page says it's a serious hardware problem.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-16   12:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#15)

Well, I'm not gonna click because I don't do Creepbook, a truly creepy corporation, far worse than Google and Apple combined.

So you have to paste it here if you want me to comment on it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   12:10:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Tooconservative (#16) (Edited)

So you have to paste it here if you want me to comment on it.

(My dog's account and adblockers to the rescue! Excuse the lack of formatting. Some of the sheeple are beginning to suss out the obvious. "the hard drive"!!!??? What, they have just the one? "bring it home"???? Comments would lead one to think RAID was just invented. And all for just a third of a mil per year!)

Jim Robinson 9 hrs

Update: Heard from John a little while ago. Not good. Was not able to get the hard drive going, so he decided to bring it home and after he gets some sleep, he'll try to replace it and recover the data. Looks liker we're going to be down tomorrow, too. Sorry. Prayers that he gets it all going again tomorrow.

Jim Robinson (And, yes, he was very frustrated and muttered,"'Maybe we should go to cloud.")

Ken Jacoby Hang in there....

Robert Morrow It would be great to hear about options that would guarantee zero downtime ever. Is there a reason the servers have to be kept at a location away from the home? Heck, if clinton could have one in her bathroom... Don't most servers run on a RAID platform with 3 or more drives so if one hard drive dies it's just a matter of sliding in another from the stack of new drives sitting right next to it with no data loss since it's mirrored across all the drives then the new drive data is rebuilt from the ones that are still operating. It has been a long time since I worked in the computer and networking field so I'm sure a lot has changed. Linux servers seem to be the most reliable; at least back then. Not sure about now. So many possibilities and so many folks counting on FR to be up and running at all times... maybe paying for cloud storage is an idea who's time has come.

Brian Dragomanovich https://aws.amazon.com or https://azure.microsoft.com/.../disaster-recovery-smb.../ (Currently the FR server lives at an NTT colocation datacenter in San Jose/Santa Clara http://www.us.ntt.com/.../data-center/nexcenter/us.html ) More info. on Cloud "Virtual Server" services: http://fortune.com/2015/05/19/amazon-tops-in-cloud/

Anne Marie Volowski Keep the server at the house would be better for both Jim and John.


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One has to wonder what it will take for the sheeple there to call bullshit on the whole Griftathon scam.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   12:31:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Tooconservative, Hank Rearden, redleghunter (#1)

Keep in mind that if you raise the blood pressure of the elderly cat ladies too much, you lose more of them to heart attacks than you can make up via increased donations in the Griftathon.

Also these downtimes give those harpies like onyx a break from long thon shifts covering 24 hours a day (re-)posting dumb pictures, like babies making funny faces and pets with donate captions.

onyx regularly posts complains about not getting enough sleep and how long the thons last.(Bless her heart we have FR due to her slaving away)

A few years ago her only computer died (at least that's what she claimed) during a thon and she said she had to get one at Best Buy.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-16   13:48:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TrappedInMd (#18)

onyx regularly posts complains about not getting enough sleep and how long the thons last.(Bless her heart we have FR due to her slaving away)

I wonder if it'll sink into her head that all her time and effort is for naught, given the results. She's just working for free to keep the Robinsons in breadsticks and beer.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   13:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Hank Rearden (#19)

I wonder if it'll sink into her head that all her time and effort is for naught, given the results. She's just working for free to keep the Robinsons in breadsticks and beer.

Its very possible she gets something out of it that they never tell us. In the past freepers have FRmailed me accusing her of being a moderator.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-16   14:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TrappedInMd (#18)

A few years ago her only computer died (at least that's what she claimed) during a thon and she said she had to get one at Best Buy.

Oh, my. The sheer drama!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   14:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Hank Rearden (#17)

One has to wonder what it will take for the sheeple there to call bullshit on the whole Griftathon scam.

It's like Amway. Even after everyone actually knows its a scam, they stay with it because it is a participation cult and many of the freepers have no social life away from FR.

Televangelists prey on the same kind of shut-ins.

This is why the format and features change so rarely. Any change is traumatic for the long-time cult members.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-16   14:54:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#0) (Edited)

After being down for almost two days, they finally found the technical skills to put this online:

Down
Free Republic is down for hardware maintenance. See our Facebook Group for more information.



That's worth $1,000/day operating revenue, isn't it? And it's not down for 'maintenance', it's down because "the hard drive" (get it? THE hard drive) went blooey.

How much does Carbonite or a decent RAID system cost these days?

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-16   21:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: All (#0) (Edited)

Man, these guys are sucked in deep - open the Pinned Post reply threads to witness the ignorant bootlicking.

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough; they need a SPECIAL fundraiser to set up a server that actually has some redundancy. Others say it can't be helped: John lives in a different city from the server. Guess that's decreed by God and carved in stone as The Way It Must Be Forevermore.

So that third of a mil must be going to breadsticks now. You have to hand it to them; the Robinsons are masters of the long con. It's really something to see happening these days, in real time. People still fall for things.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-17   13:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Hank Rearden (#23)

How much does Carbonite or a decent RAID system cost these days?

Your mistake is thinking that a rational technical solution is actually desired by FR management. Not so.

If they fixed these problems, what would happen to their Griftathon outages?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   15:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Hank Rearden, A K A Stone (#24)

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough; they need a SPECIAL fundraiser to set up a server that actually has some redundancy.

Another good indicator that this is a cult, not just a chat board.

They do display a lot of cultish behavior.

Almost as much as AKA gets here at LF. LOL

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   15:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Tooconservative (#26)

Some of the sheeple are saying a third of a million per year isn't enough;

Stumpy hasn't raked in that much cash in over a dozen years...

I doubt if the Snookerthon even makes 1/4 what they say it does... probably less than that...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-17   17:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Willie Green, TooConservative, A K A Stone (#27)

Are you suggesting we have a "Flameathon" here?

redleghunter  posted on  2017-05-17   18:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Willie Green (#27)

Stumpy hasn't raked in that much cash in over a dozen years...

There were always those who doubted that they ever actually did raise that much money. But you'll never know since you can't see their books.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   19:39:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: redleghunter, A K A Stone, Hank Rearden, Willie Green (#28)

Are you suggesting we have a "Flameathon" here?

I think Stone should go big. Demand that LF's members donate at least a half-million. Quarterly.

    ; )

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-17   19:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Hank Rearden, *free republic and JR watch* (#0)

Update FR still down, check out Jim Robinson complaining about lack of $$ on the FR Facebook site to explain why FR is still down.

kumano Akachan 21 hrs
Why are we down so long?
There should be backup servers and backup storage and redundant servers and streaming real-time database duplication. I don't understand this long down time.
Does anyone know what is going on, and why we don't see updates here? I work in IT and I know the FR Gods know IT and programming, so experiencing this long void is really disheartening.

Jim Robinson reply
We're old fashioned, stubborn and dumb. Too dumb to realize you can't run an operation like this with no capital, no professional management and no expert tech staff. It's just me (an old beat-up, over-the-hill programmer) my two sons and a bookkeeper as partners. John is our entire tech staff. We do the best we can with what the Good Lord provides

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   10:48:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: TrappedInMd (#31)

It's just me (an old beat-up, over-the-hill programmer) my two sons and a bookkeeper as partners. John is our entire tech staff.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-18   11:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: TrappedInMd (#31) (Edited)

John was the entire tech staff 20 years ago, and his skillset has obviously not improved in all that time. Many utter crashes, still no ability to edit postings.

I guess they just can't afford a grand or two out of their $29,000 per MONTH revenue stream to spend on the actual business model for redundancy. And it's not the Good Lord who dumps that cash into their laps. Jesus, Hopalong sounds like Jim and Tammy Faye.

Couldn't even slap in a RAID system, oh no. And they still whine about having to drive to San Jose to check out problems because apparently Hopalong's trailer park still doesn't have electricity and Internet access. Can't possibly have an on-call real tech on retainer or find a closer location with electrical outlets.

Their breadstick bill must be outrageous.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: TrappedInMd (#31) (Edited)

Jim Robinson: Was going to post a link to our online budget breakdown, but unfortunately, it's a no go right now. Anyway, you are basically correct. Most of the money raised goes to cover operating expenses (including salaries and overhead) and a relatively smaller amount for capital expenditures. Actually, we have very little capital available for capital investments..

Po', po' pitiful me.......
It's the breadstick bill.



Jim Robinson: The funny (unfortunate) thing about operating without capital is we never seem to have the time and money available to invest in and build the very best in server systems. But we always make the time and find the money required to fix it when it breaks. Also, I think we're talking more about time here than money.

Again, $29,000 per month. People are even posting to him links to RAID systems on Newegg for cheap, but his response is more excuses for being lazy and incompetent and having no help. I've always build redundancy into my various business computer systems; this is basic to corporate survival. These days, the cost to implement redundancy is almost zero in the big scheme of things.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Hank Rearden (#33)

John was the entire tech staff 20 years ago, and his skillset has obviously not improved in all that time.

Twenty years on the Internet is a looooooooooong time...

FreeRepublic is obsolete.... can't keep up with the competition...
too many alternatives available where people don't have to put up with Jimmy's paranoid tyranny...

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-05-18   12:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Willie Green (#35)

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

And sheeple still line up to be fleeced; read the bootlicking replies for proof.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   12:37:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Willie Green, Hank Rearden (#35)

FreeRepublic is obsolete.... can't keep up with the competition... too many alternatives available where people don't have to put up with Jimmy's paranoid tyranny...

He's just squeezing FR for the last penny until it dies...

How do we know it really goes down?

I recall on LP many just believed he does this during fundraisers to get freepers to donate more

Frank Robinson on FR Facebook:
I've seen several of these kinds of posts in the last few days, and I'm pretty much sick of them. Jim Robinson (no relation) has, for many years, furnished a platform for conservative news/views, at NO CHARGE. No annoying ads. As a physically handicapped person, he has figured out a way to make a living, without receiving government handouts. He is to be applauded. He, and his son, John, provides us with an addictive outlet for our joys and frustrations with government. He is a true conservative, in every sense of the word. Now, some people on here are yapping about "donations", and "freepathons"...my quest us, "why?". He doesn't charge you ANYTHING to sign up, and use FR. If any of you naysayers think you can do it better, then buy you a server, and get started. Jim and John know what they're doing. I've been on the board since 1998, and I can count on one hand the number of serious outages in all that time. If this outage upsets you, then find another website that pleases you more...go there, and stay there. You're acting like petulant democrats not getting their way. If you don't want to "donate", then DON'T...FR will be just fine without you grudges participation.good work work jim/John, we appreciate you both.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   12:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: TrappedInMd (#37)

How do we know it really goes down?

Oh, it's definitely down: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/freerepublic.com.html and Johnny had to race off to San Jose to examine the hard drive and carefully carry it back to the trailer park like a Faberge egg to do incantations over it or something.

Much easier than just installing new hardware with built-in RAID, I suppose. It's only been 20 years of screwups; they're still learning.

But at least a few brave sheeple are posting on the FB site, reminding people that it always goes down during high-stress periods, too - like election nights, and are postulating why it needs to be that way given the amount of revenue they receive.

That would be $29,000 per month, remember.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   13:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Hank Rearden (#38)

Oh, it's definitely down: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/freerepublic.com.html and Johnny had to race off to San Jose to examine the hard drive and carefully carry it back to the trailer park like a Faberge egg to do incantations over it or something.

I been using isitdownrightnow.

What I really meant is how do we know he's not bringing it down on purpose.

TrappedInMd  posted on  2017-05-18   13:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: TrappedInMd (#39)

What I really meant is how do we know he's not bringing it down on purpose.

For a day, day and a half, maybe - to stimulate the sheeple.

It's been about four days now - that's way too long, now people start getting used to being without it and are wondering why it's so crappy for so much money.

If this is intentional, he's overplayed his hand. That doesn't mean he won't recover the grift to at least 95% of what it was; bootlicks persist.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2017-05-18   13:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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