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Title: Macron nixes French national anthem & walks out to EU SONG after win: ‘I’ll defend Europe!’
Source: Geller Report
URL Source: http://pamelageller.com/2017/05/mac ... ng-win-ill-defend-europe.html/
Published: May 9, 2017
Author: Vincent Wood.
Post Date: 2017-05-09 11:11:06 by HomerBohn
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Views: 8852
Comments: 39

We surrender! Kill the men and rape all the women! EU and NWO forever?

‘I’ll defend Europe!’ Macron snubs French national anthem & walks out to EU song after win

EMMANUEL Macron neglected his own nation’s musical emblem as he walked out to deliver his victory speech, instead heralding his victory with the EU’s Anthem of Europe.

In the past French politicians have announced their victory to the sound of La Marseillaise, which has stood as their anthem for hundreds of years.

But Mr Macron, who has gained support from major European figures including Jean-Claude Juncker and Angela Merkel, instead blasted the anthem of Europe ‘Ode to Joy’ from the speakers as he waved to adoring crowds of voters outside the Louvre museum.

The show of allegiance with the faltering European project was condemned by the losing Front National, who have fought to remove France from the crumbling European bloc.

Speaking to the public he said: “I’ll defend France, I’ll defend Europe, and will strengthen links between Europe and its people.”

And while he later sang the French anthem with the crowd at the end of his speech, French voters on Twitter were quick to criticise his decision as a sign of European subservience.

Written in 1824 by German Ludwig van Beethoven and based on a poem by countryman Friedrich Schiller in 1785, Ode to Joy was used as a stand in national anthem for Unified Team of Germany in the Olympics from 1956 to 1968, and later taken on by the EU in 1985.SNP MPs whistled then later sung the tune as a protest against Brexit in the House of Commons during the third reading of the Great Repeal Bill.It comes as British officials attempt to predict how the Europhile president will approach a Brexit deal.Mr Macron is a centrist populist who stands in favour of the European Union and has been a clear opponent of Brexit, branding it a “crime” in his manifesto.

The show of allegiance with the EU was condemned by Front National

On the campaign trail, he said that Britain would face “consequences” for leaving the EU and promised to take a tough stance in the divorce negotiations.In February, Mr Macron said: “If your Government decides to organise a Brexit, I will be pretty tough on it.“We have to preserve the rest of the European Union and not to convey the message that you can decide to leave without any consequences. ”He favours a hard Brexit which would leave Britain outside of the single market and protect the interests of EU members.

French voters on twitter were quick to criticize his decision as a sign of European subservience.

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#1. To: HomerBohn (#0)

Western civilization is dying out everywhere - Europe, the US, Japan - everywhere - due to cratered birth rates, due to birth control.

The Pope was right all of those years ago. The Pill was the poison that killed our civilization.

Given that nobody - literally nobody - ever notices that or says it (I'm a nobody) - tells me that there will be no halt to the decline.

The future of the USA is to become Los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos - a Spanish-speaking extension of Latin America. Canada will eventually follow suit after that. El Canada.

The future of Europe is Sharia 2070.

The future of Japan is decay and immense suffering, and eventual repopulation by other races.

The West has come to a dead end, and it isn't a matter of economics and policies, but penises, pussies and pills.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-09   15:20:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

It would be impossible to refute your comments!

Japan, however, is a one-race nation. Few could be accepted into the nation as citizens. Three Japanese prime minsters have commented that the problem with America is the slaves that became citizens. They stated that the negro population is a drag on American society.

That being said, diversity is the most important ingredient in our national make-up.....right?

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-05-09   15:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: HomerBohn (#2)

Japan is mono-racial now, and is now the fastest dying major civilization on earth. Property values are collapsing outside of the major cities because houses, whole villages, are being abandoned. There are 1 million fewer people in Japan than there were 5 years ago. This will accelerate, because the average age is rapidly creeping past the age of female fertility.

Fewer people means fewer consumers, driving the economy down further. Also, the Japanese are the longest-lived major civilization on earth. There are more people over 65 than under 15. Which means that the ratio of old, sick retirees to workers is moving towards 1:1.

That in turn means that every worker's salary will have to provide for himself and also be taxed at a level that will provide the entire living costs of an elderly person, including medical, housing - everything.

That will absolutely crush the young and cause them to have fewer children.

Indeed, the high cost of living is ALREADY the reason that the Japanese have few children.

Japan is a traditional society - practically the model that American Christian conservatives want: they do not have babies out of wedlock. They do not have any appreciable immigration.

And the net result is the death of a civilization.

Japan has three choices, just three, not four or five.

The Japanese can relax their beliefs about traditional marriage and have a lot of kids however, and provide financial support for that - they would consider this to be utterly immoral.

They can open the doors to immigration, and thereby lose the cultural essence of Japan. This is contrary to their cultural beliefs about themselves.

Or they can resort to socialistic wealth redistribution, transferring substantial wealth and security to married couples who have babies, making it easy for a women to stay home and raise children - in a reasonably sized and reasonably priced home, while the man works reasonable hours. This means taxing the society and redistributing the wealth to subsidize childbearing families.

But that is contrary to their economic beliefs.

So, they will either compromise on their moral beliefs, or they will compromise on their cultural beliefs, or they will compromise on their economic beliefs.

If, instead, they choose the "purist" line and refuse to compromise on any of those things, they will have chosen the inevitable fourth way: poverty, the further collapse of the birth rate, a more and more rapidly-aging population, and a demographic death-spiral that will leave them with abandoned cities and strangling levels of government and taxes to support a dying and non-productive population of old people.

The best of the three choices in most people's opinion is to just open up to immigration and sacrifice the culture.

In my opinion, redistributive economics is preferable, as the culture is worth saving.

The easiest thing to do, though, is to just die out and let future generations suffer, so that's what I expect they will do.

In France in the 1800s we saw this. France was the first revolutionary country in Europe, and with the redistribution of the lands that were formerly the aristocrats, the French were the first fully middle class civilization, with the highest standard of living in Europe.

As a result, the birth rate cratered. When Napoleon left office in 1815, France had 37 million people and Germany as a whole had about 11 million, while Britain had about 8 million. By 1914, 100 years later, the French population had grown by only 1 million people in 100 years, to 38 million. The British had grown to 40 million, and the Germans had grown to nearly 90 million. That was why Germany was able to overrun France in 1870, and again in 1940 - the population differential was too great, giving the Germans unanswerable economic and military power.

Nuclear weapons have ended the age when a major country can simply overrun and occupy another major country. Nobody will force their way into Japan. In a way, this makes the Japanese future bleaker, for in the past, the depopulation crisis MEANT a military crisis and that could spur a country to make compromises to try to boost the birth rate.

But now, there is really no danger of Japan being overrun by anybody, so there is nothing to push the Japanese with fear.

Japan will sink into a slow malaise, get older and feebler, and the needs of the elderly will strangle out the dreams of the young. They will not change their moral code. They will not change their view on immigration. And they will not redistribute wealth to strongly incentivize childbearing.

Instead, Japan will rot and wither, it will age, depopulate, and sink into a spiral of impoverishment and economic slavery of the young to serve the needs of the old. Japan's future is grim.

This is because they have three inflexible principles that, when added together, are a poison that will certainly kill off the civilization.

You cannot maintain moral purity in reproduction AND cultural purity AND a very high degree of wealth inequality that makes it too hard for the young to scale the wall. The result will be what Japan has ahead of it: the setting sun. It's self-inflicted.

There are two "right" answers: either open up to immigration and dilute your culture, or understand that survival requires wealth redistribution and get on with it now, before the situation exacerbates.

They won't. So they will inevitably suffer and die.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-09   17:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Japanese citizens had forgotten how to procreate.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-05-10   6:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

And the net result is the death of a civilization.

They are not christian. They are not dead but still there. Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions and millions and millions.

The millions comment is totally accurate. They have that many groups of millions of people.

They aren't fucking dying out.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:04:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

There are two "right" answers: either open up to immigration and dilute your culture, or understand that survival requires wealth redistribution and get on with it now, before the situation exacerbates.

Bullshit leftist thief propaganda.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

The easiest thing to do, though, is to just die out and let future generations suffer, so that's what I expect they will do.

lol they aren't dying out. Never will.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Or they can resort to socialistic wealth redistribution, transferring substantial wealth and security to married couples who have babies,

That is the answer of someone who doesn't pray or have faith in God.

The devil is the thief not God.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:07:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: HomerBohn (#4)

They have not forgotten. Plenty of porn comes out of Japan, and the Japanese sleazy side of life is quite notorious. The Japanese have lots of sex, they just don't have babies.

In this, they are no different from Europeans and Americans.

We all have the pill. Sex is separated from childbearing. People have sex, but they don't have children.

Why? Economics. Young men and women do not think they can support a family in the current economic climate. And they are right. They have a good bead on their finances.

So, there are two things that can be done to prevent catastrophic depopulation: (1) Open the borders to a great deal of immigration. America has a positive birth rate overall because of Latino immigration. That's where the birth rate comes from. The white American fertility rate is 1.8, on a par with Europe, ahead of Japan's 1.2, but far behind the 2.1 needed to maintain a stable population. OR (2) Redistribute wealth from the older, accumulated wealth to the younger who can start families. Subsidize housing, subsidize food, subsidize schooling, pay much more for labor, so people can work less, so a woman can stay at home with her kids and have more of them.

Those are the only two things that will work. People aren't having babies because of money. And the system is not changing naturally to alter that. The population is getting older and older, and less and less fertile.

The Japanese, and white Americans, and Europeans, all still know how to have babies, and they practice at it a lot, but they don't have them because they can't afford it, because of the structures of their economies. To save the races - White European and Japanese, respectively - there has to be a redistributive change of the economic structure. Mass immigration will up the birth rate and prevent depopulation, but at the price of merely handing the country over to new people who are willing to live in much greater poverty and still have kids.

The only way to save the Whites and the Japanese is to make the lives of young parents easier, and the only way to do that is to give them more money. Since the things that young people do are not considered as value as the knowledge and skills of older people, that means wealth redistribution, by government, through taxation and regulation, from the older and wealthier, to the younger and fertile, so they will have more babies.

That rubs against the belief systems of the Japanese and the Americans and the Europeans. I don't personally think there will be any reform like that outside of Scandinavia. I think that the problem of infertility, aging and population replacement happens so slowly that people will cling to their beliefs about money until the tipping point is reached and the population is nearly majority immigrant, and then it will be politically impossible to redistribute in a way that encourages White reproduction.

Japan won't allow the immigration, so they are simply going to crater into poverty and the enslavement of the young to serve the old. There will be redistribution in the end, through Social Security, but from the young to the old, further crushing the birth rate.

People as societies love money and sex more than life and family, and you reap what you sow. Pleasure in the present no future. Because Japan doesn't have immigration, the rapidly accelerating decline is now visible. The decline is masked in America and Europe by mass immigration, such that Americans who are hard-boiled racists, who don't want to see a Latino future with Spanish language as the dominant one, will still simply refuse to see that whites in America are also in demographic decline, like the Japanese are. We are further up the curve, so it is not precipitous yet. Even American racists won't change their minds about economics, however, because they don't see the depopulation spiral. They will stand pat, rail ineffectively against immigration, refuse to permit redistribution of wealth to encourage white childbearing. And as time progresses America will go further down the curve, like Japan has, for the same reasons. But because of immigration and high Latino fertility, we will never see absolute population decline. We will, rather, see the very rapid replacement of the White majority with a Latin Hispanic majority. In Europe it is the same, except that the new future majority is Arabic and Muslim. In any case, Americans - even the most racist - are very wedded to an economic system, just as the Japanese are. And just like the Japanese, they refuse, and will continue to refuse, to admit that their race is going to die out BECAUSE OF the rigidity of that system, and its inevitable tendency to concentrate wealth in the older segment of the population. Without redistribution, the future of the Whites is to be minorities in Latin and Arabic lands. The future of the Japanese is destitution and slavery.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   7:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

Redistribute wealth from the older, accumulated wealth to the younger who can start families.

Wealth isn't distriputed you moron. It is fucking earned. You can't RE distribute something that was never distributed in the first place. So quite your new speak bullshit.

Just come out and admit that you don't believe God answers prayers. That in your opinion he is impotent. That you have to STEAL stuff from what others earned to give to someone else to be successful. That is straight out of the pits of hell.

You're a communist light. You don't teach christian doctrine but wealth theft and not working and being fruitful. The doctrine of demons.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:16:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

and then it will be politically impossible to redistribute in a way that encourages White reproduction.

Fucking thief rhetoric. Not christian.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-10   7:18:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Just come out and admit that you don't believe God answers prayers.

You're a communist light. You don't teach christian doctrine but wealth theft and not working and being fruitful. The doctrine of demons.

I broke my neck in a lake as a kid and was paralyzed, and God intervened and saved my life on the spot. I have spoken with him directly.

Your idol is money.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   10:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#11)

Fucking thief rhetoric.

Worse than calling me "Raqa".

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   10:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Wealth isn't distriputed you moron. It is fucking earned. You can't RE distribute something that was never distributed in the first place. So quite your new speak bullshit.

You will rage. You will live. You will age. You will die. And you will discover how very wrong you were, how abusive, how evil.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   10:23:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Western civilization is dying out everywhere - Europe, the US, Japan - everywhere - due to cratered birth rates, due to birth control.

I have to differ on you with why western society is dying out. Its the over burdensome government that wears out couples so they do not want to have kids or to tired to have sex. I also think this is part of why western society is so big on porn. They would rather watch than to do which is crazy. I remember growing up playing sports was the big thing and now its all about watching 1% play while the rest just watch. The voyeur society.

Government is and always will be the biggest problem to the people. Its the necessary evil that must be chained down so tight as to never get free to ruin lives. This means social programs be removed so people must fight to survive and participate in the betterment of society itself. Crony capitalism must be destroyed.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-10   11:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Justified (#15)

People are having sex. They are using birth control to not get pregnant. This is because of economic pressure upon them - they don't think they can afford to have kids yet, so they don't. They delay. Aging reduces female fertility, and years on the pill exacerbates the issue.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   11:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

People are having sex.

Not really. Kids are stilling living at home not getting married watching porn on their computers.

People are not kicking out 8-11 children like they use to. Thats a good thing. 2-4 children in a modern society is just fine. Children are not dying off like they did in the old days where half the children would die by 18. We don't live in an agrarian society and need 10 or so children to run the farm. Children are running wild in the city because the parents are out working to keep the family going.

The delay in having children is due to western society beating bread winners down till it takes 2 people to earn enough to survive. So we are trying to get better educated and holding off from having children so we don't end up on the poor side of town where your just about write the child off. The burden that socialist policies have put on society has made it impossible to have children. Thats why all the shitty people getting all the welfare off the backs of hard working people are having all the babies because they do not have to work or be responsible for them. Its a cycle of destruction set forth by progressives without understanding the consequences of their actions and who are not held for their destructive ways because all they have to do is claim I was trying to make life better for people!

Justified  posted on  2017-05-10   14:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Justified (#17)

The delay in having children is due to western society beating bread winners down till it takes 2 people to earn enough to survive. So we are trying to get better educated and holding off from having children so we don't end up on the poor side of town where your just about write the child off.

That's true. But people ARE having sex. They're just using birth control to not have the children that would naturally come from the sex.

You ascribe all of the cost of this to socialism.

Take a look back at what we've spent our money on. Is it socialism? Is it our expenses on education and scraps for the poor that have broken us?

No, it's war. Our worldwide empire has broken us, just as the Soviets' broke them.

But I think we're at a line of demarcation of religious strength, so I don't expect we will be able to resolve this.

In fact, when I make my longer term prediction, I look at the reality that people do not change their minds politically, no matter what.

That is why I believe that the era of predominance of the white race is passing. Our economic, political and sexual beliefs are killing us. In the battle for land and resources, the more fecund end up living in the land, and the less numerous end up fertilizing it.

You and I, and millions like each of us, will never, ever agree on the cause of our decline. I know it was war and imperialism. You know that it was socialism. Our prescriptions, then, for fixing the issue are diametrically opposed.

Which means there will be no political agreement, ever. The same is true of Europe. The same is true of Japan. Life is good ENOUGH now that we are not willing to make serious structural changes, and we do not, cannot, and will not agree on what those changes will be.

Which means we won't make them. Which means that the USA will become a Hispanic-majority country and our grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren will speak Spanish as their primary language.

It means that Europe will become Muslim.

And it means that Japan will become seriously depopulated and quite poor.

We cannot agree now, when there is time to change course. So we won't, and that makes the fate of our civilizations inevitable.

A Spanish future doesn't bother me. In fact, the Americas will probably benefit from mass migration of European whites to America, as the Old Continent is lost to Islam.

We will also benefit from the immigration of young Japanese people who decide they do not want to be slaves to the elderly.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-10   18:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: HomerBohn (#0)

“If your Government decides to organise a Brexit, I will be pretty tough on it.“We have to preserve the rest of the European Union and not to convey the message that you can decide to leave without any consequences. ”

Deys jist to much ob dat "freedom stuff" going round! Who dese peep-pulls tink day are dat day can be going round making up dey own minds,'n shit?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   16:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Vicomte13 (#1)

Western civilization is dying out everywhere - Europe, the US, Japan - everywhere - due to cratered birth rates, due to birth control.

Wrong. It's happening,but it's happening because no one has the balls to keep non-whites out,and they breed like rabbits.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   16:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

Fewer people means fewer consumers, driving the economy down further. Also, the Japanese are the longest-lived major civilization on earth. There are more people over 65 than under 15. Which means that the ratio of old, sick retirees to workers is moving towards 1:1.

Blah,blah,blah.

The Japanese will be fine because labor is no longer critical to any economy,and fewer people means a bigger slice of the pie for those who are there.

Anybody that doesn't think the globalists plan a big kill-off once they are firmly in control is delusional.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: HomerBohn (#4)

Japanese citizens had forgotten how to procreate.

No,they were just so thickly packed into tiny apartments about the size of a refrigerator box they didn't have children because there was no room for them.

Once the population stabilizes at a more reasonable level where there will be more of everything for the people left. Given their lack of room to expand,they will probably end up living a "replacement population birth rate" life.

Nobody wants to talk about it in public because of the religious loons and their church masters that lust after the donations and the political power,but we should have started eliminating 3rd world immigrants decades ago,as well as started demanding mandatory sterilizations for welfare mothers. If a mother doesn't want her ability to get pregnant put on hold,she gets no free government housing,food,clothing,medical care,etc,etc,etc.

Sooner or later,and my prediction is within the next 20 years we are going to have birth limits right here in the US. We will have no practical choice because the labor jobs are all disappearing,and large numbers of unemployed young males are a threat to the survival of any society.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#6)

There are two "right" answers: either open up to immigration and dilute your culture, or understand that survival requires wealth redistribution and get on with it now, before the situation exacerbates.

Bullshit leftist thief propaganda.

EXACTLY!

With a lower population there will be no need for wealth redistribution because there will be jobs available to those who want them.

This ain't the 19th century. The jobs coming "on the line" now require some education and some specialized knowledge. Yeah,there will still be a need for fast food workers and the like,but most of the jobs will be technical jobs. Even house building is a technical job these days as homes are a lot more complex than the basic shelter they used to be.

The will also always be the poor and the needy who can't provide for themselves for a variety of reasons. That's why religions get tax deductions. Let the various religions take care of them.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

So, there are two things that can be done to prevent catastrophic depopulation:

No,there is only ONE thing that needs to be done,recognize that there "catastrophic depopulation" is a artificial problem created by the Catholic Church primarily because their wealth is based on donations. Fewer people equals fewer donations.

We (Americans) needed immigrants right up to recent times because we had a lot of manual work that needed to be done,and a relatively small population available to do that work. We don't need and can't employ the large percentage of the population we needed decades to centuries ago because those labor jobs no longer exist.

Like it or not,we are heading towards a world where smaller populations will be the goal because there just won't be enough labor jobs to support a large population of unskilled workers.

One good example of this is the auto industry. Most of the work done in the assembly plants these days are done by machines,and now "Smart robots" are starting to come on line that will be able to replace most of the workers still working the few technical jobs where a human has been needed.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Vicomte13 (#16)

People are having sex. They are using birth control to not get pregnant. This is because of economic pressure upon them - they don't think they can afford to have kids yet, so they don't.

And there ya have it.

Given that even YOU seem to recognize this basic truth,what makes you think 3rd world immigrants having children by the litter is going to do anything to improve this situation?

A smaller population will put less pressure/competition on the housing market,as well as the job market,and people who know they can marry and have children as well as a house and safe place to raise those children will start having them.

However,people today don't have the pressure put on them to have large families today like they did 50+ years ago because the Catholic Church has much less influence today than in the past,and because people are more educated and more knowledgeable today than in the past. Yeah,a few might even still have 5 or 6 kids because they like kids,but most will stop after 2 or 3.

Overpopulation is the monster lurking in the corner that no one wants to mention.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:37:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Justified (#17)

The delay in having children is due to western society beating bread winners down till it takes 2 people to earn enough to survive.

It's GOT to me noted that a lot of that is due more to greed and the desire for status than it is real need. When you figure the added expenses for day care,a extra (usually new) car,new wardrobe,etc,etc,etc,most of the time the wife is working to pay for her lifestyle,not to provide for the family or the children. I personally knew women living in cities that quit their full-time jobs to work parttime while their children were in school who claimed they ended up with happier lives and what seemed to be the same amount of money after deducting what they were paying for a new car,new clothes, and day care.

I see and hear people bitching about the cost of living all the time that have a 75-100 thousand dollar fishing boat parked in their driveways they use a half-dozen times a year,and a 100k + motorhome or 25 k travel trailer they pay storage on that they use maybe twice a year. The husband is usually driving a new 4x4 truck that never leaves the pavement,and the wife is usually driving a new expensive SUV.

I know a local couple that were living in a mobile home before his parents died and they inherited the parents home,all their assets,and their life insurance policies. Practically the first thing they did was have a new 500k McMansion build in an exclusive subdivision with a water view. They also quit their jobs so they could supervise the work,and work on starting their own business careers. Within a year the mansion burned down in a mysterious fire,they collected the insurance,and are back to working again and living in a doublewide mobile home on a half-acre lot. The new 1 ton 4x4 pu is gone,the new travel trailer they bought to tow with the truck is gone,and so is the ski boat with 30 thousand dollars of Yamaha outboard engines on the back. BTW,nobody I know has ever seen either of them even trying to ski.

For some reason this couple could never afford to have children. Gee,I wonder why?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   17:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete (#25)

what makes you think 3rd world immigrants having children by the litter is going to do anything to improve this situation?

I don't. My solution isn't immigration, it is economic incentives for the natives to have more children. You get more of what you subsidize.

I said there were two solutions, immigration, or incentivization. I don't like the immigration solution, though I suppose when the whites want to flee Europe we can welcome that mass immigration, as it will but us more time as a civilization to figure things out.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-11   19:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Vicomte13 (#27)

I suppose when the whites want to flee Europe we can welcome that mass immigration

Why would we want immigrants here that wouldn't even fight for their home country?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-11   22:34:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: sneakypete (#28)

Why would we want immigrants here that wouldn't even fight for their home country?

Fight? You mean immigrants who won't put away The Pill and take off the condoms and have kids?

We're not fighting for our own country either. They're losing theirs, and we're losing ours.

The experiment in consequence-free sex had consequences after all: the whites are everywhere losing their countries to people who do reproduce in sufficient numbers.

Neither Europeans nor Americans have figured that out yet, and the time is running out on the clock. Europe is lost. Demographically it COULD be saved, if people changed their behavior now, but it WON'T be saved because people are not even thinking about changing their behavior. So those countries are being overrun by Muslims, both immigrants and native-born. Europe is becoming a progressively worse place to live.

The people who get out and come to America, European whites, will be aware that they are leaving their homelands forever because they lost them. America will be their last hope of a decent civilization. You think THOSE people are going to be keen on letting Latino immigration do here what Arab immigration did there?

The white world is not ready yet to step up and redistribute so as to encourage white births. They're not ready in Europe, and they're not ready here. What we need is TIME. And if our immigration is pouring in of white refugees from Europe - modern people without medieval religions - they can easily integrate and swell the ranks of European- (which is to say white) Americans.

That will dramatically dilute the power of both Latino and Black racial politics, and demographically reduce their margin of society.

It buys time, a lot of time - a century or more.

And in that time the illogic of Muslim civilization will destroy the economic power and vigor of Europe. Our chief economic competitor will cease to be. We will become relatively stronger from their diminution, and we will become much whiter because of immigration - a reversal of the pattern of the past 60 years.

Minority politics in America will be shoved downward into a reduced-share asterisk, and the same forces that want to hold open the door to Mexicans will instead want to hold open the door to Poles, Greeks, Romanians, Germans, Dutch, Danes, French, Spaniards, Italians, the Irish, Swedes, etc.

That's why.

Nobody is fighting the cause of our decline. And nobody will for a generation or more. We need to buy time. We're not going to successfully cut off the immigration. And even if we do, we're not going to cut off the much higher Latino birth rate. We're not going to redistribute to encourage white births. We're simply going to gradually lose our country just exactly like the Europeans are losing theirs.

But they're losing it to something really vile. Latin America is not vile. Americans are not going to go anywhere. But Europeans will, to get away from Islam, if they can. America should be the refuge. Do that, and you will reinflate white America with white immigrants, and give us the time, and one last chance, to get it right.

Or not. I myself don't care about whiteness. I don't find Spanish to be inferior to English as a language. I prefer Latin religion to Protestantism. So essentially I'm trying to solve a problem for you guys.

I know you guys want to talk about guns and fighting, literally attacking and driving Latinos out. You will never be permitted to do that, not ever.

Redistributing to encourage white birth is unacceptable. Trump's Wall is never going to get built, and even if part does and immigration goes down for awhile. there will continue to be hundreds of thousands pouring in (a "75% reduction" means that we go from 1 million illegals to 250,000, still enough to keep tilting the scale. And Latinos IN America will continue to vastly outbreed the whites.

The slide towards a Central American future is well underway, and nobody is proposing anything REALISTIC to stop it. I proposed two things: redistribution to bring up the white birth rate, and opening up to European immigration.

Both are unacceptable to the Right, judging by reactions on this chat board.

So, the problem is intolerable to you guys, but the solutions are intolerable. The fantasy of expelling millions by force remains, but the bulk of people - including people like me - will never let that happen. Politically we will stop it, and we'll stop it by force if we have to.

So, there's no solution. Therefore, learn Spanish. That's the future, as there is no will among the Whites to do anything to stop it.

So be it.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-12   6:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

The white world is not ready yet to step up and redistribute

When are you going to read the Bible and get it through your pea sized brain (oh your ego isn't pea sized though) that your favorite word "redistribution" is thievery. It is not christian. It never was. It never will be. It is satanic. It is evil. You worship mammon and want to take peoples money thet they did earn through their labor and give it to dead beat lazy asses who are to much of pussies to work.

That isn't biblical. Show us that in Gods word. You can't because it isn't there. You ignore the clear teachings of the Bible and instead go with godless atheism where you have to steal to keep someone else happy. That isn't what the Bible teaches. I give you a hard time because you are arrogant. Despite your arrogance I see good in you. You are just so arrogant you can't see that you do NOT follow scripture on this thief thing you want to do.

Thievery is not the answer. Turning to god praying and asking for forgiveness is the answer. You never offer that solution. You know the biblical one. You just say we have to take something from this person and give it to that person. Satanic thievery socialism.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-12   7:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

But Europeans will, to get away from Islam, if they can. America should be the refuge. Do that, and you will reinflate white America with white immigrants, and give us the time, and one last chance, to get it right.

They aren't going anywhere. You're just making stuff up. You sound like interpreter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-12   7:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

The fantasy of expelling millions by force remains, but the bulk of people - including people like me - will never let that happen.

So you are a liberal open borders democrat. Should have known when you said you would pick pro child murder candidate over born again christian Ted Cruz.

By their fruits ye shall know them.

Thievery. Open borders. Abortion is ok if it is to defeat born again chritian because he isn't for redistributing the fruits of good peoples labor and giving it to murdering democrats.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-12   7:04:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

I prefer Latin religion to Protestantism. So essentially I'm trying to solve a problem for you guys.

You sound like Nancy Pelosi giving Jesus advice.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-12   7:05:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

opening up to European immigration.

Finally a little sanity in your poat.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-12   7:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Vicomte13 (#29)

Fight? You mean immigrants who won't put away The Pill and take off the condoms and have kids?

No,and you know that's not what I meant. Or should,anyhow.

I mean chase the MoFo's out of their country at gunpoint. Mass deportations,and refusal to allow any more to enter.

This is an issue of cultural survival and the death of a people. The answer to this problem is to not pump out more little brain-washed Catholics,but ban Muslims and Islam.

Islam declared war on the west centuries ago,and that war still stands. The only difference is they are the only ones still fighting to win. The west,thanks to the international bankers that profit from both the money and the political power that perpetual war brings them,have no interest in winning this war because it would cut into their profits and their power.

These people need to be ordered to stop immediately,or suffer the consequences,which SHOULD be seizure of all their wealth and property,and public hangings.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-12   9:45:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone, Vicomte13 (#33)

You sound like Nancy Pelosi giving Jesus advice.

Catholicism,like Islam has ALWAYS been the enemy of freedom,and the goal of both is to control the world as a religious police state.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-12   9:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vicomte13 (#18)

Take a look back at what we've spent our money on. Is it socialism? Is it our expenses on education and scraps for the poor that have broken us?

Simple answer YES.

Its crazy people thinking they can end poverty or whatever by making more poverty through taxing people more to pay for people who are just happy to be poor and screw everyone around them while doing drugs and stealing. Just look at the innercity to see the damage done. Less educated but we pay per child the most of any nation in the world. We pay them not to be a family so we have the highest out of wedlock families in the world. We excuse them for being animals because they are poor or nonwhite but nonwhites are in jail at the highest rates in the world and no its not whities fault its was their own fault.

Communist/socialist(includes communist Christians) are killing America from the inside by demanding we take more in taxes and give to those that do not deserve it. It's so bad that 50% of budget goes to stealing from the productive and giving it to the worthless to buy votes or make people feel better about themselves. Military budget is only about $500-$600 billion out of nearly +$3.5 trillion federal budget and that doesn't start to count city and state welfare.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-13   10:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#26)

Yes there are huge number of selfish people in the world. Most people live in standard houses and are not more than one or two big problems from being pushed into the poor side of town. To me this is why so many are willing to live on the bubble because who would want to live in a gang infested drug infested hell hole where they are really the minority?

I would be happy living in a 50K house paid for but lets face it any thing I do to improve on the property would be like waving a flag saying come rob me. Drive by thugs looking for someone to mess with and police who really do not want to be there because of the BLM crap pushed by communist and anarchist groups. Which when you think about it almost all America's problems come directly from progressive, communist and anarchist groups. If you eliminate those groups America would be a great place to live! Not saying it would be perfect but as good as it gets in this world.

Justified  posted on  2017-05-14   11:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Justified (#37)

Simple answer YES.

The number one expense of government in America is public education. Shall we end it?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-05-14   19:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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