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Title: Police Union Sues Toy Gun Maker For Not Doing Enough To Keep Cleveland Cops From Killing 12-Year-Old Boys
Source: TechDirt
URL Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2 ... killing-12-year-old-boys.shtml
Published: May 5, 2017
Author: Tim Cushing
Post Date: 2017-05-07 11:21:57 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 5314
Comments: 12

from the who-will-it-sue-now-that-it's-shot-itself-in-the-foot? dept

In the world of law enforcement, there's very little more ridiculous than police unions. That's the unfortunate side effect of feeling compelled to defend every "bad apple," no matter how rotten they are. The Cleveland police union has reached the apotheosis of law enforcement spin -- this time taking the form of a lawsuit that looks like a punchline.

First, some backstory. In 2014, 12-year-old Tamir Rice was killed by a Cleveland police officer as he played with a toy gun in the park. A caller reported Rice, saying he was waving around a gun. The caller also said it was likely the person they saw was a juvenile and the gun was likely a toy. This information was not passed on to the responding officers, who boldly/stupidly raced across the park lawn to within feet of where Rice was standing and shot him two seconds after exiting their vehicle. The "gun" Rice had was an Airsoft replica with the bright "not a gun" tip removed.

Had the dispatcher passed on the mitigating factors, Tamir Rice might still be alive. Had the officers decided to approach this tactically, rather than like an out-of-control half of a buddy-cop movie cliche, Tamir Rice might still be alive. But, as the Cleveland Patrolmen's Association sees it, the problem wasn't bad communication and worse tactics. The real problem here is toy gun makers.

The Cleveland Patrolmen's Association announced it will soon be filing a lawsuit against toy gun manufacturers in federal court.

CPPA attorney Henry Hilow told News 5 the civil lawsuit will not seek financial damages, but rather seek to restrict the design of toy guns, so they don't look so realistic.

"These fake weapons put the community at risk, puts law enforcement at risk, something has to be done," Hilow said. "The remedy that we'd be looking for is that that gun could not replicate. That that gun would be of such a color have such a tip."

Airsoft guns do look realistic, minus the bright orange tip that comes standard. Anyone can remove the tip… just like anyone can create a real gun that looks fake. None of that matters, though, as attempts to create vicarious liability tend to fall apart under judicial scrutiny. And, notably, the Cleveland Police Union has never attempted to sue the manufacturers of real guns, despite them being involved in almost every situation where officers have shot at people or been shot by them.

As Popehat pointed out on Twitter, this is likely only the first of many police union lawsuits:

Next to be sued by police: Coach for making wallets and God for making black people's hands and waistbands

So far, the CPPA stands alone in its jackassery. But it has hopes that others similarly situated will beclown themselves for the dismayed amusement of the nation:

He said the CPPA is looking for support from other police unions in major cities like Columbus and Dallas.

I applaud the union's willingness to take a stand in court against the maker of an item held by a person one of its members killed. Anything that draws more attention (albeit inadvertently) to the trigger-happy tendencies of Cleveland police officers and the increasing ridiculousness of police union statements and actions is fine by me.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Nowhere in the article do they mention the parent(s). Or do they just show up when they file a lawsuit and the cameras are rolling?

The orange tip is there for a reason. You can't cut it off and pretend there's no difference. And you certainly can't go to a public park by yourself and start pointing the "gun" at people.

What kind of parent thinks this behavior is OK?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-05-07   11:51:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1)

The orange tip is there for a reason. You can't cut it off and pretend there's no difference. And you certainly can't go to a public park by yourself and start pointing the "gun" at people.

This information was not passed on to the responding officers, who boldly/stupidly raced across the park lawn to within feet of where Rice was standing and shot him two seconds after exiting their vehicle.

Deckard  posted on  2017-05-07   12:12:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#2)

The orange tip is there for a reason. You can't cut it off and pretend there's no difference. And you certainly can't go to a public park by yourself and start pointing the "gun" at people.

This information was not passed on to the responding officers, who boldly/stupidly raced across the park lawn to within feet of where Rice was standing and shot him two seconds after exiting their vehicle.

"Loehmann shouted from the car three times at Tamir to show his hands as he approached the car."

Watch the videos….the entire incident happened in less than two seconds.

After seeing the enhanced video, the grand jury did not indict the officers.

Yet, the family was awarded $6 M is a lawsuit settlement.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-07   13:20:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#4)

Watch the videos….the entire incident happened in less than two seconds.

Kinda tough for the kid to comply when the cops gun him down before he even has a chance to comply.

Yet, the family was awarded $6 M is a lawsuit settlement.

Cops : "Yeah we killed your child - here's $6 million dollars to shut up now."

Deckard  posted on  2017-05-07   16:49:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#9)

Kinda tough for the kid to comply when the cops gun him down before he even has a chance to comply.
Turn that around. It would be kinda tough for the Cleveland police officer not to gun him down when the kid has picked up a “gun” off the table, put it in his waistband, walked towards the cop car while the cop yelled three times at him to show his hands and the kid raised his arm, pushed back his jacket and pulled the “gun” from his waistband.

The police officers simply don’t know what a juvenile will do with a “gun.”

A 12-year-old Arkansas boy fatally shoot a store clerk in Fouke, Arkansas.

A 6-year-old fatally shot a classmate at the Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Michigan.

An 11-year-old public school kid snuck his grandfather’s loaded gun into PS 40 in Queens on Tuesday after getting into a confrontation with a classmate days before, law enforcement sources said.

A 6-year-old brought a loaded gun to the Seaford Elementary School in his backpack, according to the York-Poquoson Sheriff's Office.

It doesn’t matter if someone is 12, 24, 48 or 96 years old. If a person has a “gun” in their waistband, is told three times to show his hands, he then lifts his arm, raises his jacket, reaches inside his waistband and removes a “gun”…,at that point, you SHOOT and let the grand jury do their job.
> Cops : "Yeah we killed your child - here's $6 million dollars to shut up now."
So, a 6-year-old boy brought loaded gun to Los Amigos Elementary School in Rancho Cucamonga and the father was arrested.

On the other hand, this 12-year old boy cuts of the orange tip of authentic look-alike gun, goes to a public park and starts pointing the "gun" at people. Then when the police arrive he puts the “gun” in his waistband, whereby he is told three time to show his hands. He then reaches into his waistband, and is shot as he removes the “gun” and his family shows up to collect a $6 M lawsuit settlement.

It is as misterwhite said: “I'd like to see the parents step up and take responsibility for their part in all this.”

Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-07 17:20:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Deckard (#9)

The photo below was released by the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office.

It shows a real gun next to the replica gun 12-year-old Tamir Rice had the day he was shot dead by a Cleveland, Ohio, police officer.

Remember, you are looking at full profiles, while the officer was able only to see the grip and the “gun” being pulled from the waistband.

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