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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In politics and politicians See other politics and politicians Articles Title: Poll: Roy Moore zooms to commanding lead in Alabama’s Senate race Source: Conservative Review URL Source: https://www.conservativereview.com/ ... g-lead-in-alabamas-senate-race Published: May 4, 2017 Author: Chris Pandolfo Post Date: 2017-05-06 03:24:28 by Gatlin Keywords: None Views: 19434 Comments: 65 In the special election for Alabama’s U.S. Senate seat, Judge Roy Moore is the clear front-runner. Moore holds a commanding 10-point lead over incumbent Senator Luther Strange, according to a poll conducted by potential primary challenger Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala. Roy Moore leads the race with 30 percent, followed by Strange at 20 percent, and Rep. Brooks in “the low double-digits.” Strange was appointed to Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ former Senate seat by disgraced former Gov. Robert Bentley before he resigned last month. Many see the appointment as a corrupt deal struck between a governor, Bentley, mired in scandal and the state attorney general, Strange, prosecuting him. Gov. Kay Ivey, Bentley’s successor, called for an early special primary election on Aug. 18 followed by a runoff on September 26 and a general election on December 12. Moore’s candidacy in Alabama is strong. Many Alabamians see Moore – the former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court – as a martyr for the social conservative cause after he was removed from office for directing state probate judges not to issue marriage licenses to homosexual couples. "I have done my duty under the laws of this state to stand for the undeniable truth that God ordained marriage as the union of one man and one woman," Moore said during the press conference in front of the state capitol after the Alabama Supreme Court upheld the decision to remove Moore from the court. The Washington establishment is backing Senator Strange for reelection. McConnell allies in the National Republican Senatorial Committee are threatening potential primary challengers to Strange to dissuade them from running. "We have made it very clear from the beginning that Sen. Luther Strange would be treated as an incumbent," NRSC spokeswoman Katie Martin reportedly told Politico. "It has also been a clear policy that we will not use vendors who work against our incumbents." Despite the NRSC’s threats, the polling shows that there is a race in Alabama, and the conservative challenger has a clear shot at winning. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest #1. To: Gatlin (#0) Strange was appointed to Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ former Senate seat by disgraced former Gov. Robert Bentley before he resigned last month. Many see the appointment as a corrupt deal struck between a governor, Bentley, mired in scandal and the state attorney general, Strange, prosecuting him. . . . "We have made it very clear from the beginning that Sen. Luther Strange would be treated as an incumbent," NRSC spokeswoman Katie Martin reportedly told Politico. "It has also been a clear policy that we will not use vendors who work against our incumbents." They hate Moore and the GOPe is closing ranks to defeat him. Why they want this corrupt former AG in the Senate is beyond me. OTOH, they do hate Moore because he would be as big a bull-in-a-china-shop as Ted Cruz is. A few days back on AL.com: When I talked to him Monday, state Senate Pro Tem Del Marsh said he isn't ready yet to announce his political intentions, but he had already selected a national political firm to run a campaign, just in case. If he runs for United States Senate in a special election later this year, he will have to declare his candidacy before the qualifying deadline on May 17. Time is precious. But about a week ago, he says, that firm called to let him know they couldn't run his campaign, after all. When Marsh asked them why, they explained that they could suffer political retaliation. State Rep. Ed Henry says he's run into the same problems. "It is evident that Washington, D.C., controls Washington, D.C.," Henry said. "The people of Alabama or any other state have very little influence on these races." As stories go, this one might should come with a tinfoil hat, except that it's true. The National Republican Senatorial Committee has warned national political consulting firms to stay away from anyone challenging Luther Strange. It makes no difference to them that Strange has only been in Washington a couple of months. It doesn't matter that Strange was appointed to the office by Robert Bentley, a widely unpopular governor who was forced from office, to cheers from across the state. It matters not that Strange solicited that appointment from Bentley while his office had an open investigation into the governor and his staff. The NRSC is making no secret about it. Strange is, in their book, an incumbent, and just like any other Washington insider, he is entitled to the benefits and privileges that club membership confers. "We have made it very clear from the beginning that Sen. Luther Strange would be treated as an incumbent," NRSC spokeswoman Katie Martin told Politico. "It has also been a clear policy that we will not use vendors who work against our incumbents." Got that? If a firm works for Marsh, Henry, Roy Moore or anyone else who might jump in, then they're blackballed. With 33 Senate races on the ballot in 2018, with about half of those expected to be competitive, getting cut out of 2018 is an existential threat for these consultants, and a risk that most will refuse to take. The NRSC's threat to campaign consultants follows reports that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell personally asked Gov. Kay Ivey not to schedule a special election to replace Jeff Sessions until 2018. Meanwhile, Strange already has $763,612 in his campaign account, while his opponents will have to catch up with him $2,700 at a time, the maximum contribution allowed under federal campaign law. And it's important to understand that these political consulting firms are instrumental not for how to spend campaign money, but raising it. They're the guys with the lists of donors and the secret passageways around campaign finance restrictions. Without one of these teams on your side, a candidate can die in the desert. And right now, Strange's D.C. supporters are cutting Alabama candidates off from this kind of help. Because God help us if we ever had a fair fight. This is how the power of incumbency works, and it's also how democracy rots, because it deprives voters of the thing they need for this system to work -- a choice. Moore did install his own private 2.5-ton 10 commandments monument in the state judicial building with no authorization. So he is more than a little flaky. You just aren't allowed to install your own religious brick-a-brac in state buildings on a personal whim or as a political tactic. So I guess this is a runoff between the Flake (Moore) and the Fluke (Strange). Given how Alabama is, I'd bet on the Flake to win easily. No one except the GOPe will be shedding any tears over Strange losing this seat he obtained so corruptly, almost certainly by blackmailing a corrupt AL governor who he was investigating at the time. Strange would have had a better chance if the GOPe wasn't backing him so much. Alabama voters will (rightly) perceive that the Swamp is trying to shove a corrupt former A.G. down their throats. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   8:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #2. To: Tooconservative (#1) Given how Alabama is, An just how is "Alabama" that other states are not? Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   8:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Tooconservative (#1) Given how Alabama is, I'd bet on the Flake to win easily People who call the honorable Roy Moore a flake are faggots who want to pretend to be married. Your comment makes you sound like a whining liberal. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   9:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: A K A Stone (#3) People who call the honorable Roy Moore a flake are faggots who want to pretend to be married. Gee, are you single, AKA? We could be so happy together. My digestive tract is aching to be filled with your man-love. Can't we exchange diseases like any other couple? LOL Yes, it is flaky for judges to put up 2.5-ton religious monuments inside state judicial buildings. If you want to do something like that, run for the legislature or for governor and pass a law to authorize it. Crackpot judges don't get to just install their own personal monuments on state property. Moore is a weirdo and a very poor choice as a judge, whether you agree with the outcomes in any particular case that he heard. But he will probably win that senate seat in a landslide after the GOPe carries out a full character assassination that will only cement his already-strong support in AL. That doesn't make him a good choice, just a very likely winner. I will be watching this race. I expect the GOPe will pull out all the stops and campaign against Moore in much the same way they campaigned against David Duke when he tried to run for senate in Lousiana. In that instance, the GOPe behaved the same way they are now treating Moore and eventually urged Republicans to vote against Duke and endorsed Duke's Dem opponent so they could stop Duke. I have to wonder whether Trump will pick a side in the Alabama race or (wisely) stay out of it completely. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   9:20:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Gatlin (#2) An just how is "Alabama" that other states are not? The kind of state that would make Roy Moore a chief justice. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   9:22:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Tooconservative (#4) Moore is a weirdo and a very poor choice as a judge, No people who disagree with Moore are mostly sickos. Not you. It surprises me you attack a constitutionalist. Can you give me 3 or 5 decisions that Roy Moore got wrong. I've never heard a case where he got anything wrong. The 10 commandments belong in the courthouse. It is the basis of all law. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   9:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: Tooconservative (#5) The kind of state that would make Roy Moore a chief justice. Smart moral people? Not dummies like in California. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   9:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Tooconservative (#5) And these states are okay? Massachusetts-Warren Massachusetts-Ted Kennedy Minnesota-Frankin Arizona-McCain South Carolina-Graham Kentucky-Paul Texas-Cruz New York-Schumer Vermont-Sanders Connecticut-Blumenthal Illinois-Durbin Virginia-Kane California-Pelosi California-Waters Kentucky-Massie Florida-Hastings California-Lee Florida-Schultz Texas-Lee Hawaii- Gabbard Florida-Grayson Tennessee-Desjarlasi And the list goes on … Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: Tooconservative (#4) Moore is a weirdo? And people who allow men to marry men and women to marry women are not weirdos? How about people who marry animals….will they be next and they will not be weirdos? Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:42:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: A K A Stone (#7) Not dummies like in California. Would you approve of allowing the chief justice of the state of California (or New York) to install their own monuments to every left-wing cause they favor? This whole bit about having the ten commandments in statehouses and courthouses dates back to the late Fifties, when Cecil B. DeMille cooked it up as a promotional scheme for his movie which was called ... The Ten Commandments. Chron.com: 'Ten Commandments' went from film to stone DeMille was already dead by the time his PR patsies, the Fraternal Order of Eagles, ramped up their Ten Commandments monument distribution for parks and courthouses and other city/state properties. But then, how many Texans today will proudly recite "Don't mess with Texas" as a semi-threat without knowing that it was actually just an anti-littering slogan put on signs on a rural stretch of northeastern Texas highway during Lady Bird Johnson's anti-littering jihad? Of course, all of this mostly illustrates how culturally retarded America really is. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   9:46:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Gatlin (#9) And people who allow men to marry men and women to marry women are not weirdos? I dunno. Ask the Supreme Court. More directly, ask which way Anthony Kennedy, Supreme Dictator of the United States, is flapping in the wind on any given day. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   9:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Tooconservative (#10) "I'll stand for the rights and liberties of the people," Moore said while announcing his intent to run at the Alabama statehouse in Montgomery. "My position has always been God first, family then country. That makes Moore a weirdo? Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Tooconservative (#11) Ask the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court did not call Moore a "weirdo"....you did. Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:50:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Tooconservative (#10) Moore said: "I share the vision of President Donald Trump to make America great again. Before we can make America great again, we've got to make America good again." Sounds like a plan to me. Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: Tooconservative (#10) Moore: "I have done my duty under the laws of this state to stand for the undeniable truth that God ordained marriage as the union of one man and one woman," he said. "I know and I think you do, too, that the foundations of the fabric of our country are being shaken tremendously. "Our families are being crippled by divorce and abortion. Our sacred institution of marriage has been destroyed by the Supreme Court. Our rights and liberties are in jeopardy. "What I did, I did for the people of Alabama. I stood up for the Constitution. I stood up for God. The great majority of the people of this state believe in God." That’s not being weird! Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   9:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Gatlin (#15) "I have done my duty under the laws of this state to stand for the undeniable truth that God ordained marriage as the union of one man and one woman," he said. "I know and I think you do, too, that the foundations of the fabric of our country are being shaken tremendously. "Our families are being crippled by divorce and abortion. Our sacred institution of marriage has been destroyed by the Supreme Court. Our rights and liberties are in jeopardy. So if Moore goes to the Senate and offers a bill to ban divorce (and re-marriage), you would support that? Some of these things only sound good until you actually follow them to their inevitable conclusion. I think Moore is a phony and a hypocrite who has spent quite a number of years grandstanding himself in the public eye. And I think he is about to be rewarded for it by the voters of Alabama. OTOH, Luther Strange is a creature of the Swamp Things in the Beltway (known as the GOPe) and got his position by blackmailing a corrupt governor a month before Governor Naughty Pants got run out of orifice. So Moore vs. Strange is a choice but it's still a bad choice IMO. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Tooconservative (#10) Would you approve of allowing the chief justice of the state of California (or New York) to install their own monuments to every left-wing cause they favor? Because someone does good doesn't mean you have to let someone do evil. Can you comprehend that simple concept? Who gives a shit what leftists want. They are luck to be breathing. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #18. To: Tooconservative (#16) So if Moore goes to the Senate and offers a bill to ban divorce (and re-marriage), you would support that? There is no such thing as divorce. If you divorce your wife and you "mary" another you are committing adultery. That is a simple second grade fact if you comprehend it or not. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #19. To: Gatlin (#14) Before we can make America great again, we've got to make America good again. "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." (Spuriously) attributed to Sinclair Lewis. Moore reminds me of this. Just like Huckabee does. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:07:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: A K A Stone (#18) If you divorce your wife and you "mary" another you are committing adultery. That is a simple second grade fact if you comprehend it or not. So you want Roy Moore to lead the Senate in a charge to outlaw divorce unconditionally? Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:08:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Tooconservative (#16) I think Moore is a phony and a hypocrite who has spent quite a number of years grandstanding himself in the public eye. On this thread that could be said of you. You are grandstanding saying Moore is a flake and other insults. But I ask you a simple question to tell us what decisions you disagree with. You seem at a loss of words to give us details. You just continue to grandstand and talk about divorce. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #22. To: Gatlin (#12) "I'll stand for the rights and liberties of the people," Moore said while announcing his intent to run at the Alabama statehouse in Montgomery. "My position has always been God first, family then country. That makes Moore a weirdo? Moore is no weirdo. You are just to the right of sortaconservative. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #23. To: Tooconservative (#20) So you want Roy Moore to lead the Senate in a charge to outlaw divorce unconditionally? So you want everyone to be forced to mary someone of the same sex? That is how stupid your question was. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #24. To: A K A Stone (#21) On this thread that could be said of you. Are you serious? This entire forum has about 15-20 active users, maybe another 10 intermittent posters. I hate to break it to you but LF is just a little chat board. How do you compare some posts on an anonymous forum to having the kind of power that a state chief justice has or a U.S. senator has? Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: A K A Stone (#22) You are just to the right of sortaconservative. You aren't going to change my handle again, are you? Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:13:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #26. To: A K A Stone (#23) So you want everyone to be forced to mary someone of the same sex? Sure. Why not? It would be good for a laugh. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: Tooconservative (#4) "Yes, it is flaky for judges to put up 2.5-ton religious monuments inside state judicial buildings." You think that's flaky? How about those who put dead bodies in the Capitol rotunda? Weird. By the way, this "religious" monument was also covered with quotes from the Declaration of Independence, the national anthem, and various Founding Fathers. If the mere presence of the Ten Commandments makes this a "religious monument", then I assume you'd describe Elizabeth Warren as a Cherokee Indian. misterwhite  posted on  2017-05-06   10:14:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: Tooconservative (#24) This entire forum has about 15-20 active users, maybe another 10 intermittent posters. I hate to break it to you but LF is just a little chat board. How do you compare some posts on an anonymous forum to having the kind of power that a state chief justice has or a U.S. senator has? You're off topic. I just said you were grandstanding. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: misterwhite (#27) You think that's flaky? How about those who put dead bodies in the Capitol rotunda? Weird. By the way, this "religious" monument was also covered with quotes from the Declaration of Independence, the national anthem, and various Founding Fathers. If the mere presence of the Ten Commandments makes this a "religious monument", then I assume you'd describe Elizabeth Warren as a Cherokee Indian. I give you a hard time sometimes. I have to wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments on this topic. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:15:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: Tooconservative (#26) Sure. Why not? It would be good for a laugh. So laws should be passed so you can have a good laugh. Got ya. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #31. To: misterwhite (#27) You think that's flaky? How about those who put dead bodies in the Capitol rotunda? Weird. I dislike having dead bodies in legislative buildings for any reason. I would not allow any of them to lie "in state". Besides, it's too hard to distinguish real corpses from the undead hacks we elect to those legislatures. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:17:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #32. To: Tooconservative (#25) You aren't going to change my handle again, are you? Not a chance. A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:17:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Tooconservative (#20) So you want Roy Moore to lead the Senate in a charge to outlaw divorce unconditionally? Do you think that if you "divorce" your wife and start up with another lady that it isn't adultry? Do you believe in marriage? Do you believe in until death do us part? A K A Stone  posted on  2017-05-06   10:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #34. To: Tooconservative (#19) “When fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-fascism.” -- (Spuriously) attributed to Huey Long. Or, Antifa as it is called today. I think Huey Long is closer to the real truth. misterwhite  posted on  2017-05-06   10:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #35. To: A K A Stone (#33) Do you think that if you "divorce" your wife and start up with another lady that it isn't adultry? Yep. Do you believe in marriage? In theory. In practice, not so much. Do you believe in until death do us part? Did the apostle Paul? He seemed to allow divorce/remarriage just because your spouse was not a Christian. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-05-06   10:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #36. To: Tooconservative (#31) "I dislike having dead bodies in legislative buildings for any reason." Yeah. It kinda makes the presence of a granite monument a preferable option, huh? misterwhite  posted on  2017-05-06   10:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: Tooconservative (#1) So I guess this is a runoff between the Flake (Moore) and the Fluke (Strange). Well stated. In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-06   10:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Tooconservative (#16) So if Moore goes to the Senate and offers a bill to ban divorce (and re-marriage), you would support that? That’s a stupid hypothetical question to ask … Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   10:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #39. To: A K A Stone (#3) People who call the honorable Roy Moore a flake are faggots who want to pretend to be married. Moore ain't all that honorable because he wants to use the power of the government to stuff his religion down everyone's throat. If he had his way,the US would be a Christian version of Saudi Arabia. You up for that,Stone? In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments. sneakypete  posted on  2017-05-06   10:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: Tooconservative (#16) I think Moore is a phony and a hypocrite who has spent quite a number of years grandstanding himself in the public eye. And I think he is about to be rewarded for it by the voters of Alabama. You are allowed to “think” what you want to….God Bless America. And Moore is allowed to stand up for what he fells is right. But who is the hypocrite just to call someone a hypocrite because they don’t agree with him? Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   10:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: A K A Stone (#17) Would you approve of allowing the chief justice of the state of California (or New York) to install their own monuments to every left-wing cause they favor? If they were on the basic heritage of our country and the founding principles….I would feel comfortable with that. Just as as federal district court found printing “In God We Trust” on legal tender does not violate the Constitution….I don’t feel that Moore placing the Ten Commandments in the court building violated the Constitution. And just a “in God We Trust” appears on the facade of the U.S. Supreme Court building, I don’t feel that Moore placing the Ten Commandments in the court building violated the Constitution. “The National Motto, ‘In God We Trust,’ appears in the the House and Senate Chambers and yet Moore could not place a monument of the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Supreme Court building. Now, tell me again about being hypocritical … Gatlin  posted on  2017-05-06   10:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply         .       .       . Comments (42 - 65) not displayed. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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