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Title: Please, God, Stop Chelsea Clinton from Whatever She Is Doing
Source: Vanity Fair
URL Source: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017 ... ton-from-whatever-she-is-doing
Published: Apr 22, 2017
Author: T. A. Frank
Post Date: 2017-04-22 18:50:12 by HomerBohn
Keywords: None
Views: 17745
Comments: 62

The last thing the left needs is the third iteration of a failed political dynasty.

Amid investigations into Russian election interference, perhaps we ought to consider whether the Kremlin, to hurt Democrats, helped put Chelsea Clinton on the cover of Variety. Or maybe superstition explains it. Like tribesmen laying out a sacrifice to placate King Kong, news outlets continue to make offerings to the Clinton gods. In The New York Times alone, Chelsea has starred in multiple features over the past few months: for her tweeting (it’s become “feisty”), for her upcoming book (to be titled She Persisted), and her reading habits (she says she has an “embarrassingly large” collection of books on her Kindle). With Chelsea’s 2015 book, It’s Your World, now out in paperback, the puff pieces in other outlets—Elle, People, etc.—are too numerous to count.

One wishes to calm these publications: You can stop this now. Haven’t you heard that the great Kong is no more? Nevertheless, they’ve persisted. At great cost: increased Chelsea exposure is tied closely to political despair and, in especially intense cases, the bulk purchasing of MAGA hats. So let’s review: How did Chelsea become such a threat?

Perhaps the best way to start is by revisiting some of Chelsea’s major post-2008 forays into the public eye. Starting in 2012, she began to allow glossy magazines to profile her, and she picked up speed in the years that followed. The results were all friendly in aim, and yet the picture that kept emerging from the growing pile of Chelsea quotations was that of a person accustomed to courtiers nodding their heads raptly.

Here are Chelsea’s thoughts on returning to red meat in her diet: “I’m a big believer in listening to my body’s cravings.” On her time in the “fiercely meritocratic” workplace of Wall Street: “I was curious if I could care about [money] on some fundamental level, and I couldn’t.” On her precocity: “They told me that my father had learned to read when he was three. So, of course, I thought I had to too. The first thing I learned to read was the newspaper.” Take that, Click, Clack, Moo.

Chelsea, people were quietly starting to observe, had a tendency to talk a lot, and at length, not least about Chelsea. But you couldn’t interrupt, not even if you’re on TV at NBC, where she was earning $600,000 a year at the time. “When you are with Chelsea, you really need to allow her to finish,” Jay Kernis, one of Clinton’s segment producers at NBC, told Vogue. “She’s not used to being interrupted that way.”

Sounds perfect for a dating profile: I speak at length, and you really need to let me finish. I’m not used to interruptions.

What comes across with Chelsea, for lack of a gentler word, is self-regard of an unusual intensity. And the effect is stronger on paper. Unkind as it is to say, reading anything by Chelsea Clinton—tweets, interviews, books—is best compared to taking in spoonfuls of plain oatmeal that, periodically, conceal a toenail clipping.

Take the introduction to It’s Your World (Get Informed! Get Inspired! Get Going!). It’s harmless, you think. “My mom wouldn’t let me have sugary cereal growing up (more on that later),” writes Chelsea, “so I improvised, adding far more honey than likely would have been in any honeyed cereals.” That’s the oatmeal—and then comes the toenail:

I wrote a letter to President Reagan when I was five to voice my opposition to his visit to the Bitburg cemetery in Germany, because Nazis were buried there. I didn’t think an American president should honor a group of soldiers that included Nazis. President Reagan still went, but at least I had tried in my own small way.

Ah, yes, that reminds me of when I was four and I wrote to Senator John Warner about grain tariffs, arguing that trade barriers unfairly decreased consumer choice.

At first glance, of course, Chelsea seems to be boasting that at age five she was interpreting the news with the maturity of an adult. But we should consider whether it’s instead a confession that as an adult she still interprets the news with the maturity of—well, let’s just submit that perhaps she thinks what other people tell her to think. Which brings us to Chelsea’s Twitter feed.

Since Chelsea has 1.6 million followers, we can only conclude that some people enjoy ideas like “Yes. Yes. Yes. Closing the #wagegap is crucial to a strong economy.” And maybe there’s no sin in absorbing and exuding nothing but respectable Blue State opinion. But it’s another thing to insist on joining each day’s designated outrage bandwagon. Did we need to slap down a curmudgeonly Charlotte Rampling, age 71, for griping about #OscarsSoWhite activists? Yes, and here’s Chelsea: “Outrageous, ignorant & offensive comments from Rampling.” Is gender identity not going to be included on the 2020 census? Here’s Chelsea: “This is outrageous. No one should be invisible in America.” Not that there aren’t breaks for deeper thoughts: “Words without action are ... meaningless. Words with inaction are ... just words. Words with opposite action is ... hypocrisy.”

That is … beautiful.

The crude conventional wisdom is that Bill Clinton craved adoration and Hillary Clinton craved power. But Chelsea Clinton seems to have a more crippling want: fashionability—of the sort embraced by philanthropic high society. So you tell The New York Times that your dream dinner party would include James Baldwin, Shakespeare, Franz Kafka, Albert Camus, Jane Jacobs, and Jane Austen, and discussion would be about how “people and communities can evolve to be more inclusive, more kind, have a greater and broader sense of solidarity, while still respecting individual liberties; what provokes or blocks those changes; and what stories might resonate today to encourage us toward kindness, respect, and mutual dignity.” You almost have to bow down before someone who could host Shakespeare for dinner and make the agenda wind up sounding like a brochure for the Altria Group. At least Kafka would be on hand to capture the joy of the evening.

To find fault with the former First Daughter is to invite the wrath of thousands. Love of Chelsea correlates closely with love of Hillary, toward whom her fans have long felt an odd protectiveness, as if she were a stroke survivor regaining the power of speech rather than one of the most influential people in the world. That goes even more for Chelsea, who is often treated less like an independent 37-year-old multi-millionaire and more like the 12-year-old who still deserves to be left alone.

But let’s have a reality check. No one bothers George W. Bush’s daughter, Barbara Bush, who quietly works on her nonprofit, Global Health Corps. On the other hand, if you’re posing for magazine covers, granting interviews, doing book tours, placing your name on your parents’ multi-million-dollar foundation, and tweeting out daily to 1.6 million people, then—guess what—you’re a public figure. And if you’ve openly entertained the possibility of running for office if “it was something I felt called to do,” then assurances to the contrary aren’t quite good enough. You’re a public hazard.

God has decreed that American political dynasties decline sharply in suitability for office with each iteration. Call it the George H.W.-George W.-Jeb rule. Quit after the first iteration. Don’t trot out the second one. And, for the love of God, don’t trot out the third. Forgetting that rule harmed the Democratic Party in 2016 and blew up the Republican Party entirely. The Democratic Party is surprisingly cohesive these days, thanks to anti-Trump sentiment, so a Jeb-style destruction is unlikely. But never say never. If anyone could make it happen, Chelsea could.


Poster Comment:

A rather insightful piece regardless of the source. Frank appears as a foppish sort of writer, but there is much truth in what he says about this motor-mouthed, obnoxious brat offspring of two of the most evil beings to ever step foot in the White House, which they both disgraced.

It is abundantly clear that what all this splashing about of Chelsea means is that her bloody parents want a political career for this mouth.(1 image)

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#23. To: interpreter (#19)

The Roman Empire never, ever included Sarmatia, Hibernia, Nubia, Ethiopia or Persia. Not ever.

:Part of Germany was part of Rome for a time, but eventually Rome was conquered by the Germans.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:13:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: interpreter (#20)

I mean that the British Empire was the dominant force on Earth, and they ruled whatever they wanted to rule, and no one ever stopped them until George Washington, t

Joan of Arc stripped them of all of their provinces in France.

The British got themselves crushed in Afghanistan and never ruled it.

They never dared provoke Russia too much, because the Russians could descend on India and they knew it.

The British Empire was important. It did not even come close to ruling the world. And it did not go wherever it wanted and do whatever it wanted.

Example: the British wanted to enter into the American Civil War on the Confederate side, but they dared not do it because the Russians had sided with the Union, and were ready to make war on them in India if they did.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: interpreter (#20)

That is, they invented capitalism in case you didn't know it,

They didn't.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#21)

No he didn't liar.

All of the history books say that Jesus returned in 312 AD (or at least they used to all say that before history was rewritten in recent years in order to not offend the atheists, Muslims, and Buddhists, etc. that LBJ very foolishly allowed to come into our nation back in 1965. But there are still a few historians and a few older textbooks that dare to tell the truth. And that makes you the liar.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   0:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: interpreter (#22)

ou have left out the fact that we won WW II by conquering both Hitler and Japan. Several countries helped us conquer Hitler, but it was primarily the US. And yes because Moscow helped us a little bit, we voluntarily gave the "great whore" a lot of the spoils. But it was not because she actually conquered all those countries.

Oh good Lord. Russia was the primary power that conquered Germany. 85% of German casualties were suffered on the Russian Front, and delivered by the Soviet Union. We assisted the Soviet Union in conquering Germany, not the other way around. We did not GIVE the USSR anything. They TOOK it in the process of conquering Germany.

The war ended on the line that the Soviet and American troops met. What were we going to do in 1945? Attack the Soviet Union? It would have been madness. There would have been millions dead. The Germans surprised them in 1941, but once the Bear got armed up and moving, they crushed the Germans under the massive weight of armor and air and so many troops. The Soviets pinned and mauled the Nazis, while the Western Allies brought up the rear.

Had the Soviets attached us in 1945, with airpower and the Allied forces, we probably would have been able to hold the line and stop them. But if we had attacked them, to try to take Berlin and Eastern Europe from us, they would have pulped our forces.

We didn't "let" the Soviets keep anything. We were allies that needed each other.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: interpreter (#26)

All of the history books say that Jesus returned in 312 AD

They do, eh? Who knew?

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: interpreter (#22)

The fact is, we can conquer whatever and whoever we want to, because we have weapons that are superior to anyone else's.

No, we can't. Russia is just as powerful as we are. They have 9000 nuclear weapons and are just as capable of exterminating us completely as we are them. We both know it, and neither side is crazy or suicidal, and so we've kept the peace. It has been a cold peace at times, but peace nevertheless, because for Russia and America to fight is to invite armageddon. The US cannot defeat Russia, nor Riussia the US. Neither is strong enough. We can wipe each other out. What victory is that?

It is true that there is nobody else that could completely destroy us. The third most powerful nation in the world is France, because they have the third most nuclear weapons. They could probably kill a third of us, but we'd still "win" and they'd all die. Britain could also deliver a nasty nuclear punch, but would lose. China has much less capability against the US.

So yes, I agree that we could take on MOST of the world. But not Russia. We are not more powerful than Russia, and we do not have the ability to conquer Russia, We merely have the capability to destroy Russia, even as they wipe us out.

And that would be a dumb thing to do. The first two nations into space are too smart to wipe themselves out over spleen. The Germans and Japanese probably would have committed national suicide on the roll of a dice, but the Americans and Russians are smarter and cooler headed and would never do that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   0:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Vicomte13 (#25)

"That is, they invented capitalism in case you didn't know it"

They didn't.

You not only know nothing about the Bible, but obviously you also know nothing about Great Britain and/or capitalism. Before England changed the rules, it was illegal for anyone in a Christian nation to charge interest on a loan. On the day England changed that law, capitalism was born. I thought everyone in the world knew that. That is definitely in all the history books but you have obviously not read a history book either.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   0:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Vicomte13 (#29) (Edited)

No, we can't. Russia is just as powerful as we are. They have 9000 nuclear weapons and are just as capable of exterminating us completely as we are them. We both know it, and neither side is crazy or suicidal, and so we've kept the peace. It has been a cold peace at times, but peace nevertheless, because for Russia and America to fight is to invite armageddon. The US cannot defeat Russia, nor Riussia the US. Neither is strong enough. We can wipe each other out. What victory is that?

It is true that there is nobody else that could completely destroy us. The third most powerful nation in the world is France, because they have the third most nuclear weapons. They could probably kill a third of us, but we'd still "win" and they'd all die. Britain could also deliver a nasty nuclear punch, but would lose. China has much less capability against the US.

So yes, I agree that we could take on MOST of the world. But not Russia. We are not more powerful than Russia, and we do not have the ability to conquer Russia, We merely have the capability to destroy Russia, even as they wipe us out.

And that would be a dumb thing to do. The first two nations into space are too smart to wipe themselves out over spleen. The Germans and Japanese probably would have committed national suicide on the roll of a dice, but the Americans and Russians are smarter and cooler headed and would never do that.

There is a little bit of validity in what you are saying, but let me remind you that Russia is now a Christian nation and that Trump and Putin are friends now. So there is no reason for Putin to attack the US, and no reason for Trump to attack Moscow. So you are making a totally moot point. I said we could conquer whoever we want to, and the fact is, we don't want to conquer Moscow. Maybe the Democrats want to, but not Trump. And like you yourself said, Putin and Trump are "cooler headed."

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   0:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Vicomte13 (#27) (Edited)

Oh good Lord. Russia was the primary power that conquered Germany. 85% of German casualties were suffered on the Russian Front, and delivered by the Soviet Union. We assisted the Soviet Union in conquering Germany, not the other way around. We did not GIVE the USSR anything. They TOOK it in the process of conquering Germany.

The war ended on the line that the Soviet and American troops met. What were we going to do in 1945? Attack the Soviet Union? It would have been madness. There would have been millions dead. The Germans surprised them in 1941, but once the Bear got armed up and moving, they crushed the Germans under the massive weight of armor and air and so many troops. The Soviets pinned and mauled the Nazis, while the Western Allies brought up the rear.

Had the Soviets attached us in 1945, with airpower and the Allied forces, we probably would have been able to hold the line and stop them. But if we had attacked them, to try to take Berlin and Eastern Europe from us, they would have pulped our forces.

We didn't "let" the Soviets keep anything. We were allies that needed each other.

I don't know what history book(s) you've been reading, but most history books say that D-Day was the turning point of WW II. And that is also what the Revelation says. On D- Day, 200 million horses (under the hood) were unleashed on the antiChrist (Hitler) and the third of the Earth aligned with him. The riders on the horses are said to be wearing breastplates of red, white and blue which is very obviously referring to US soldiers. You can believe anything you want to, but as for me, I choose to believe the Bible (see the 6th trumpet prophecy).

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   1:16:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Vicomte13 (#28)

"All of the history books say that Jesus returned in 312 AD"

They do, eh? Who knew?

Obviously not you. I suspect that you are pretty young and have never read a real history book that tells the truth and has not been rewritten to appease the atheists and pagans who are offended by the truth. All of the history books when I went to school said that Jesus returned in 312 AD, on Oct. 27th when the sign of Christ appeared in the sky and Jesus appeared to St. Constantine. And you have probably heard futurists say that Jesus is coming back in the future (our future) whereas Jesus said umpteen times that he would return quickly and with speed. To say that He didn't is to call Jesus a liar.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   1:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Vicomte13 (#24)

Joan of Arc stripped them of all of their provinces in France.

The British got themselves crushed in Afghanistan and never ruled it.

They never dared provoke Russia too much, because the Russians could descend on India and they knew it.

The British Empire was important. It did not even come close to ruling the world. And it did not go wherever it wanted and do whatever it wanted.

Example: the British wanted to enter into the American Civil War on the Confederate side, but they dared not do it because the Russians had sided with the Union, and were ready to make war on them in India if they did.

I suppose that next you are going to tell me that King James and most of the other British kings did not ride black racing horses (which of course is what Britain and the British kings are famous for). And I don't know of any other king(s) before or since who ever rode a black horse. Do you?

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   1:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: interpreter (#34)

I would tell you that kings ride many horses, and that their color is irrelevant.

Whether King James' horse was black or not, I cannot say. I do know that he was a notorious homosexual, running after the men of his court.

I would tell you that the history books you've read are cracked if they tell you that Constantine conquered the whole known world. He did nothing of the kind. The greatest Roman conqueror after Julius Caesar was Trajan, a pagan, who took the Empire to its greatest extent in 117 AD when he led the Roman forces to conquer Mespotamia. They never went into Persia.

But I can see that the ideas you have are very dear to you, so I will leave them, and you be.

If you think Le Pen will be elected, you have a disappointment coming.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   6:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: interpreter (#26)

No all the history books don't say that you liar. You false prophet. You false teacher.

Name one person who lived a thousand years. You cannot because you are a dumb ass liar.

Tell us idiot who was resurrected. Those are some of the things that will happenot when Jesus returns.

Just as it is certain you go to a Luke warm faggot church. It is also a fact that there was no teturn of Jesus to date.

So get your head out of your ass and stop worshipping Constantine.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-26   7:10:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

King James wasn't a fag. But you would vote for left wing extremists who love abortion. I'm talking of course about how you would vote for a witch who consults with evil spirits and worships abortion over a true christian like Ted Cruz. And your reason is sick. Because hillary would be better in your mind because she will steal the fruits of God's people's labor and give it to someone who refuses to work and had 10 abortions.

Catholics don't follow the teachings of christ. You make an idol out of stealing and giving to someone who didn't earn or deserve it. It is quite an anti christian philisophy. Especially considering that Jesus very plainly taught in a language a second grader can understand. That being that if you don't work you dont eat. U less you are disabled in some way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-26   7:17:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: BorisY (#12)

I was just thinking this. What a coincidence.

Liberals are a lot like Slinkys, they're good for nothing but they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

HomerBohn  posted on  2017-04-26   8:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Vicomte13 (#35)

I would tell you that kings ride many horses, and that their color is irrelevant.

Whether King James' horse was black or not, I cannot say. I do know that he was a notorious homosexual, running after the men of his court.

I would tell you that the history books you've read are cracked if they tell you that Constantine conquered the whole known world. He did nothing of the kind. The greatest Roman conqueror after Julius Caesar was Trajan, a pagan, who took the Empire to its greatest extent in 117 AD when he led the Roman forces to conquer Mespotamia. They never went into Persia.

But I can see that the ideas you have are very dear to you, so I will leave them, and you be.

If you think Le Pen will be elected, you have a disappointment coming.

First, the color of the horses the 4 horsemen ride and the weapons they carry are very, very relevant because that is main way we can easily identify them. And if you google images of King James, they ALL show him riding a black horse, and ALL world history books say that King James, together with the Archbishop of Canterbury who had to OK it, invented capitalism, i.e, charging interest. Plus, for today's reader who has a computer equipped with software that draws vectors (or Great Circles) that can point to even cities on the other side of the Earth, both Canterbury and London, the British lamp and stand are very accurately identified by the "starguide" that Jesus provided in ch. 1 to very accurately identify ALL of the good things foretold and thereby remove any doubt as to what most any prophecy is referring to.

Constantinople is also very accurately pointed to by the foolproof starguide Jesus gives us, removing any doubt as to who the first horseman is. Likewise, New York City, Philadelphia, and Washington DC, the 3 historical capitals of the US, are very accurately pointed to by another vector of the starguide, like 3 ducks in a row. So there is absolutely no possible way I could be wrong about the 4 horsemen because the starguide is foolproof.

So those are the three ways anyone can easily identify the 4 horsemen (provided you have a PC that can draw great circles). And if you don't have one, I suggest you buy one and plug in the coordinates of the 7 Asian cities the Revelation is addressed to, and plot the 21 vectors they form that point to all 21 of the 21 good things foretold.

There are also bad vectors that point to the bad things foretold, but that's a whole different subject. I am just spoon-feeding you a little bit of knowledge for now. If you want to know everything about everything in the Revelation, you need to buy my book, The Revelation:a Historicist View which is available at Amazon and Barnes and Nobles, and at some Christian bookstores like Christianbooks.com

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   9:43:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#36) (Edited)

No all the history books don't say that you liar. You false prophet. You false teacher.

Name one person who lived a thousand years. You cannot because you are a dumb ass liar.

Tell us idiot who was resurrected. Those are some of the things that will happenot when Jesus returns.

Just as it is certain you go to a Luke warm faggot church. It is also a fact that there was no teturn of Jesus to date.

So get your head out of your ass and stop worshipping Constantine.

OK, I will gladly tell you all those things.

1) Many scientists are saying that someone born this year will live to be a thousand years old because of all the advances in medicine, etc.

2) Many scientists are saying that a martyr will be resurrected from the dead very soon, possibly this year, and it will be performed on the battlefield by US doctors in Baghdad, in the epicenter of the Battle of Ar Mageddon as the Revelation also signifies. It will be made possible by a "biosyncrisity" drug called LY which preserves a dead soldier's brain and other vital organs until he can be taken to the hospital (in the Green Zone in Baghdad) and there be operated on and brought back to life. It tastes sour or vinegary, and is very probably the same drug that was given to Jesus on the cross.

The Revelation signifies that those two things will happen this year, or possibly early next year. And at the same time (this year), a 24th Christian nation (Montenegro) will join NATO, and after all the nations not wearing a wedding garment (atheist and Muslim nations) are kicked out, and all Muslim militants (ISIS,etc.) are defeated, the 24 Christian nations in NATO will rule the Earth unhindered by Satan for a thousand years just as prophesied.

So I suggest you get your head out of your ass and start praising God because it all happens this year or at the latest early next year.

PS, while some Episcopal churches may be lukewarm "faggot" Churches, the church I attend most definitely is not one of them. My church is very hot for Jesus and has produced both me and Jerry Kramer who is probably the most hottest on fire for Jesus person in the world. With God's help, we have both converted thousands of people. I convert hard-core atheist criminals (in Texas jails mostly but also, with my book, atheists all over the world) and he is in Iraq converting thousands of Muslim refugees.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   10:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)

King James wasn't a fag. But you would vote for left wing extremists who love abortion. I'm talking of course about how you would vote for a witch who consults with evil spirits and worships abortion over a true christian like Ted Cruz. And your reason is sick. Because hillary would be better in your mind because she will steal the fruits of God's people's labor and give it to someone who refuses to work and had 10 abortions.

Catholics don't follow the teachings of christ. You make an idol out of stealing and giving to someone who didn't earn or deserve it. It is quite an anti christian philisophy. Especially considering that Jesus very plainly taught in a language a second grader can understand. That being that if you don't work you dont eat. U less you are disabled in some way.

Just want to say that I too like Ted Cruz, another local Houston home-boy like the Bushes.

One of the objectives of my book, besides converting atheists, is to get all Christians actively involved in politics. After all, we are supposed to be ruling the Earth, and we need to start with getting the US back on track.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   11:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#40) (Edited)

Sorry, I misspelled the type of drug that brings people back to life. The correct spelling is Biochronicity.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   12:51:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: interpreter (#40)

(biosyncricity) is very probably the same drug that was given to Jesus on the cross.

Uh - No.

Vinegar to drink mingled with gall.—In Mark 15:23, “wine mingled with myrrh.” The animal secretion known as “gall” is clearly out of the question, and the meaning of the word is determined by its use in the Greek version of the Old Testament, where it stands for the “wormwood” of Proverbs 5:4, for the poisonous herb joined with “wormwood” in Deuteronomy 29:18. It was clearly something at once nauseous and narcotic, given by the merciful to dull the pain of execution, and mixed with the sour wine of the country and with myrrh to make it drinkable.

It may have been hemlock, or even poppy-juice, but there are no materials for deciding. It is probable that the offer came from the more pitiful of the women mentioned by St. Luke (Luke 23:27) as following our Lord and lamenting.

Such acts were among the received “works of mercy” of the time and place. The “tasting” implied a recognition of the kindly purpose of the act, but a recognition only. In the refusal to do more than taste we trace the resolute purpose to drink the cup which His Father had given Him to the last drop, and not to dull either the sense of suffering nor the clearness of His communion with His Father with the slumberous potion. The same draught was, we may believe, offered to the two criminals who were crucified with Him.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-26   13:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: interpreter (#39)

You clearly believe this all. Peace be with you. Goodbye.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   13:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#37) (Edited)

But you would vote for left wing extremists who love abortion.

And you vote for Republicans, who gave us abortion in the firstplace, and the open border - the first big amnesty, and who have left both in place.

And now your Republicans have all the power again - the entire government in Washington and in 35 states.

And here we are, coming to a vote on the budget: defunding Planned Parenthood and funding the Border Wall are both on the table.

Now, if the Republicans defund Planned Parenthood and fund the Border Wall, you will be able to knock me over with a feather. And I'll be the first one on here pointing back to my own posts and saying that I was wrong, that they DID come through on abortion and on the border wall, that Trump led them to their better selves.

But when they don't, you'll still be carping away stupidly at me about Hillary Clinton, for whom I did not vote, and pretending that you did not vote for abortion and for open borders by voting Republican, EVEN THOUGH the Republicans gave us both, and kept on giving them, during their 44 continuous years of Supreme Court control since Roe v. Wade.

The difference is that I get it. I see who lies and who doesn't. I see who does what he says and who does not.

But you're a thick headed Protestant fanatic thug who never learns, no matter how many time Lucy moves the football on you. No matter how many times the Republicans ass-rape you, you're going to kvetch at me as though I did something to you by telling you the truth.

I hope I'm wrong about the Republicans, but I'm not, as you are once again about to see by WHAT THEY DO.

And then, after they do it, you're still going to be the same drooling rube who comes after ME as though I did something to you. Yeah. I did. I told you THE TRUTH. But you've never handled it well, and you still don't. And when they ass rape you AGAIN, next week, you'll still attack me instead of looking in the mirror and saying: my God, I'M the asshole and the fool here.

So, I'll just keep quiet UNTIL the Republicans ass-fuck you AGAIN. And then I'll come back and remind you of it. And you'll still bark at me like a junkyard dog that cannot and will not ever learn a thing.

If you think Social Security is stealing, and Medicare, then STOP COLLECTING THEM. Send the checks back. Otherwise you're more of a thief than I am - because I collect neither, but I support the programs. But YOU say they are theft, yet you will reap the reward of stolen goods all out of proportion to whatever you paid into the kitty.

You'll justify it to yourself. Just as you'll justify the Republicans lying to you and raping you again next week, when they don't fund the wall and do fund Planned Parenthood.

I'm done until next week. Once they rape you again, I'll be back to say I TOLD YOU SO.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   14:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Deckard (#43) (Edited)

Uh - No.

Vinegar to drink mingled with gall.—In Mark 15:23, “wine mingled with myrrh.” The animal secretion known as “gall” is clearly out of the question, and the meaning of the word is determined by its use in the Greek version of the Old Testament, where it stands for the “wormwood” of Proverbs 5:4, for the poisonous herb joined with “wormwood” in Deuteronomy 29:18. It was clearly something at once nauseous and narcotic, given by the merciful to dull the pain of execution, and mixed with the sour wine of the country and with myrrh to make it drinkable.

It may have been hemlock, or even poppy-juice, but there are no materials for deciding. It is probable that the offer came from the more pitiful of the women mentioned by St. Luke (Luke 23:27) as following our Lord and lamenting.

Such acts were among the received “works of mercy” of the time and place. The “tasting” implied a recognition of the kindly purpose of the act, but a recognition only. In the refusal to do more than taste we trace the resolute purpose to drink the cup which His Father had given Him to the last drop, and not to dull either the sense of suffering nor the clearness of His communion with His Father with the slumberous potion. The same draught was, we may believe, offered to the two criminals who were crucified with Him.

There is no way the vinegary substance given to Jesus on the cross is any of the substances you have mentioned, because the Bible says that IMMEDIATELY when it was given to Jesus, He "gave up the ghost." That is exactly what happens when anyone is given the Biochronicity drug called LY294002 (or LY). You immediately go into a suspended state between life and death and you look like (and are) completely dead except for your vital organs are preserved for at least 3 days and 3 nights just like the Bible says.

And Jesus often used drugs to perform miracles. For example, when He healed the blind man, He mixed up some kind of substance that looked like "mud" and applied it to the blind man's eyes, and he was immediately able to see. Surely you don't think it was common ordinary mud, do you? Like doctors today, who can do much the same thing with drugs, even God has to obey the laws of physics (that He created).

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   15:41:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: interpreter (#46)

even God has to obey the laws of physics (that He created).

If he has to obey laws, your "god" is not God.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   17:22:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Vicomte13 (#47)

If he has to obey laws, your "god" is not God.

Don't know if I agree with that. Everyone has to obey laws because there is no such thing as pure hocus pocus magic. But God can manipulate his laws just like our doctors today do routinely. In other words, what I am saying is that we are increasingly becoming like God as signified in Genesis. We can now raise people from the dead, and we will soon be able to live for a thousand years, and eventually we will probably be able to live forever (like God).

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-26   18:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: interpreter (#32)

but most history books say that D-Day was the turning point of WW II.

No they don't. They say that Stalingrad and Midway were the turning points of World War II in Europe and the Pacific respectively.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   19:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: interpreter (#48)

If God is bound, then he is not God and I am not interested in him. He's a power, but there is a greater power than he. That which can bind God is God, and I'm interested in THAT.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-26   19:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Vicomte13 (#49) (Edited)

No they don't. They say that Stalingrad and Midway were the turning points of World War II in Europe and the Pacific respectively.

Funny, I have never heard that or read that. But even if there is a history book that says that, I prefer to believe what the Bible says. The Revelation says that the 200 million horses unleashed on Hitler on D-Day is/was the turning point of WW II, and I'm sticking with that irregardless of any nonsense you or anyone else may spout.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   0:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vicomte13 (#50)

If God is bound, then he is not God and I am not interested in him. He's a power, but there is a greater power than he. That which can bind God is God, and I'm interested in THAT.

Well, I am not interested in your fairy tale God because I don't believe in fairies.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   0:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: interpreter (#52)

Well, I am not interested in your fairy tale God because I don't believe in fairies.

And I'm not interested in your fairy tale god either. So let's call it a day.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-27   7:00:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: interpreter (#48) (Edited)

We can now raise people from the dead...

Uh - no we can't.

Hebrews 9:27 - And as it is appointed unto men that they shall once die, and after that cometh the judgment:

Only God can raise people from the dead.

...and we will soon be able to live for a thousand years, and eventually we will probably be able to live forever (like God).

Not because of what humans do.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-27   7:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: interpreter (#51)

No the bible doesn't say that. You bear false witness. Dece8ving and being deceived.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-27   8:09:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Deckard (#54) (Edited)

"We can now raise people from the dead..."

Uh - no we can't.

Hebrews 9:27 - And as it is appointed unto men that they shall once die, and after that cometh the judgment:

Only God can raise people from the dead.

...and we will soon be able to live for a thousand years, and eventually we will probably be able to live forever (like God).

Not because of what humans do.

We are already routinely raising people from the dead with CPR and defibrillators, etc. But Rev 20:4 suggests a more impressive feat – either sewing someone’s head back on, or (much more likely) bringing someone back to life who is brain-dead.

We are fast arriving there. In 2011, a woman in a Catholic hospital in Manchester, New Hampshire was miraculously brought back from the dead after being legally dead for five hours—using a wonderful new machine called a cardiac bypass machine. More significantly, the US Department of Defense is now very heavily involved. In 2010, it launched a thirty-four million dollar initiative called Biochronicity. According to the Department of Defense, the battlefield application would be the slowing down or the stopping of time, making a wounded soldier able to survive longer—or even survive indefinitely—so that he can be transported somewhere to treat the injury, and then reverse that “suspended state” (between life and death).1 It was probably the decidedly “sour vinegar”-tasting Biochronicity.drug called LY294002 (or LY) that was administered to Jesus on the cross and caused Him to immediately “give up the ghost” for 3 days and 3 nights (and it was not the stress of the cross or the Roman soldier's sword—see Matthew 27:48-50).

The Revelation seems to indicate, or signify, that the first raising of the dead will happen on the battlefield, in the final battle between good and evil. If that is the case, the first resurrection of the dead will most probably take place in the US hospital in the Green Zone in Baghdad, in the epicenter of the Battle of Ar Mageddon.

As for humans being able to live to be a thousand years old, scientists say that is also inevitable with all the advancements in medicine and technology nowadays. Many scientists say that threshold will be reached by 2045. I will go out on a limb here, and predict it will happen much sooner than that. With the advances being made in geriatrics and with the introduction, beginning in 2017, of CRISPR3 technology that scientists say will soon lick cancer and pretty much every disease there is, I predict that a human born in 2017 will be the first to live to be 1000 years old (as some scientists are also saying4). One thing is for sure. It will happen, and happen soon, because Jesus said it will, and (as always is the case) Jesus and scientists agree 100 percent. They all say it is just a matter of when and not if or maybe.

Humans are very close to being able to do everything that God can do just as signified in Genesis.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   11:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#55)

No the bible doesn't say that. You bear false witness. Dece8ving and being deceived.

I am not sure what you are referring to, but I can assure you that the Bible does indeed say everything I say it does. Tell me what you are referring to and I will gladly give you the chapter and verse.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   11:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: interpreter (#56)

1 It was probably the decidedly “sour vinegar”-tasting Biochronicity.drug called LY294002 (or LY) that was administered to Jesus on the cross and caused Him to immediately “give up the ghost” for 3 days and 3 nights (and it was not the stress of the cross or the Roman soldier's sword—see Matthew 27:48-50).

You are denying the Miracle of the Resurrection, saying it was the work of man and not God.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-27   11:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: interpreter, A K A Stone (#57)

Tell me what you are referring to and I will gladly give you the chapter and verse.

Yeah - your own bizarre interpretation.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-27   11:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Deckard (#58)

You are denying the Miracle of the Resurrection, saying it was the work of man and not God.

Don't know why you would say that. It had to be God that supplied the drug, because I'm pretty sure that no one in the first century possessed a drug like that.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   11:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: interpreter (#60)

It had to be God that supplied the drug

You really think that God needs a drug to perform miracles?

The Resurrection of Christ was done by the power of God - not by some "drug", especially one that didn't exist in circa 33 A.D.

You're pushing the Illuminati agenda here bucko with your Da Vinci Code nonsense.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-27   12:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Deckard (#61) (Edited)

You really think that God needs a drug to perform miracles?

The Resurrection of Christ was done by the power of God - not by some "drug", especially one that didn't exist in circa 33 A.D.

You're pushing the Illuminati agenda here bucko with your Da Vinci Code nonsense.

I only repeat what the Bible says. It says someone gave Jesus something that instantly caused Him to "give up the ghost." Only a very powerful drug can do that, and certainly not common vinegar. Vinegar doesn't do that. And the same drug was first tested on Lazarus.

And Jesus needed a drug to perform some of His other miracles. Do you actually think that plain ordinary mud can cause a blind man to see? I suggest you read the miracles of Jesus again without your blinders on.

interpreter  posted on  2017-04-27   12:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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