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Title: It’s Time to Stop Pretending North Korea Is a Threat to the United States
Source:
Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/04/no_author/stop-pretending/
Published: Apr 21, 2017
Author: James Holbrooks
Post Date: 2017-04-21 05:32:05 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 10003
Comments: 32
North Korea is a threat, goes the narrative. And we, as loyal Americans, should fear the potentiality of that fact. That’s why U.S. aircraft carriers, accompanied by fighter jets and warships, are currently steaming toward the Korean Peninsula. That’s why the best soldiers the United States military has to offer are currently in South Korea, training — goes the narrative — to take out Kim Jong-un. That’s why Japan, staunch U.S. ally, is considering deploying troops to South Korea — in preparation for the time when that evil dictator from the north will try to harm Japanese nationals in the south. Conveniently, if Japan does deploy those troops — and, let’s be honest, they will — that will put the coalition of Japan, South Korea, and the United States together on the Korean peninsula. Consider that for a moment. They actually want us to believe that it would take the combined military might of the U.S., Japan, and South Korea to take out Kim Jong-un. There literally is no other way to look at it. As in all cases when it comes to geopolitical analysis, it helps to look at a map. North Korea is sandwiched between a U.S.-occupied territory to the south and a global superpower, China, to the north. In what universe does it make sense that Kim Jong-un would think attacking an “enemy” in the region would be beneficial? On Monday, Anti-Media reported on the fact that former Pentagon chief William Perry told CNN in November that North Korea would never strike first because, very simply, Kim doesn’t want to die. “I do not believe the North Korean regime is suicidal,” he said. “Therefore, I don’t believe they’re going to launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on anyone.” That’s because Kim has certainly applied to the situation what the mainstream narrative would like you to discard — common sense. With just a dash of it, any logical being can look at the events unfolding and see that North Korea poses no threat, to any surrounding nation, period. Which poses an immediate question: Why the military buildup in South Korea? China, incidentally, reportedly just deployed 150,000 troops to its border with North Korea. Much like Japan, the reason given was preparation. Preparation for war was the message between the words. But it wouldn’t be war with North Korea. That tiny strip of land is merely the buffer between two military juggernauts, the United States and China. That’s World War III, friends, and it has nothing to do with Kim Jong-un. And since we’re discussing the mainstream narrative, let’s look at the latest on that topic. From a New York Times piece that ran Tuesday: “Just over a week ago, the White House declared that ordering an American aircraft carrier into the Sea of Japan would send a powerful deterrent signal to North Korea and give President Trump more options in responding to the North’s provocative behavior. ‘We’re sending an armada,’ Mr. Trump said to Fox News last Tuesday afternoon. “The problem was that the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the three other warships in its strike force were that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.” This is a political machine that can’t even keep the narrative coherent within itself, much less the public. And they want us to believe. That’s the crux of it all. They need us to believe. If we don’t, it all falls apart — for them.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Russia also borders with NK. They are moving troops there and some navy. But as in the previous 1950-1953 Korean War, they will not engage directly - instead they provide support to China.
Using either conventional artillery in place or their nukes, the North Koreans can murder millions of SKoreans in Seoul in a matter of minutes. Was it Kim's common sense that led him to kill his own brother while overseas and with VX nerve gas? Or execute other relatives using anti-aircraft guns? And what about the millions who have died as a direct result of the cruel communist ideology of the entire Kim clan? Just more of that famous Kim "common sense"?
... Which poses an immediate question: Why the military buildup in South Korea? That may be so. But then again, it may not be. The logical answer is: there is no reason to let him be in the position to take out whole cities if he is. Kim Jong Un and North Korea cannot have nuclear weapons. Neither can Iran. They're too nasty, too unstable, too willing to murder people by conventional means, and too unyielding in their refusal to accept the norms of behavior of normal nations. They have brought this on themselves, and could take the pressure off by renouncing the drive for nuclear weapons and really meaning it. BUT THEY DON'T. They don't, because they WANT nuclear weapons. And we are never going to let that happen. We will go to war with them and destroy their capacity before we let them get deployable nukes. It's like a house full of gangsters move into the neighborhood, and start digging trenches to put in machine gun nests. You tell them to stop. You call the cops. If nobody does anything, you and your neighbors go TAKE THEM OUT before they can complete their machine gun nests.
Imperial overstretch is a problem for the United States, and the lessons of history may be applied for some guidance. This article does no such thing, it tries to use Aesop's Fable about the boy who cried wolf to prove that the wolf did not exist, when in fact the actual existence of the wolf was part of the lesson Aesop wished to impart. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
Sorry, Peabody, but those tens of thousands of Nork artillery pieces by the DMZ ready to open fire in minutes on downtown and suburban Seoul are no Aesop's Fable.
Read my post again, it agrees with you. Just because the boy screamed wolf, e.g Iraq, Syria, does not mean there is not a wolf. Getting dragged into the muddle east diverts our attention from a state which has seized a US Navy ship on the high seas, counterfeits the US dollar and threatens nuclear attacks against us. Also the Japanese must be surprised to learn from the article that the Norks do not pose a threat, the ones who were kidnapped from Japan in particular. Aesop teaches that we must be on guard against those who cry wolf, and be on guard against wolves also. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
So boy says again, "just because there was no wolf, does not mean there is not a wolf now!" And again, and again ... North Korea is not a wolf.
Oh, you're right. My bad. I thought you were disagreeing. Can I plead lack of enough coffee this morning? It wouldn't be true but it sounds kinda plausible.
Yes, it is. You could ask their own citizens but millions are dead as a result of the Kim's ruthless communist regime. I'm surprised you're so soft on them. You know what dogmatic Marxist totalitarian regimes are. And the Kims are as bad as Stalin or Mao. Maybe worse.
No, the boy has proven to be unreliable. With the AIPAC types like John McCain the chorus is that Saddam was North Korea, Assad is North Korea, Putin is is North Korea, etc. They cry wolf where the wolf was not. Just because John McCain and Lindsay Graham don't like someone, it does not make their enemy North Korea. And just because John McCain and Lindsay Graham do not like North Korea, it does not mean that North Korea is not North Korea. Wolves do exist, it's just that not every yipping Chihuahua is a wolf, a wolf is a wolf, and a Chihuahua is a Chihuahua. Just because John McCain calls a Chihuahua a wolf, it does not make a wolf a Chihuahua. Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
Ah, I've diagnosed your problem: listening to anything those two crackpot warmongers say. Admittedly, I did enjoy McStain's description at that recent NATO conference of Kim Jong-Il as "that fat crazy kid". It got reported a little then everyone hushed it up. Once a Navy man, always a Navy man. I thought it was the most accurate thing the Stain had said in years.
Do you want to go to war with them?
No. But you seem to be excusing a hard Communist totalitarian regime, one of the last remaining along with Cuba. Poverty and death to millions is what you get from these regimes. And a willingness to proliferate WMDs.
To hear is not to listen.;<) Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria
Poverty and death to millions is what you get from these regimes. And a willingness to proliferate WMDs. I do not have a reliable information about those countries. The only sources available are the same media that reported incubator babies stories about Iraq, death and rape camps about Serbia and many more ... Beside I am not in judging business, maybe I am not as righteous as you.
You coward. You should be ashamed of yourself. The only way you don't know what those regimes are is because you refuse to face the truth.
The only way you don't know what those regimes are is because you refuse to face the truth. You are very mistaken. To refuse to participate in Orwellian Two Minutes Hate requires courage.
You aren't refusing to participate in a Hate. You're providing aid and comfort to known enemies of humanity who have a track record of many decades of the most brutal and inhuman treatment of their own citizens and posing a menace to the free countries of the West. You're a moral coward, trying to cover himself with glory.
But if I accept your views, and believe mass media I will be a hero in your eyes. Wow. Are you a member of the Inner Party? Or some totalitarian bloodthirsty sect?
Not just "mass media" (who are not wrong about this) but all of the churches and their aid organizations, all the human rights organizations, all condemn these brutal regimes. The evidence against Cuba and North Korea is as certain as anything we know about any regime. No one defends them at all. Except you.
They all do? So why do you need guys like me to join Freedom Fries mindset? Is it you Mr Powell?
Go to hell. You're worse than a Holocaust denier.
Oh my! I must have touched some sore nerve in you. Does "Tooconservative" stand for Neoconservative?
Don't bother to post to me. I'm done reading your tripe if you're going to defend the genocidal Kim dynasty in North Korea and the cruel Castro regime in Cuba.
No, you are not my boss and I will not give you the last word. Use filter. "worse than a Holocaust denier" Ridiculous, you mean people who did not believe in WMDs in Iraq are like Adolf Eichmann or Jeffrey Dahmer? Now Iraq and Libya are much better off, as Madelaine the Mean said: "The deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children was worth it" for Iraq's non existent WMD's In Vietnam more than 2 million innocent people died. You want few million deaths in Korea or Cuba?
You're a disgrace and a self-righteous hypocrite.
And you are a miscreant and sanctimonious pharisee. ;) I still like you. Let us agree to disagree, OK?
You have altered my view of you. No, I will not agree to disagree about the Kims and the Castros. I am willing to at least discuss the Putins and the Assads of the world but I draw the line at genocide practiced openly for decades.
You do realize that communist have killed probably 100 million innocent people. That communism if not stopped will murder 100 to 1. Its not really a choice its a matter of when people stand up to these people because borders are meaningless to communist and radical islam.
Please, do not feel offended. But I suspect that you are picking the blue pill. The guys you tend to support are worse.
Yeah, sure. And Serbs murdered hundreds of thousands of Albanians and Muslims in the death/rape camps.
Not helping your cause. Serbs are communist.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
They actually want us to believe that it would take the combined military might of the U.S., Japan, and South Korea to take out Kim Jong-un. There literally is no other way to look at it.
That’s because Kim has certainly applied to the situation what the mainstream narrative would like you to discard — common sense. With just a dash of it, any logical being can look at the events unfolding and see that North Korea poses no threat, to any surrounding nation, period.
#3. To: Deckard (#0)
“I do not believe the North Korean regime is suicidal,” he said. “Therefore, I don’t believe they’re going to launch an unprovoked nuclear attack on anyone.”
#4. To: Tooconservative (#2)
Using either conventional artillery in place or their nukes, the North Koreans can murder millions of SKoreans in Seoul in a matter of minutes.
#5. To: nativist nationalist (#4)
(Edited)
#6. To: Tooconservative (#5)
Sorry, Peabody, but those tens of thousands of Nork artillery pieces by the DMZ ready to open fire in minutes on downtown and suburban Seoul are no Aesop's Fable.
#7. To: nativist nationalist, Tooconservative (#6)
(Edited)
Read my post again, it agrees with you. Just because the boy screamed wolf, e.g Iraq, Syria, does not mean there is not a wolf.
#8. To: nativist nationalist (#6)
Read my post again, it agrees with you.
#9. To: A Pole (#7)
North Korea is not a wolf.
#10. To: A Pole, Tooconservative (#7)
So boy says again, "just because there was no wolf, does not mean there is not a wolf now!" And again, and again ...
#11. To: nativist nationalist, A Pole (#10)
(Edited)
Just because John McCain and Lindsay Graham don't like someone, it does not make their enemy North Korea. And just because John McCain and Lindsay Graham do not like North Korea, it does not mean that North Korea is not North Korea.
#12. To: Tooconservative (#9)
I'm surprised you're so soft on them. You know what dogmatic Marxist totalitarian regimes are.
#13. To: A Pole (#12)
#14. To: Tooconservative (#11)
Ah, I've diagnosed your problem: listening to anything those two crackpot warmongers say.
#15. To: Tooconservative (#13)
you seem to be excusing a hard Communist totalitarian regime, one of the last remaining along with Cuba.
#16. To: A Pole (#15)
I do not have a reliable information about those countries. ... Beside I am not in judging business, maybe I am not as righteous as you.
#17. To: Tooconservative (#16)
You coward. You should be ashamed of yourself.
#18. To: A Pole (#17)
To refuse to participate in Orwellian Two Minutes Hate requires courage.
#19. To: Tooconservative (#18)
You're a moral coward, trying to cover himself with glory.
You're providing aid and comfort to known enemies of humanity
#20. To: A Pole (#19)
But if I accept your views, and believe mass media I will be a hero in your eyes.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#20)
Not just "mass media" (who are not wrong about this) but all of the churches and their aid organizations, all the human rights organizations, all condemn these brutal regimes.
#22. To: A Pole (#21)
#23. To: Tooconservative (#22)
Go to hell.You're worse than a Holocaust denier.
#24. To: A Pole (#23)
(Edited)
#25. To: Tooconservative (#24)
Don't bother to post to me.
#26. To: A Pole (#25)
#27. To: Tooconservative (#26)
You're a disgrace and a self-righteous hypocrite.
#28. To: A Pole (#27)
Let us agree to disagree, OK?
#29. To: A Pole (#25)
#30. To: Tooconservative (#28)
I will not agree to disagree about the Kims and the Castros.
#31. To: Justified (#29)
You do realize that communist have killed probably 100 million innocent people.
#32. To: A Pole (#31)
Yeah, sure. And Serbs murdered hundreds of thousands of Albanians and Muslims in the death/rape camps.
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