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Brit's Want Their Country Back Inside Paris Dangerous ANTIFA Riots Status: Not Logged In; Sign In International News See other International News Articles Title: BREAKING: US drops LARGEST non-nuclear bomb in combat for FIRST time Source: the Sun URL Source: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat ... t-Bomb-ISIS-tunnel-Afghanistan Published: Apr 13, 2017 Author: Tom Evans Post Date: 2017-04-13 12:48:54 by cranky Keywords: None Views: 4321 Comments: 33 THE United States has dropped a Massive Ordnance Air Blast Bomb – the largest non-nuclear weapon in its arsenal – on an ISIS tunnel target in Afghanistan. The bomb was dropped in Afghanistan's Nangarhar province, the Pentagon has confirmed. The blast radius is believed to be over 300 meters and the weapon is described as "the father of all bombs". It is the very first time the weapon has been used in combat. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 17. #1. To: cranky (#0) That's got to be about the most tabloidy website I've seen. It ranks up there with Infowars. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-13   13:04:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Tooconservative (#1) That's got to be about the most tabloidy website I've seen. You appear to be unduly impressed by aesthetics. cranky  posted on  2017-04-13   13:30:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #4. To: cranky, Gatlin, sneakypete (#3) How about accuracy? 'The blast radius is believed to be over 300 meters and the weapon is described as "the father of all bombs".' MOAB is stands for Mother Of All Bombs. The Russians have developed one that they claim is 4 times as powerful and that one is called the "Father Of All Bombs". These are thermobaric bombs, something that came up recently on another thread. Seriously, it's a bad article. It leaves readers less informed overall than if they hadn't read the article at all. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-13   14:05:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #5. To: Tooconservative (#4) Trump is allowing the generals to do something Obama never did. That is, the commanders decide what to do and then go ahead and do it. "Assign responsibility and delegate authority!" “You da man,” Donald – “Git ‘er done” … Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-13   14:34:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #8. To: Gatlin (#5) (Edited) Trump is allowing the generals to do something Obama never did. That is, the commanders decide what to do and then go ahead and do it. First use of a weapon we've kept in reserve in the arsenal since 2003? I think Trump did give the order to use it. That mushroom cloud image was a message too. For Iran, for NKorea. For Assad. And of course the Pentagon has many many plans for using our weapons against our enemies. That's their job, to be ready to attack anything and everything if they're ordered to. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-13   15:56:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: Tooconservative (#8) Trump is allowing the generals to do something Obama never did. That is, the commanders decide what to do and then go ahead and do it. I think Trump did give the order to use it. Nope….not Trump, the GC in Afghanistan made the decision. I told you Trump was “assigning responsibility and delegating authority.” Here is but one of the many places that I have seen these types of remarks: Trump Has Freed U.S. Military From WH Micromanagement Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-14   18:09:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: Gatlin (#11) Here is but one of the many places that I have seen these types of remarks: Yeah, I saw the commander on TV. Well, I guess it is legal if Trump just delegates all his command decisions to others. Apparently, that is what you prefer as well. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-14   18:17:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #13. To: Tooconservative (#12) (Edited) Here is but one of the many places that I have seen these types of remarks: Yeah, I saw the commander Lieutenant Colonel on TV. Well, I guess it is legal if Trump just delegates all his command decisions to others. Apparently, that is what you prefer as well. “Prefer?” Nah….“taught” that as a matter of policy and procedure. Delegation of Authority – The action by which a commander assigns part of his or her authority commensurate with the assigned task [the part of “assigned responsibility” when used with “delegate authority”] to a subordinate commander. While ultimate responsibility cannot be relinquished, delegation of authority carries with it the imposition of a measure of responsibility. The extent of the authority delegated must be clearly stated. One restriction to the delegation of authority is only the President can direct the use of nuclear weapons by U.S. armed forces. The President's order is subject to secondary confirmation by the Secretary of Defense. Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-14   19:29:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #14. To: Gatlin (#13) (Edited) Delegation of Authority – So far, we have heard in several reports that this attack with the MOAB was planned for months by the general in charge and that the weapon had been moved there, apparently in January or February. It sounds like this was started in November or December, that it was in fact authorized originally by 0bama, much as the SEAL raid in Yemen had been authorized by 0bama but executed after Trump became prez. You seem to want to believe that Trump just let it continue until the commander struck. I think Trump probably gave the order and was briefed on the target like you would expect any president would be. Given the fuss over the 21,000lb MOAB, it seems people have forgotten our repeated use of 15,000lb daisycutters on...the very same complex of tunnels and caves at Tora Bora. CBS, 2001: US bombs al Qaeda cave with "daisy cutter" You have to wonder if there was something specific the general was after. Back then, we were chasing alleged sitings of Osama bin Laden who was very familiar with the region. We haven't hit those caves/tunnels like this in a long time. The way the media is going MOAB-crazy, you'd think they never heard of these big terror-bombs before. I was surprised they claimed only 34 dead from the blast. I guess I was expecting a lot more than that from such an expensive bomb. One could achieve much the same effect from more conventional bombs dropped by B-52s so they must have had some particular target or purpose in using this particular bomb and it was a target that existed for months or that they believed would pop up at the cave/tunnels for some time. All I'm saying is we really don't know the half of what they were up to with this MOAB. They decided not to tell us. You'd think it would have to be something like taking out a meeting of the senior leadership of the ISIS group in eastern Afghanistan to rate so much planning and the use of a rare MOAB bomb from our stockpile of 15 units. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-14   20:13:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #16. To: Tooconservative (#14) … much as the SEAL raid in Yemen had been authorized by 0bama but executed after Trump became prez. I don’t know where you are getting that, but you can believe what you want to. The only problem is, a former Obama administration official said differently, the former Obama administration official said the raid carried out was never specifically discussed in the White House when Barack Obama was president. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/02/02/pentagon- and-white-house-defend-planning-in-deadly-seal-team-raid-in-yemen/? utm_term=.46f052ec1342 Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-14   21:14:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: Gatlin (#16) (Edited) I don’t know where you are getting that, but you can believe what you want to. They announced that they had been waiting for some time to try to catch a group of the Yemenis at the site. And then they were waiting for a full moon which is why it waited until Trump was in office. At least, that is what they told the press. But if you'd rather believe 0bama cronies than the Pentagon and the Trump WH, go ahead. Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-14   21:35:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 17. #20. To: Tooconservative (#17) And then they were waiting for a full moon which is why it waited until Trump was in office. My God, man….where are you getting this shit? It was decided it would be best to carry the raid out in the dark of a “moonless night, and it was. “Full moon!” Geeze … Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-14 21:59:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: Tooconservative (#17) But if you'd rather believe 0bama cronies than the Pentagon and the Trump WH, go ahead. It is not a case of me wanting to believe anyone. I am merely pointing out, as I always have, there are conflicting reports and those should be considered. Never believe what you first read….and above all, never believe something merely because it is what you want to believe. Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-14 22:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 17. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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