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Title: Rand Paul: Trump needs Congress to authorize military action in Syria
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... nal-authorization-for-military
Published: Apr 7, 2017
Author: BROOKE SEIPE
Post Date: 2017-04-07 00:30:02 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 2641
Comments: 25

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) asserted Thursday night that President Trump needs congressional authorization for military action in Syria after Trump ordered an airstrike in the country following a deadly chemical attack earlier this week.

"While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked," Paul said in a statement shortly after reports that the U.S. had launched more than 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an airfield in Syria.

"The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate," Paul said. "Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer, and Syria will be no different."

Paul expressed similar sentiments earlier Thursday amid reports that the Trump administration was considering a strike. Earlier this week, President Bashar Assad's forces reportedly used chemical weapons against opponents in Syria's years-long civil war.

A number of Democrats on Thursday night also urged caution after the Trump administration struck at an airfield near the city of Homs, where it said a gas attack originated earlier this week.

Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) sided with Paul on Twitter, saying that Trump "can use military force in defense of US. But attacking #Assad regime requires congressional approval."

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) also called the strike "an act of war" on Twitter, saying that "Congress needs to come back into session & hold a debate. Anything less is an abdication of our responsibility."

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Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-07   0:55:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Here’s your damned “red line” Obama …
Trump demonstrates comfort with military action in ordering missile strikes in Syria.

Trump Shows He Is Willing to Act Forcefully, Quickly.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-07   1:15:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

Here’s your damned “red line” Obama … Trump demonstrates comfort with military action in ordering missile strikes in Syria.

Trump Shows He Is Willing to Act Forcefully, Quickly.

HOW is that a good thing?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   3:01:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

HOW is that a good thing?

Unites the country more, with an easy victory over a cartoon villain.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-07   9:52:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

HOW is that a good thing?

Unites the country more, with an easy victory over a cartoon villain.

Are you,a devout Catholic,telling me,a devout agnostic,that morality should take a backseat to political convenience?

What are you,a Jesuit?

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   15:47:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#6)

Smacking Assad is a just war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-07   16:33:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

Smacking Assad is a just war.

"Onward Christian murderers,rapists,and looters"?

Kinda reminds me of the Crusades.

BTW,I hope you are planning on enlisting for the infantry.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   18:51:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#9)

BTW,I hope you are planning on enlisting for the infantry.

Fight the war right and you NEVER use the infantry. You NEVER put boots on the ground. You just bomb them whenever you please, destroy everything they have from the sky, leave them in the dark, dying of thirst, and unable to rebuild anything until they surrender.

And if they won't, then you just keep squashing them like roaches, year after year, from the sky, without taking any casualties at all.

You use air power to either force them to terms or, if they are stubborn fucks who won't come to terms, you use them as live target practice for your pilots for decades. Either way, they suffer unending horror until they finally give up. And you don't lose a single soldier.

We don't need to send in the infantry. Shouldn't have in Vietnam. We should have just wholesale bombed Hanoi and Haiphong and everywhere else for ten years, dropped incendiaries, dropped nukes - treated Vietnam like Germany or Japan in 1945, and kept on doing it, from the air, from the sea - wreck them and never let them get up. If they want to live in the stone age, keep them there. Without the US troop losses we could STILL be slaughtering Vietnamese with impunity if we felt like it.

We wouldn't have needed to - the bombing pressure on Hanoi in 1973 forced them to terms. We should have been doing that all along, from the beginning, and never sent in the army.

Today with drones and precision munitions we can get a long closer to the ground and kill individuals in tents and buildings, and risk no American troops doing it.

That is the kind of war I favor. Forget troops on the ground, just keep bombing them and striking them, on and on. It's good for the defense industry too, keeps the munitions pipelines flowing.

Once you put troops on the ground, they can hurt you. We already know that Muslims are not going to be governable anyway, so putting troops on the ground in their countries just gives them the chance to hurt you by killing your troops, and eventually causing the pain to cause the American public to end the war. You can't break their will because they are religious fanatics. So just kill them from the skies and wreck their lives and countries, leave them living in the 7th Century they so desperately want to go back to.

We can't change their minds, but we can kill them without risk to ourselves. So we should.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-08   7:36:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

Fight the war right and you NEVER use the infantry. You NEVER put boots on the ground. You just bomb them whenever you please, destroy everything they have from the sky, leave them in the dark, dying of thirst, and unable to rebuild anything until they surrender.

THE biggest lie ever told. With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

You NEVER win a war,ANY war,until you have your infantry occupying the enemy homeland and in total control.

It's obvious you have never been in a war.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-08   10:14:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#14)

THE biggest lie ever told. With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

You NEVER win a war,ANY war,until you have your infantry occupying the enemy homeland and in total control.

It's obvious you have never been in a war.

Times are changing from when you were in Vietnam.

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone. And without losing a single man to enemy action.

With airpower alone, and precision munitions, we can do today what could not be done in 1945.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-09   6:55:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#17)

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone.

This is not true.

Serbs did not budge an inch for three months. And Western leaders started to get nervous because if they sent troops, they quite likely would end up in defeat.

So they went to Yeltsin to arrange a fair compromise to save face. Serbs trusted Russians so they went along and let some Western troops to be present temporarily in Kosovo.

And it ended the usual way. West broke the word and the treaty and gave Kosovo to Albanian mafia. Side effect - Yeltsin had to go and Putin replaced him.

Have you really forgotten this stuff?

A Pole  posted on  2017-04-09   7:07:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: A Pole, Vicomte13 (#19)

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone.

This is not true.

Serbs did not budge an inch for three months. And Western leaders started to get nervous because if they sent troops, they quite likely would end up in defeat.

So they went to Yeltsin to arrange a fair compromise to save face. Serbs trusted Russians so they went along and let some Western troops to be present temporarily in Kosovo.

And it ended the usual way. West broke the word and the treaty and gave Kosovo to Albanian mafia. Side effect - Yeltsin had to go and Putin replaced him.

Have you really forgotten this stuff?

Repeated in full because it needs to be heard over and over until the message finally sinks in.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09 14:01:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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