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Title: Rand Paul: Trump needs Congress to authorize military action in Syria
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief ... nal-authorization-for-military
Published: Apr 7, 2017
Author: BROOKE SEIPE
Post Date: 2017-04-07 00:30:02 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 2127
Comments: 25

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) asserted Thursday night that President Trump needs congressional authorization for military action in Syria after Trump ordered an airstrike in the country following a deadly chemical attack earlier this week.

"While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked," Paul said in a statement shortly after reports that the U.S. had launched more than 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an airfield in Syria.

"The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate," Paul said. "Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer, and Syria will be no different."

Paul expressed similar sentiments earlier Thursday amid reports that the Trump administration was considering a strike. Earlier this week, President Bashar Assad's forces reportedly used chemical weapons against opponents in Syria's years-long civil war.

A number of Democrats on Thursday night also urged caution after the Trump administration struck at an airfield near the city of Homs, where it said a gas attack originated earlier this week.

Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) sided with Paul on Twitter, saying that Trump "can use military force in defense of US. But attacking #Assad regime requires congressional approval."

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) also called the strike "an act of war" on Twitter, saying that "Congress needs to come back into session & hold a debate. Anything less is an abdication of our responsibility."

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#1. To: All (#0)

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-07   0:55:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Here’s your damned “red line” Obama …
Trump demonstrates comfort with military action in ordering missile strikes in Syria.

Trump Shows He Is Willing to Act Forcefully, Quickly.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-07   1:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#0)

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) asserted Thursday night that President Trump needs congressional authorization for military action in Syria after Trump ordered an airstrike in the country following a deadly chemical attack earlier this week.

"While we all condemn the atrocities in Syria, the United States was not attacked," Paul said in a statement shortly after reports that the U.S. had launched more than 50 Tomahawk cruise missiles against an airfield in Syria.

"The President needs congressional authorization for military action as required by the Constitution, and I call on him to come to Congress for a proper debate," Paul said. "Our prior interventions in this region have done nothing to make us safer, and Syria will be no different."

And......,he knocks it out of the park!

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   2:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

Here’s your damned “red line” Obama … Trump demonstrates comfort with military action in ordering missile strikes in Syria.

Trump Shows He Is Willing to Act Forcefully, Quickly.

HOW is that a good thing?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   3:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#4)

HOW is that a good thing?

Unites the country more, with an easy victory over a cartoon villain.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-07   9:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

HOW is that a good thing?

Unites the country more, with an easy victory over a cartoon villain.

Are you,a devout Catholic,telling me,a devout agnostic,that morality should take a backseat to political convenience?

What are you,a Jesuit?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   15:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: sneakypete (#6)

Smacking Assad is a just war.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-07   16:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

Unites the country more, with an easy victory over a cartoon villain.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2017-04-07   18:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#7)

Smacking Assad is a just war.

"Onward Christian murderers,rapists,and looters"?

Kinda reminds me of the Crusades.

BTW,I hope you are planning on enlisting for the infantry.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   18:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nativist nationalist (#8)

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

We don't speak nunna that fancy French stuff here,Pedro!

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-07   18:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: sneakypete (#10)

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

We don't speak nunna that fancy French stuff here,Pedro!

Actually it's Latin, a quote by Marcus Furius Camillus, my tagline, I've had it for a while.

Somehow the image I posted (in response to "...an easy victory over a cartoon villain") was cut off; let's try again.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2017-04-07   19:16:14 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#9)

BTW,I hope you are planning on enlisting for the infantry.

Fight the war right and you NEVER use the infantry. You NEVER put boots on the ground. You just bomb them whenever you please, destroy everything they have from the sky, leave them in the dark, dying of thirst, and unable to rebuild anything until they surrender.

And if they won't, then you just keep squashing them like roaches, year after year, from the sky, without taking any casualties at all.

You use air power to either force them to terms or, if they are stubborn fucks who won't come to terms, you use them as live target practice for your pilots for decades. Either way, they suffer unending horror until they finally give up. And you don't lose a single soldier.

We don't need to send in the infantry. Shouldn't have in Vietnam. We should have just wholesale bombed Hanoi and Haiphong and everywhere else for ten years, dropped incendiaries, dropped nukes - treated Vietnam like Germany or Japan in 1945, and kept on doing it, from the air, from the sea - wreck them and never let them get up. If they want to live in the stone age, keep them there. Without the US troop losses we could STILL be slaughtering Vietnamese with impunity if we felt like it.

We wouldn't have needed to - the bombing pressure on Hanoi in 1973 forced them to terms. We should have been doing that all along, from the beginning, and never sent in the army.

Today with drones and precision munitions we can get a long closer to the ground and kill individuals in tents and buildings, and risk no American troops doing it.

That is the kind of war I favor. Forget troops on the ground, just keep bombing them and striking them, on and on. It's good for the defense industry too, keeps the munitions pipelines flowing.

Once you put troops on the ground, they can hurt you. We already know that Muslims are not going to be governable anyway, so putting troops on the ground in their countries just gives them the chance to hurt you by killing your troops, and eventually causing the pain to cause the American public to end the war. You can't break their will because they are religious fanatics. So just kill them from the skies and wreck their lives and countries, leave them living in the 7th Century they so desperately want to go back to.

We can't change their minds, but we can kill them without risk to ourselves. So we should.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-08   7:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

That is the kind of war I favor.

How about favoring no fucking war at all and keeping or goddamned noses out of quarrels that are non of our business? Which is what most of the vets I know strongly believe.

Bombs nor boots solve nothin'. That is because when "we" decide to go in somewhere on some specious pretext or other, the objective is not to solve anything. It is just to cause chaos.

randge  posted on  2017-04-08   9:13:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#12)

Fight the war right and you NEVER use the infantry. You NEVER put boots on the ground. You just bomb them whenever you please, destroy everything they have from the sky, leave them in the dark, dying of thirst, and unable to rebuild anything until they surrender.

THE biggest lie ever told. With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

You NEVER win a war,ANY war,until you have your infantry occupying the enemy homeland and in total control.

It's obvious you have never been in a war.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-08   10:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: randge (#13)

How about favoring no fucking war at all and keeping or goddamned noses out of quarrels that are non of our business?

THERE IT IS!

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-08   10:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: sneakypete (#14)

With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

Maybe that's true if you forget fire bombings in Germany, Japan, and Hanoi.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-04-08   13:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#14)

THE biggest lie ever told. With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

You NEVER win a war,ANY war,until you have your infantry occupying the enemy homeland and in total control.

It's obvious you have never been in a war.

Times are changing from when you were in Vietnam.

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone. And without losing a single man to enemy action.

With airpower alone, and precision munitions, we can do today what could not be done in 1945.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-09   6:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: randge (#13)

Boots and bombed obtained American Independence, the liberation of the slaves, the near- doubling of the size of the United States, Cuban and Filipino independence, victory in two World Wars over aggressive powers, and a free and thriving South Korea, for starters.

There are wars worth fighting, with outcomes that are good for our people.

We must be judicious about when we fight them, but America came into existence because of war. Without war, we would still all be living in Europe under kings, or be kings ourselves if we are winners of the lucky sperm club.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-04-09   6:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Vicomte13, sneakypete (#17)

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone.

This is not true.

Serbs did not budge an inch for three months. And Western leaders started to get nervous because if they sent troops, they quite likely would end up in defeat.

So they went to Yeltsin to arrange a fair compromise to save face. Serbs trusted Russians so they went along and let some Western troops to be present temporarily in Kosovo.

And it ended the usual way. West broke the word and the treaty and gave Kosovo to Albanian mafia. Side effect - Yeltsin had to go and Putin replaced him.

Have you really forgotten this stuff?

A Pole  posted on  2017-04-09   7:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: no gnu taxes (#16)

With the exception of nukes,all bombing a population does is piss them off and make them dig in harder.

Maybe that's true if you forget fire bombings in Germany, Japan, and Hanoi.

I didn't forget about them at all. ALL they accomplished was pissing off the population that MIGHT have been interested in ending the war a little earlier by overthrowing their govenment.

Bombing someone's home,especially with incendiaries,REALLY tends to piss people off and make them think you really ARE as evil as Maximum Leader has been screeching.

BTW,PLEASE notice that Hanoi never gave up despite the most concentrated bombing attacks in history,Germany didn't give up until we had infantry occupying Berlin,and Japan didn't give up until we used nukes.

In he case of Germany and Japan,neither were defeated until we were occupying their home land,and Hanoi never quit fighting until the occupied SVN.

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   13:55:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone.

HorseHillary! In case you didn't notice,there were a awful lot of people running around on the ground carrying rifles,and "WE" didn't win the war. We just assisted the people that did.

Times are changing from when you were in Vietnam.

Warfare NEVER changes. Only some of the methods change,but the one thing that is the truest thing you have ever heard is "You have NOT defeated your enemy until you are occupying his home land after disarming and disassembling his army."

Anything less is about as important as Unicorn Farts.

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   13:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A Pole, Vicomte13 (#19)

We won the Kosovo war and achieved Kosovar independence with airpower alone.

This is not true.

Serbs did not budge an inch for three months. And Western leaders started to get nervous because if they sent troops, they quite likely would end up in defeat.

So they went to Yeltsin to arrange a fair compromise to save face. Serbs trusted Russians so they went along and let some Western troops to be present temporarily in Kosovo.

And it ended the usual way. West broke the word and the treaty and gave Kosovo to Albanian mafia. Side effect - Yeltsin had to go and Putin replaced him.

Have you really forgotten this stuff?

Repeated in full because it needs to be heard over and over until the message finally sinks in.

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

ISLAM MEANS SUBMISSION!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-09   14:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#20)

Shit, Japs, were emerging from caves 20 years after the war ended.

You don't bomb people to make them like you. You bomb people to make them realize that is in their best interest to submit to you.

At what what point did you become some kind of hippy dippy freak.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2017-04-10   15:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: no gnu taxes (#23)

Shit, Japs, were emerging from caves 20 years after the war ended.

Ah ha….I do well remember that.

I was TDY to Guam in January 1972 when ShMichi Yokoi was discovered in the jungles of Guam.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-10   15:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: no gnu taxes (#23)

At what what point did you become some kind of hippy dippy freak.

At what point did you become a fool?

BOYCOTT PAYPAL AND CLOSE YOUR PP ACCOUNTS NOW! ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO DO SO,TOO!

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Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

American Indians had open borders. Look at how well that worked out for them.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-04-10   20:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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