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Title: What a waste! Enough already!
Source: www.news.com.au
URL Source: http://www.news.com.au/world/middle ... 4778dec4cb259c3a87e83deaf36d05
Published: Apr 4, 2017
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2017-04-04 22:49:09 by paraclete
Keywords: Sarin gas, Syria
Views: 3200
Comments: 20

Dump blames a gas attack in Syria on Obama, pointing to ineffectual action. But where is his action? he has a mandate under UN resolutions to move now that gas attacks have taken place, it doesn't matter who did it, blame is not the answer, these weapons are banned, so there should be an immediate move into Syria, to stop this fighting and rout out and destroy these weapons. Should a few rebels or Assad supporters get killed in the process this is no worse than what has been taking place for six years.

If Dump does less than Obama he will be judged, so less big mouth and twitter and more action, what does it take to get troops on the ground and an end to this conflict. in this I am not just calling for US action, but world action. We need more than speeches deploring gas attacks.

They can assign blame later, action now.

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#5. To: paraclete, hondo68 (#0)

Not taking the bait: Sean Spicer ignores false flag chemical attack in Syria

The fundamental reasons why the report of a Syrian chemical attack is fake news are laid out in full in an initial debunking report from The Duran.

Since that piece was published, propaganda photos were published showing the infamous al-Qaeda allied White Helmets handling the bodies of supposed sarin gas attack victims.

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Paul Antonopoulos of the highly reliable al-Masdar News breaks down why the photos are clearly staged, saying:

"....White Helmets are handling the corpses of people without sufficient safety gear, most particularly with the masks mostly used, as well as no gloves. Although this may seem insignificant, understanding the nature of sarin gas that the opposition claim was used, only opens questions.

Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the affects of the gas begins to target the muscle and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced.

When sarin is used in a concentrated area, it has the likelihood of killing thousands of people. Yet, such a dangerous gas, and the White Helmets are treating bodies with little concern to their exposed skin. This has to raise questions. It also raises the question why a doctor in a hospital full of victims of sarin gas has the time to tweet and make video calls. This will probably be dismissed and forgotten however"

Shortly after the incident in Idlib, a suspiciously well timed piece from the White Helmets founder, falsely claiming to be the head of Syrian Civil Defence, was published in Britain's Guardian newspaper, urging EU leaders not to reach any kind of deal with the legitimate government of Syria during tomorrow's peace talks in Brussels.

The story which on the most fundamental evidence was clearly fake, now looks like a well timed false flag propaganda move.

It's a pity that just as those in the western mainstream media have come to realise that the term 'false flag' is am actual thing, they still haven't come to grips with what it means.

It seems that for once, the White House is not taking the bait.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-05   6:53:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#5)

The fundamental reasons why the report of a Syrian chemical attack is fake news are laid out in full in an initial debunking report from The Duran.

I think the rebels might easily have found or been given elements from Assad's stockpile. Or even Saddam's old sarin stockpile. The rumor was that a truck convoy went from Iraq to Syria and that Saddam got Assad (his fellow-Ba'athist) to harbor his chemical weapons. Not as surprising as Saddam getting Iran, his enemy in an 8-year war, to harbor fighter aircraft so we wouldn't destroy all of them.

We also know that most of the brains behind ISIS are Saddam's former intel staffers, high up in his intel service. This accounts for the kind of careful planning and sophisticated propaganda and psy-ops they've conducted in Iraq and in Syria.

So ISIS as an organization of mostly ex-Saddam loyalists might have access to hidden stockpiles of sarin and they could be using those to launch an attack so that Assad would be blamed.

It seems to me that we would have more evidence by now if Assad was responsible. I do know the rebels, both al-Qaeda/al-Nusra and ISIS, are both losing so their only hope is to get outsiders to take Assad down for them or to ground his air forces.

And then we see Assad's air force has dropped barrel bombs on military targets (of which there is no doubt). However Assad hasn't targeted civilians with the barrel bombs. So why would Assad avoid targeting civilians with barrel bombs and then suddenly decide to attack civilians with sarin gas (assuming that is what it actually is).

Assad has other powerful enemies in the region and certainly among the NATO intel services. The rebels could also acquire sarin from outside the country, from the Saudis/Qataris/Kuwaitis for instance. And it doesn't take a major lab to produce enough sarin to kill 70 people.

I also find it suspicious that only 70 were killed. If Assad was going to do a major gas attack on his own civilian population, you'd think he would do as Saddam did decades back when he attacked and murdered thousands of Kurds in a single attack, striking where they were in high concentrations and crop-dusting the area (with a jet), not trying to use sarin from a single bomb (which is quite limited in its ability to spread and cause mass casualties.

It's pretty stupid to risk using sarin on civilians unless you think it wins a war for you. Otherwise, the chances are that it will unify the world against you, all for the sake of killing 70 civilians?

Like I said, a lot of this doesn't make sense. The same is true of most other accused incidents of gas warfare against Assad.

We do also have proof that ISIS did take over at least one chemical factory in Syria and try to produce their own lower-quality chlorine-based gas agent. It wasn't very effective. But what if they have a better lab and better supplies and some expert chemists helping them?

ISIS/al-Nusra are losing and losing badly. They have to have a game-changer to win or Assad will mop them up in coming months.

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