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Health/Medical Title: Pence presents new healthcare offer to Freedom Caucus Vice President Mike Pence and other White House officials presented an idea to the Freedom Caucus meeting to allow states to choose to apply for waivers to repeal two ObamaCare regulations that conservatives argue are driving up premiums. Those two regulations detail ObamaCare's essential health benefits, which mandate which health services insurers must cover, and "community rating," which prevents insurers from charging sick people higher premiums. Conservatives had previously called for the bill to repeal those regulations outright, but the deal now being discussed would give states a choice by allowing them to apply for a waiver from the federal government. Freedom Caucus members expressed openness to the proposal, but cautioned that they need to review the legislative text, which they hoped would be available within the next 24 hours. Multiple lawmakers said the White House is hoping to have a vote as soon as this week, though Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the Freedom Caucus chairman, cautioned against setting "artificial" deadlines. "There is no deal in principle; there is a solid idea that was offered," Meadows told reporters after the meeting. "We're certainly encouraged by the progress we seem to be making," he added. He said that repeal of the two regulations in question would provide enough "yes" votes to pass the bill, but cautioned that the Freedom Caucus needs to review the legislative language and make sure it is adequate. No lawmakers who were previously opposed to the bill have switched their position because there is currently a lack of detail, Meadows said Monday night. House leadership has not taken a hands-on approach so far to the revived negotiations, and as recently as a week ago was essentially saying the bill was dead. There is also the question of how moderates would respond to the proposal. Centrists previously objected to adding repeal of the essential health benefits to the bill. Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.), a member of the centrist Tuesday Group, argued that giving states the choice, and making them meet certain standards in putting together a waiver application, could allay centrist concerns. White House officials met with a group of centrists, as well as House Energy and Commerce Chairman Greg Walden (R-Ore.) earlier in the day. It's unclear whether the changes would pass muster under Senate rules governing a filibuster. Meadows indicated that officials are checking to at least make sure that the changes would not be "fatal" to the entire bill under the rules, though it is still possible the provisions would end up being struck out in the Senate. While Meadows emphasized that the ban on denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions would not be repealed, Democratic health experts point out that allowing insurers to charge sick people higher rates could effectively put coverage out of reach. Meadows argued that a "stability fund" under the measure could subsidize higher premiums to bring down the cost for sick people. Lawmakers are also looking at better directing those $115 billion in stability fund dollars to target them toward reducing premiums. Meadows indicated there would not be time for a Congressional Budget Office analysis of the changes if the new bill were voted on this week, which is sure to draw an outcry from some. That would mean lawmakers would not be certain of the cost or coverage effects of the bill when they voted. Poster Comment: They mention that Pence "and other White House officials" were present. No word on who those others were. For those paying attention, it was announced after the bill was pulled that the job of dealing with the Freedom Caucus was given to Steve "This is not a debate; you have no choice" Bannon. But now Pence is in the lead (as he should have been from the beginning). Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)
Good cop, bad cop.
You might check my newer thread. It has better info.
If the R's vote for a full repeal of Obamacare effective Dec 31, which could be done with zero dem support, then it could be followed with a replacement bill (if that's what they really want to do) which some dems would then be inclined to vote for, because it'll then it will be a "something is better than nothing" deal for them. That way, Freedom Caucus gets what they want in a full repeal, and if majority R's want a replacement, they can get Dem support on it to replace the freedom caucus voters who won't go along with it. That way, the new law will reflect what majority R's want, and Freedom Caucus members had their say too, instead of the current stalemate where a law is in place in spite of the fact that most congressmen want it at least scaled back. R's claimed the prior bill was part 1 of 3. Well, fine then. Just make part 1 a full repeal.
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