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Title: It’s on: White House social media director calls for primarying Freedom Caucus member Justin Amash
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URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2017/04/ ... om-caucus-member-justin-amash/
Published: Apr 1, 2017
Author: Allahpundit
Post Date: 2017-04-01 15:02:14 by Tooconservative
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Turns out when Trump tweeted early Thursday morning that we “must fight” the Freedom Caucus in 2018, that wasn’t just idle time-wasting while he was sitting on the can. Interesting that Dan Scavino, Trump’s official social-media guy, would zero in on Amash for threats instead of, say, Mark Meadows or Rand Paul, both of whom were more prominent critics of the failed House health-care bill. Amash’s sin seems not to be that he helped take down TrumpCare but that he’s been lippy about it. — Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 30, 2017 — Dan Scavino Jr. (@DanScavino) March 31, 2017 — Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 31, 2017 — Dan Scavino Jr. (@DanScavino) April 1, 2017 Amash was ready for that last tweet: — Justin Amash (@justinamash) April 1, 2017 Wouldn’t be the first term someone’s come at Amash in a primary. Business-class Republicans dislike him because of his libertarianism, which makes him a reliable “no” vote on federal spending. They recruited a primary challenger for him in 2014 with backing from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce; that candidate, Brian Ellis, accused Amash at one point of being “Al Qaeda’s best friend in Congress” due to his civil libertarian stances. Amash won that race 57/43, then went on to win the general election that year by nearly 20 points. Last year he won by more than 20 and in so doing outperformed Trump, who won Amash’s district by just 10 points over Clinton. Ousting Amash, you see, won’t be easy. And given how ideological he is, it’s a cinch that not only won’t he bend under Scavino’s threats (see the last tweet above as Exhibit A), he’ll use the extra media attention he’ll get from it to amplify his criticism. If Trump goes all-in now to try to beat him in a primary and Amash wins anyway, it’ll be the Renee Ellmers humiliation all over again but times 100. Relatedly, it was three weeks ago that the Examiner reported that Trump had warned House Republicans in a meeting that he’d back primary challenges to them if the health-care bill went belly up. The White House pushed back hard on that story at the time, insisting it never happened — which was smart spin given that the bill was still in play and a public rift between Trump and the Freedom Caucus would have only made it that much harder to find consensus. How does that Examiner story look now, though, three weeks later, with Trump vowing to “fight” the Freedom Caucus in 2018 and Scavino singling out individual members as targets? Amash isn’t even the only conservative to receive a communique from the White House that his seat is on the line. Mark Sanford claims Mick Mulvaney delivered a threat from Trump personally: “‘The president asked me to look you square in the eyes and to say that he hoped that you voted ‘no’ on this bill so he could run (a primary challenger) against you in 2018,'” Sanford said Mulvaney told him. He added that Mulvaney made it clear he did not want to deliver the message but did so at Trump’s insistence. Sounds like the president’s planning to fight a two-front war against the left and right in 2018. Just what you’d expect a man with the massive political capital that comes with a 41 percent job approval rating to do. Here’s Amash on Thursday comparing Trump’s strongarm tactics to how fifth-graders try to persuade critics. An interesting catch by the Hill, meanwhile: Sean Hannity addressed Trump’s tweet about “fighting” the Freedom Caucus on his show on Thursday night and … seemed to side with the Caucus, claiming that Trump’s anger in scapegoating them for the bill’s failure was “misplaced.” Populist conservative media is going to be in a jam if the Trump/HFC feud escalates. Whom do they side with, the big-government populist president or the small-government conservative House faction? Does it depend on how many of Trump’s initiatives the Freedom Caucus ends up blocking? It didn't take long for the swamp to drain @realDonaldTrump. No shame, Mr. President. Almost everyone succumbs to the D.C. Establishment. https://t.co/9bDo8yzH7I Just saw Never Trump Freedom Caucus Troll @JustinAmash {MICHIGAN} comments re: @POTUS. Didn't vote for #AHCA b/c he puts politics before MI. pic.twitter.com/xQqv1FhFiq Didn't vote for #Swampcare because it's just another version of #Obamacare—and just as dysfunctional (which is pretty hard to pull off). https://t.co/qSYB1AO6BP .@realDonaldTrump is bringing auto plants & jobs back to Michigan. @justinamash is a big liability.#TrumpTrain, defeat him in primary. Trump admin & Establishment have merged into #Trumpstablishment. Same old agenda: Attack conservatives, libertarians & independent thinkers. https://t.co/ALcV59iHXx The South Carolina Republican told The Post and Courier that Trump chose to convey this message through an intermediary: White House budget chief Mick Mulvaney, a former member of the S.C. congressional delegation, co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus and a friend.
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#1. To: Tooconservative, one term Trump (#0)
Amash has a lot of the old RP supporters. Some of them prefer Amash to Rand, or they have at various points. But Rand isn't up for re-election until 2022. Amash has to run in 2018. So the GOPe will go after Amash. I'm not sure that will work out as they think. Amash has already beat back a very determined effort to unseat him by a conventional Republican in 2014, with the full backing of the RNC and the Chamber of Commerce. It reminded me of several times when they tried to pull the same thing on Ron Paul. Once a congresscritter withstands a major assault from within their own party establishment, they become essentially an independent politician, even if they never leave the party. Instead of making them more compliant with the party bosses, it actually grants them even more independence from party bosses and conventional political pressure. Justin Amash is in a historically strong GOP district. I would expect he could get a lot of financial support from Dearborn and also from Peter Thiel as well as segments of the old Ron Paul political machine. And he would get help from Rand Paul and others in the Freedom Caucus. He would almost certainly get some financial help funneled to him by Dem tycoons, hoping to make his primary a battle so bitter that a Dem could take the winner of the GOP primary in the general election. A high-profile fight with Trump and his minions could launch Amash into the Senate.
Also the Koch Brothers have promised to shower the AHCA no voters with cash. Have to wait and see if that happens. Hmmm...I just hadn't heard that. Their main PACs is Americans For Prosperity. And their mouthpiece is Cato Institute. They also have Freedom Partners and Citizens for a Sound Economy and KochPAC which are lesser known PACs. And a bunch of family foundations. I'm not sure where Americans For Prosperity stands on the Freedom Caucus or on RynoCare. I know Heritage was very opposed to RynoCare and the Koch foundations are key donors to that, along with Federalist Society and a half-dozen other think tank operations. Post a link if you have something on Koch involvement in this RynoCare dustup. I just haven't heard of them being active lately.
All right! Where do I send my contribution? Trump had done more for Michigan in 60 days than this jagoff has done in 6 years. And THIS is how he repays him? Ingrate.
I don't think they have identified an opponent yet. If you send to the RNC, they'll likely just bank it. And it may be that the Republican National Committee and the National Republican Congressional Committee will both choose to keep their hands officially clean and rely on outsider organizations like Chamber of Commerce to be the main funders, along with a PAC or two. It's pretty hardcore for a president to try to primary a House member. You may recall that Trump endorsed Renee Elmers and was quite embarrassed by the entire fiasco when she got beat like a rug, despite his endorsement. I think you are greatly overestimating Trump's power within the party. So is Trump. His quirks aside, Amash is still a lot more conventional conservative Republican than Trump is. And everyone knows it.
Interesting. So Amash would be a major beneficiary. Amash does have other major segments of the party's financial elite. The Arab communities, Peter Thiel and other libertarian Silicon Valley types, the Ron Paul people. Trump should realize that trying to primary Amash is dangerous. If he fails to defeat Amash and install his own toadie in that seat, Amash becomes completely immune and independent of the party, all while staying within the party. I expect the WH will figure out that this tactic is going to be unpopular, will end up with the media giving Amash plenty of airtime as "that brave Arab Republican who is standing up to the Arab-hater Trump" and asking Amash lots of questions about ... SwampCare, as he so charmingly calls Trump's RynoCare. Is Trump really going to want to exchange shots with a smart-mouthed House member for the next year? It sounds so stupid, politically. I notice even Mulvaney tried to refuse to deliver Trump's threat but ended up playing the role of Trump's henchman (for no good reason). You'd think Trump would realize that he should have sent Bannon or someone else to make those threats.
Anyone who would think it was “just idle time-wasting” is an absolute idiot. Go after him, Donald….light into him with everything you have.
I see that Hannity blamed the House for a bad bill. Levin and Ingraham also both are backing the Freedom Caucus. Rush sort of explained Trump away by saying, "Well, we always knew Trump wasn't a conservative." Vannity attacked lib RINO Kinzinger who launched harsh attacks on the Freedom Caucus. And who also attacked Trump when he was running. No one knows if he actually ever voted for Trump. Unlike the FC who did support Trump.
Let the Koch brothers piss away their money. You’d think they would now be smart enough to know that large amounts of money don’t win elections. Trump proved that when he pulled off one of the biggest upsets in American political history and he was able to do it after spending nearly half of what Hillary spent. Hillary spent over $529 million while Donald spent onlty $270 million. Furthermore, those spending figures don't even factor in the money spent by the various Super PACs where Hillary likely outspent Trump by a hefty margin as well. The Koch brothers need to ask Soros if money buys elections. One common trope is that big-money interests are now buying U.S. elections. It’s a simple and intuitive concept that plays off trigger words like “billionaire” and “corporation.” Ah, but alas, that has been proven not true. In 2012, Romney outspent Obama — $1.2 billion versus $1.1 billion. Yet Obama could probably have spent several hundred million dollars less and still won. The Koch brothers also need to ask Adelson and Steyer if money wins elections. In 2012, Adelson was a big contributor and turned out to be the biggest loser, while in 2014, it was Democrat Tom Steyer’s turn. Nope, Koch brothers, money doesn’t win elections. Poo poo, balderdash….nothing here to even pay attention to, with Donald after your ass.
Hmmm...I just hadn't heard that. Forget it, Kock brothers …
Interesting. Yea....interesting. This is supposed to frighten, Donald? LAMO …
...if the national media is trying to defeat you by giving you $2 billion in free unpaid media. Now, as prez, they are pretty much forced to cover him. I do think that all that free media will dry up if he runs in 2020. They won't throw gasoline on that fire again. Trumpkins tend to believe that all politics is now changed for all time because of Trump. I don't see any reason to believe that is true. American politics tends to have a pretty familiar and steady form. Admittedly, Trump did break a lot of records. First complete non-pol lacking military or cabinet-level or gubernatorial experience. First true populist since Andrew Jackson. Possibly the most hated president since Andrew Jackson. Trump on his own terms is unique, maybe more so than 0bama was. But 0bama couldn't save seats for his own party and it wasn't for lack of trying. Maybe Trump is like 0bama in that they are only good at keeping their own supporters loyal, not at electing or defeating anyone in their own party. Trump did run behind almost every Republican on the national ballots in their states.
We'll see if Trump really wants to pick a fight with the Kochs.
We'll see if Trump really wants to pick a fight with the Kochs. You are always the “glass half empty guy” … While I am the perpetual “glass half full guy” … You are correct….in that, “we’ll see.”
The point still stand ... Spin it any way you want to try ... The battle lines were already drawn …
Yeah, when he was the unqualified buffoon who could never beat Hillary in a million years. Back then, a Trump endorsement and 10 cents would buy you a cup of of of coffee. But Trump IS President and already has done a lot for the State of Michigan. And Amash stabbed him in the back.
They were far from the only ones. The only strong tycoon supporters were Trump's old friends from NYC. And the Ricketts family who had their own GOTV effort that was quite effective. You may recall that a key moment was in the last few weeks when Sheldon Adelson threw in another, what, $125 million and just gave it to the Ricketts effort. And Adelson challenged the other old-money Republicans to cough up and match his giving (via the Ricketts organization working in all the Midwest battleground states). There were other GOP tycoons that played a big part but a lot of them refused to take part where they would have for most any other nominee. All the Mormon money was very shy toward Trump, for instance. AFAIK, the Koch's were less active in 2016 than they have been in a long time. You also see some significant decline in the maximum effort that Soros used to put into the Dem races so it isn't just the Kochs who are spending a bit less.
You do know you haven't been able to buy a cup of coffee for 10¢ for the last 50 years, right? I'm not sure how much Trump has done for Michigan just yet. Trump trying to keep or get plants doesn't seem to involve plants in Michigan as much as in other states where GM/Ford/Dodge have plants. Has Trump saved a factory in Michigan or got one of the Big Three to agree to build a factory in Michigan? I don't recall one offhand.
They were far from the only ones. And yet against all those who refused to support him and the terrific odds against him … Trump pulled off an amazing VICTORY. Does that tell you something about him and his opposition? Knowing you….it probably does not. But, maybe you will think about it….just, maybe.
Trump is punishing Michigan because there are too many Conservative libertarian Republicans there, hugging their guns and Bibles? The Liberty Daily tonight: You think the WH really wants eight months of that, escalating in tone? I don't.
Apparently. Maybe they were dancing in the streets after 9/11, like those Muslims Trump could see clear over in New Jersey celebrating on 9/11. Or whatever bullshit story that was that Trump tried to peddle.
you should know that by now … Nicely constructed graphic presentation, anyway … You’re welcome …
Amash is the swamp.
Amash is #NeverTrump.
That tweet is from before the election. Justin Amash was never fooled by the progressive NYC con man, Trump. He's been #Never Trump from day one, God bless him. Obviously you don't know that's an expression. If I said it would be like closing the stable door after the horse ran out, would you argue there weren't any horses involved in our discussion? Do you really take things literally, Mr. All-politics-is-local? "Has Trump saved a factory in Michigan or got one of the Big Three to agree to build a factory in Michigan? I don't recall one offhand." More importantly, has Amash done so in the 6 years he's been in office? Trump is trying to make America great again and people like Amash are getting in his way. That's the takeaway.
He's been #Never Trump from day one, God bless him. Of course you like Amash. He like your butt plug Gay Johnson were both against banning terrorist muslims from entering the country. It is not surprising that someone who hates America would support someone like Amash who wants unlimited muslim immigration.
Amash is like Obama. When push comes to shove he stands with his muslim family.
I'd think you were born in the nineteenth century. He's voted no a lot. About as often as Ron Paul used to. You know how it works. There's a vote by acclimation. Chair: "All for the motion?" It kind of pisses them off that they can't ever get unanimity. Which makes me laugh. Ron Paul had a reputation for this sort of thing, earning his title of Dr. No. After he retired, they attached that nickname to Tom Coburn of OK (also a doctor) because he was a no-guy too and liked to gum up the Senate by placing holds on nominees and filibusters.
Amash is Christian. Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch, known as the church of Antioch in the Bible. The oldest church of Christianity, predating the church of Rome. Amash's grandfather was a Pali Christian whose family came to America in the Fifties. Amash's father was born here and married an immigrant Syrian Christian girl.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#2. To: hondo68 (#1)
#3. To: Tooconservative, Koch Brothers cash boost (#2)
I would expect he could get a lot of financial support from Dearborn and also from Peter Thiel as well as segments of the old Ron Paul political machine.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#4. To: hondo68 (#3)
(Edited)
Also the Koch Brothers have promised to shower the AHCA no voters with cash.
#5. To: Tooconservative (#4)
Koch Brothers’ group vows millions to Republicans who vote against health care bill
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#6. To: Tooconservative (#0)
"It’s on: White House social media director calls for primarying Freedom Caucus member Justin Amash"
#7. To: misterwhite, hondo68 (#6)
(Edited)
All right! Where do I send my contribution?
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-N.C.), the recipient of Donald Trump's first congressional endorsement this election season, also became the first incumbent to fall in a 2016 primary when she lost Tuesday’s North Carolina Republican congressional race to George Holding, a congressman who currently represents North Carolina’s 13th District, by 30 points.
#8. To: hondo68, misterwhite (#5)
Koch Brothers’ group vows millions to Republicans who vote against health care bill
#9. To: Tooconservative (#0)
Turns out when Trump tweeted early Thursday morning that we “must fight” the Freedom Caucus in 2018, that wasn’t just idle time-wasting while he was sitting on the can.
#10. To: hondo68 (#5)
#11. To: misterwhite, Tooconservative (#8)
(Edited)
Koch Brothers’ group vows millions to Republicans who vote against health care bill
Poo poo, balderdash….especially in the situation of Trump going after Amash. Koch Brothers’ group vows millions to Republicans who vote against health care bill
#12. To: Tooconservative (#4)
Also the Koch Brothers have promised to shower the AHCA no voters with cash.
It Took An Independently Wealthy Billionaire To Prove Money Doesn’t Win Elections .
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#13. To: Tooconservative (#8)
Koch Brothers’ group vows millions to Republicans who vote against health care bill
Kicking Money Out of Politics: Trump Boots Koch Brother from Golf Course.
#14. To: Gatlin (#12)
It Took An Independently Wealthy Billionaire To Prove Money Doesn’t Win Elections . ...
#15. To: Gatlin (#13)
Kicking Money Out of Politics: Trump Boots Koch Brother from Golf Course.
#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)
Kicking Money Out of Politics: Trump Boots Koch Brother from Golf Course.
#17. To: Tooconservative (#14)
(Edited)
It Took An Independently Wealthy Billionaire To Prove Money Doesn’t Win Elections . ...
The Kochs refused to support Trump's candidacy last fall,
Am I wrong …
#18. To: Tooconservative (#7)
"You may recall that Trump endorsed Renee Elmers"
#19. To: Gatlin (#17)
(Edited)
The Kochs refused to support Trump's candidacy last fall,
#20. To: misterwhite (#18)
Back then, a Trump endorsement and 10 cents would buy you a cup of of of coffee.
But Trump IS President and already has done a lot for the State of Michigan. And Amash stabbed him in the back.
#21. To: Tooconservative (#19)
The Kochs refused to support Trump's candidacy last fall …
#22. To: Tooconservative (#20)
(Edited)
Has Trump saved a factory in Michigan or got one of the Big Three to agree to build a factory in Michigan? I don't recall one offhand.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#23. To: Gatlin (#17)
#24. To: hondo68 (#22)
Trump is punishing Michigan because there are too many Conservative libertarian Republicans there, hugging their guns and Bibles?
#25. To: Tooconservative (#23)
You think the WH really wants eight months of that, escalating in tone? I don't.
The properly phrased question is … You think that Trump will really do what he wants to do? I say: Yes.
Headlines and a picture of Rove and Amash don ‘t scare or influence Trump.
#26. To: Tooconservative (#0)
#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)
#28. To: borntoweardiamonds, Justin Amash 2020 (#27)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#29. To: Tooconservative (#20)
"You do know you haven't been able to buy a cup of coffee for 10¢ for the last 50 years, right?"
#30. To: hondo68 (#28)
That tweet is from before the election. Justin Amash was never fooled by the progressive NYC con man, Trump.
#31. To: borntoweardiamonds (#27)
Amash is #NeverTrump.
#32. To: misterwhite (#29)
If I said it would be like closing the stable door after the horse ran out, would you argue there weren't any horses involved in our discussion?
More importantly, has Amash done so in the 6 years he's been in office?
House: "Aye."
Chair: "All opposed?"
Amash (from the back bench): "NAY!"
House: {facepalm}
#33. To: A K A Stone (#31)
(Edited)
Amash is like Obama. When push comes to shove he stands with his muslim family.
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