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Title: Welcome To Amerika: Family Fined, Threatened With Jail for Building a Sand Castle
Source: Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/we ... il-for-building-a-sand-castle/
Published: Apr 1, 2017
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2017-04-01 14:32:49 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 19983
Comments: 146

Panama City Beach, FL — In the ostensible land of the Free, cops claim the legal authority to extort money from you, or even kidnap you for a slew of activities which have no victim. Window Tint, smoking a plant in you own home, not wearing your seatbelt, walking across the street, sagging your pants, and even juggling — can and will get you extorted, kidnapped, caged, or even killed. Now, as a recent case in Florida illustrates, we can add building a sand castle to that long list of victimless “crimes.”

Bryant Rylee and his family were at the beach last week building an awesome sand castle when they were confronted by police. The officer, who was ‘protecting society’ by patrolling the beach for illegal sand castles, told the Rylees that their sand castle was in violation of the law.

At first, Rylee thought the officer was joking. After all, he and his son were harming no one while building their most epic castle. In a Facebook post, Rylee explains that it is ‘illegal’ to build a sand castle with a hole deeper than two feet. However, he explained that their hole was only one foot deep, so there was no way it was in violation.

It wasn’t the hole from which the cop was protecting society, though — it was Rylee’s son’s equipment that was criminal. According to their obscure ordinance, only plastic tools are allowed on the beach, and they had some metal ones.

It is important to note that the officer explained to Rylee that she would let him off with a warning if he simply filled in the hole. But Rylee wasn’t buying it. He wanted to know what ordinance he was violating.

It was Rylee’s questioning of authority which led to police escalating the call. When her authority was put into question, the officer brought in backup.

Before the officer could tell Rylee which ordinance he was violating, the family was surrounded by police. In fact, four patrol units would show up and sit there for 20 minutes before any of them could produce the law which said metal beach toys were illegal.

According to FEE:

While Rylee, a devout Christian, says he supports law enforcement and prays “daily for their protection,” he also said on his social media account that, “I do believe that ‘we the people’ have a right to ask what ordinance number or to see the ordinance.”

 

Rylee is absolutely correct. In the American legal system, there is a pillar of jurisprudence known as Mens rae, which is latin for “guilty mind.” The principle itself comes from the latin phrase actus reus non facit reum nisi mens sit rea, which translates to, “the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty.”

 

This is a standard test of criminal liability that asks the state to consider whether or not a person has broken a law knowingly before guilt can even be assessed.

After it was all over, as Rylee explains, the construction of a sand castle cost him $25 and could’ve cost him $500 and up to 60 days in jail.

When building a sand castle becomes a criminal act, it is high time we question where this ostensible Land of the Free is headed.

Bryant Rylee added 5 new photos.

This is the sand castle that cost me a $25 fine & could have cost me up to $500 & no more than 60 days in jail. Incase you didn't know, at Panama City Beach you can't dig deeper than 2ft & not exceeding 2ft long on the beach & you can't use any metal tools. I've been going to PCB for spring break for over 13 yrs, we've always built things digging with metal tools. So be sure you study your ordinances before you make a trip. My big mistake was asking the ordinance number & asking to see the ordinance. Apparently the beach patrol lady didn't like that so she called for back up...

That's when three other units arrived on the scene. One officer said, if I'd just cover the castle, I wouldn't get a ticket but if I must inquire or see the ordinance, I will receive a ticket. It took them 20 minutes to find the ordinance & it's not exactly the way they quoted. It said "2ft deep" but it didn't say "not more than 2ft long" & since I had dug only about 1ft deep, I was only ticketed for my metal tools. I do support law enforcement & pray daily for their protection. And I do believe that "we the people" have a right to ask what ordinance number or to see the ordinance. So... How many cops does it take to shut down a sand castle bandit & his son? The answer is 4! Be careful out there!

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#2. To: Deckard (#0)

"It is important to note that the officer explained to Rylee that she would let him off with a warning if he simply filled in the hole. But Rylee wasn’t buying it".

Well, here we go again. As far as I'm concerned, anything that happened after he refused a reasonable offer is on him. Asshole.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-01   14:44:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#2) (Edited)

As far as I'm concerned, anything that happened after he refused a reasonable offer is on him.

Yeah sure - he should have just bent over and taken it. That's what you'd do, right paulsen?

You'd never question any cop or ask to see the ordinance that you are supposedly violating.

Asshole.

For politely asking what law he had broken and asking to be shown a copy of the ordinance?

You really do have that "authority fetish" thing down pat.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-01   14:51:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#4)

"You'd never question any cop or ask to see the ordinance that you are supposedly violating."

You mean set up a mini-courtroom on the beach to present evidence and call witnesses? You sure you want the police to do that, not a judge?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-01   15:20:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#9)

This may come as a shock to you, but it's actually in the best interests of the police to maintain a good relationship with the general public, and taking a kind rather than militant approach to people having fun on a public beach who don't know that they *might* be violating an ordinance can go a long way to promoting those good relations.

Pinguinite  posted on  2017-04-01   16:16:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#11)

"This may come as a shock to you, but it's actually in the best interests of the police to maintain a good relationship with the general public, and taking a kind rather than militant approach to people having fun on a public beach who don't know that they *might* be violating an ordinance can go a long way to promoting those good relations."

From the article: "It is important to note that the officer explained to Rylee that she would let him off with a warning if he simply filled in the hole." But the asshole refused.

So, who was acting nice and who was acting like a jerk?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-01   18:21:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: misterwhite (#14)

"It is important to note that the officer explained to Rylee that she would let him off with a warning if he simply filled in the hole."

I'd fill in the hole. After I went to the store and got some concrete and stuck her head in it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02   1:07:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#22) (Edited)

"I'd fill in the hole. After I went to the store and got some concrete and stuck her head in it."

Yeah! That'll teach her to enforce the law! Damn rogue cop.

Now, after you did that, I assume you would then organize an effort to repeal all these stupid beach ordinances and allow metal rakes and shovels, holes 10 feet deep, glass bottles, alcohol and animals on the beach.

No, you probablly wouldn't. Changing the law is just too much work. Besides, I'm guessing the vast majority of the people asked for these laws to begin with. You're in the minority. So sad.

Perhaps you can find a beach more suitable to your anarchistic philosophy. Here ya go. Use your rake to clear a spot:

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   10:46:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#29)

If the law is immoral I ignore it.

If the law is immoral you follow it to a T.

If you lived in Germany in the 30's you would say it was the law the Jew were gassed. They should have lobbied and changed the law.

If you were alive during the revolutionary war. You would have said revolution is illegal and someone might get hurt.

You're such a wuss.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02   11:04:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#30)

"If the law is immoral I ignore it."

There is nothing immoral about prohibiting deep holes, metal shovels, glass, alcohol or animals on a public beach. Other people have rights, too. Or do you you think the U.S. Constitution was written only for you?

You are one selfish individual, thinking that the world revolves around you and you can do anything you want. Society's rules are for other people, right?

I would suggest that you pack up your belongings and move above the tree lne where you're on your own and can do anything you want. You obviously don't fit in any organized society.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   11:17:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#32)

Like I said you would be a good loyal little non thinking nazi. Very loyal.

There is nothing immoral about building a sandcastle with a metal shovel.

Assholes who enforce stupid laws are the problem.

I'll do whatever I want and no one has ever stopped me and no one ever will.

Because my moral code God gave me is far superior to what is required by law.

You champion so called law over common sense and good morals.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02   11:36:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

"There is nothing immoral about building a sandcastle with a metal shovel."

Isn't violating a valid, constitutional law immoral? Isn't it immoral to teach your children to violate a valid, constitutional law? Isn't it immoral to violate the rights of others?

You don't even live there and you're going to tell the citizens of Panama City Beach what's moral and immoral and how they should live their life? Who are you to do that?

"Assholes who enforce stupid laws are the problem."

Why? Because it's easier to strike back at law enforcement than it is to change the stupid law? Change the law, idiot!

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   11:52:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: misterwhite (#35)

Isn't it immoral to teach your children to violate a valid, constitutional law?

You teach your kids to obey the law.

You also teach them common sense and morals.

If the law says to do something immoral you are free to ignore it. There may be a cost but doing what is right. When you do what is right and disobey an immoral law you are doing the right thing.

You're probably having a typical liberal reaction in your mind. You are thinking but who says what is moral or immoral. That is a distraction. There is a true right and a true wrong and it is in our conscience. People who say things are moral that are not are just liars.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02   12:07:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: A K A Stone (#37)

"If the law says to do something immoral you are free to ignore it."

Aren't you also free to ignore moral laws?

How about this? If the law says to do something you consider immoral you are free to change it. Assuming, of course, you can find enough people with your sense of morality.

Isn't that the way we so things around here?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-04-02   12:14:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#43. To: misterwhite (#41)

Aren't you also free to ignore moral laws?

Of course you are. But you would be acting immorally. So it is your duty to obey moral laws. Not that any of us always do what is our "moral duty" I'm talking theoretically.

If you read what I said there are consequences for breaking immoral laws. There obviously are also consequences for breaking immoral laws.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02 12:21:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: misterwhite (#41)

How about this? If the law says to do something you consider immoral you are free to change it.

You use the word consider. That makes me think you don't believe in absolute morals.

I do. I know them. I don't always follow them but I know them.

I know what your problem is with my thinking. There are to many stupid immoral people in the world who wouldn't lie and say they were following what is right. Well i'm not talking about them. I'm talking about me. I know right and wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02 12:24:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: misterwhite (#41)

Assuming, of course, you can find enough people with your sense of morality.

There you go again "sense".

There is moral and immoral. Not a sense of moral and a sense of immoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02 12:25:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: misterwhite, tooconservative (#41)

Isn't that the way we so things around here?

No. That is not the way it works. It is more random and inconsistent. I might be pissed one day because someone said something that made me. Or I might think someone is an asshole. They don't get treated the same as someone that I like. That's just the way it is. Truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-04-02 12:27:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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