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Title: Congressman Justin Amash: Riding a fence made of razor wire
Source: The Arab Daily News
URL Source: http://thearabdailynews.com/2014/08 ... -riding-fence-made-razor-wire/
Published: Mar 31, 2017
Author: Ray Hanania
Post Date: 2017-03-31 03:04:03 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1789
Comments: 16

Like many Palestinian Americans, I was ecstatic when Justin Amash was elected Congressman from the Michigan in November 2010. There have been several American Arab members of the U.S. Congress, but Amash was the first who was solidly identified as being Palestinian.

He joined a besieged group of congressional members, American Arabs who have to battle against the powerful pro-Israel lobby and also win votes against often vicious opponents.

Politics is no June afternoon picking strawberries.

But the key difference is that Amash, 30, a former member of the Michigan State Legislature from the 72nd District and the second youngest ember of the U.S House behind 29 year old Aaron Schock of Illinois, is a Republican Conservative, two words that often do not jive with the rhetoric of the Israel Palestine conflict in terms of supporting justice for Palestine or criticism of Israel.

The first Palestinian to serve in Congress was John Edward Sununu, the son of former New Hampshire Governor John H. Sununu, both Republicans often identified as being “Lebanese” but who were actually from a Palestinian family that left Acre, Palestine to settle in Lebanon. Sununu served three terms in Congress from 1996-2002 and then later one term in the U.S. Senate from 2002-2008, losing to the Lebanese American challenger who fought him the first time, Jeanne Shaheen.

Amash must have learned a lot from Sununu who rarely identified himself publicly as being Palestinian. It’s not an easy thing to do in American society let alone in politics where your ethnicity means a lot. Amash doesn’t wear his Palestinian heritage on his shoulder as a badge, though he openly describes himself of being the son of a Palestinian father and Syrian mother. The media coverage doesn’t play up his Palestinian background either, maybe because they take his lead.

And during this latest conflict, Amash has been silent. There is an old saying from the Chinese Military General Sun Tsu who cautioned that if you can’t win a battle, don’t fight it. But the truth is Sun Tzu didn’t say it exactly that way, as it is often misquoted. The wise General said, “He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious.” And that’s entirely different from the popular misquoted lamentation.

Maybe that’s Amash’s policy, when it comes to the issue of Israel and Palestine.

Since Israel began its aggression against the Gaza Strip following the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers, Congressman Amash has been pretty much silent on the conflict on his Facebook Page, as have been many major American Arab politicians.

That’s different from his public views when he wrote on his Facebook Page on May 24, 2012: “I voted “yes” on the motion to suspend the rules and pass H R 4133, United States-Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012. The bill reaffirms the U.S.-Israel security relationship, supports the continued development of a joint missile defense system and the production of the Iron Dome defense system, pledges to assist Israel to “forge a peaceful, negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that results in two states living side by side in peace and security,” and temporarily extends an existing line of credit to Israel’s government, which may not be used for activities outside of the 1967 borders. (This is constitutional in connection with Congress’s power to raise and support Armies.) “My father is Palestinian and my mother is Syrian. Israel is far from perfect. Some of its policies and actions violate deeply held American principles of liberty and justice. But Israel is our closest friend in a very troubled region. Our national defense benefits from Israel’s ability to defend itself and to serve as a check against neighboring authoritarian regimes and extremists. Assisting with training and the development of Israel’s military capacity allows the U.S. to take a less interventionist role in the region. I am hopeful that American troops soon can leave the region and Israel and its neighbors can live in peace without U.S. aid or involvement. It passed 411-2-9.”

Since then, though, after stirring some backlash from pro-Arab and pro-Israel activists (it is a world where oftentimes you can’t make either side happy), Amash has focused mainly on being a Republican, and the chairman of the 36-member Liberty Caucus in the Congress, also known as the “Tea Party.” Yes, the Tea Party is not exactly a pro-Arab or pro-Palestinian political organization at all. Far from it based on the insane rantings of many of its advocates and media disciples like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh who libel Palestinian rights and justice all the time. Amash had the backing of rightwing Texas fanatic (is that redundant?) U.S. Senator Ted Cruz who described and endorsed Amash as “a strong conservative fighter.”

And why the silence on Palestine and Israel? Not just because it contradicts the Tea Party train that supports Israel blindly, but also because he is running for re-election in the Republican Primary this Tuesday, August 5, in Michigan. His district is solid Republican so if he can get past that primary, he has no problems and is certain to win the General Election oN November 4. And so far, Congressman Amash has no problems.

Although he has a wild and crazy Republican challenger doing everything he can to throw mud on Amash, a goof named Brian Ellis. Ellis has made claims that Amash has opposed Israel’s right to exist, but offers no facts to back it up, just twisted rhetoric and lies. Ellis is challenging Amash in the Republican Primary, but he really doesn’t have much ammunition of support, for that matter. Obviously, Amash doesn’t want to do anything that would give Ellis and his coterie of extremists any ammunition to attack him, so he is avoiding any deep thoughts about Israel and Palestine. Justin Amash

I have reached out to Congressman Amash to interview him several times, and he has declined. Although I have been a political reporter and columnist for more than two decades in the 1980s and 1990s covering Chicago City Hall and Illinois and Midwest politics, I am also one of the best known Palestinian American writers and media consultants in the country.

The issue of Palestine would come up, in a fair way, of course. And I would be fair in questioning him. But even being fair is not enough in the Israel- Palestine conflict with AIPAC and the israeli lobby attacking anyone for saying anything that even hints at the slightest criticism of Israel. If you bump Israel by accident, the pro-Israel lobby with nuke you with charges of being “anti- Semitic,” the overused, hackneyed phrase that has been gutted by excessive use in the wrong circumstances. But in elections, the vitriolic vicious name calling still has capital.

It’s a quagmire for Palestinian Americans like myself. We WANT a Palestinian in the U.S. Congress. But we do want one who stands up for justice and fairness. There is no doubt that in this conflict in the Gaza Strip, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his government have gone overboard, crossing the line of humanity by targeting civilians. More than 1,500 civilians have been killed in the Gaza Strip since Israel launched its assault in July following the discovery of the bodies of the three kidnapped Israeli teenagers. But it wasn’t just Israeli teenagers who were kidnapped. A Palestinian teenager was kidnapped and murdered, too, the next day. And since then more than 175 Palestinian infants, babies, children and teenagers have been among those killed by Israel’s onslaught against the Gaza Strip. The war has elicited an outcry of revulsion and has included protests against the brutality from the administration of President Barack Obama and others who have said that killing civilians is wrong. Can you imagine that in this day and age, that NEEDS to be said? It should go without saying. But we are dealing with Israel.

We have little choice but to give Justin Amash a pass, knowing he can’t really speak out about what Israel is doing massacring Palestinian civilians int he Gaza Strip from a Palestinian member of Congress, even though many Congressman are openly denouncing Hamas and the Palestinians and defending Israel’s war crimes blindly and with unfettered enthusiasm.

I like Justin Amash. But I think the issue of Israel’s war against civilians in the Gaza Strip demands something more than a milk-toast abandon of the topic entirely. Piers Morgan expressed shock at the massacre of civilians, and embraced the notion of peace for both Palestinians and Israelis. And that’s the most disappointing thing about Amash. He can’t even say he supports peace, security and safety for the Palestinians.

There are a lot of Palestinians who are saying nothing, and many who are saying too much in incoherent screams and emotion. But you might expect the one Palestinian in the U.S. Congress to say something, rather than follow int he footsteps of his predecessor, Sununu, who barely said acknowledged his Palestinian heritage and said little.

For all those who aspire to change the American political system, to make it fair, Justin Amash is not exactly a poster child for a campaign of change. He’s more of less little more than a voice of political rhetoric who has found his place in Republican conservatism that has abandoned Palestinian humanity. I get it Justin. I won’t put you on the spot and ask what your thoughts are on the massacre of civilians in Palestine. I’ll stick to you support of the Pro-Life Movement, which you help define as not including Palestinians.

I guess this is the price of having a Palestinian serving in a U.S. Congress so tightly controlled and influenced by the powerful pro-Israel lobby AIPAC, and the threat of being slandered.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

I recall that effort to unseat Amash. His opponent was completely unhinged.

It brings to mind all the times both Dems and GOP tried to defeat Ron Paul and take his seat in the House. It didn't work then either. Amash seems to have that same close bond with his district. About the only way to get rid of such a congresscritter would be to redistrict him. If you can't change the voters' minds, change the voters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-31   19:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1) (Edited)

I recall that effort to unseat Amash. His opponent was completely unhinged.
It brings to mind all the times both Dems and GOP tried to defeat Ron Paul and take his seat in the House. It didn't work then either. Amash seems to have that same close bond with his district. About the only way to get rid of such a congresscritter would be to redistrict him. If you can't change the voters' minds, change the voters.

Okay? Let me try to understand exactly what you are saying….this “old country boy” has to digest things slowly. Something I learned from reading all about Will Rogers.

Let’s see now, where have I once before….heard something like you are saying.

Oh yea....here we go:

  • Let's Be Honest: Hillary Is a Shoo-In [RealClearPolitics]
  • Hillary Clinton looks guaranteed to become the 45th US President [afr.com]
  • Hillary Clinton is almost certain to be president [Jill Abramson- theguardian.com]
  • Hillary Clinton Is Likely To Be The Next President [thehuffingtonpost]
  • Hillary Clinton is going to be the next president [bluenationreview]
  • Hillary Clinton should be our next president [Newsday]
OMG….the list goes on, and on, and on …

So, now….what did you say again”

Oh, yea:

I recall that effort to unseat Amash. His opponent was completely unhinged.
It brings to mind all the times both Dems and GOP tried to defeat Ron Paul and take his seat in the House. It didn't work then either. Amash seems to have that same close bond with his district. About the only way to get rid of such a congresscritter would be to redistrict him. If you can't change the voters' minds, change the voters.

So you are saying that Amash is a “shoo in” for his reelection.

Right, TC….I GOT IT.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-31   19:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin (#2)

Voters preferred a Kenyan Community Organizer, to Gatlin's beloved senator.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-03-31   20:05:08 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#2)

So you are saying that Amash is a “shoo in” for his reelection.

I'm saying that efforts to oust Amash remind me of similar efforts to oust Ron Paul by both GOP and Dem opponents, sometimes in the same election cycle. Finally, they just gave up and he finally retired.

Another guy they'd really like to defeat is Walter Jones Jr., another old buddy of Ron Paul. But he keeps hanging in there, doing his own thing, much as Amash and Massey do.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-31   20:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#4) (Edited)

So you are saying that Amash is a “shoo in” for his reelection.

I'm saying that efforts to oust Amash remind me of similar efforts to oust Ron Paul by both GOP and Dem opponents, sometimes in the same election cycle. Finally, they just gave up and he finally retired.

Another guy they'd really like to defeat is Walter Jones Jr., another old buddy of Ron Paul. But he keeps hanging in there, doing his own thing, much as Amash and Massey do.

You really shouldn’t rely so heavily on past performances to expect or predict a continuation of the same.

But then, you did say that you could pee in your pants, if you want to....didn’t you?

It may bode well for you as an omen of a particular future outcome, to always remember …

There ain’t a horse that can't be rode, or a politician that can't be “throwed” [out of office].

Just some old Arizona cowboy wisdom, I pass on to you.

Probably something Will Rogers could have said….had he thought of it..

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-31   21:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#3)

Voters preferred a Kenyan Community Organizer ...

Okey-Dokey ….

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-31   21:59:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin, Senator ISIS McCain (#6) (Edited)

So how did that work out for you?

Your senator became more bitter and upped his jihad against the USA, created ISIS, armed and funded them, and then presented his pink pussyhat "democratic rebels" with ISIS McCain medals when they killed the infidels.

Then your Senator ISIS McCain endorsed Mitt Romney, to guarantee Obama a second term.

John McCain Endorses Romney

And then you rewarded him for his terrorism and treason, by voting for him as your senator, again.

THE END


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2017-04-01   0:15:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: hondo68 (#7)

I asked you a simple question.

It was, how did it work out for you that the voters preferred a Kenyan Community Organizer?

And you post some unrelated pictures and links.

I guess you are too stupid to answer my simple question and I am tired of seeing your irrelevent graphics and links.

Good bye ..

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   0:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#5)

Probably something Will Rogers could have said….had he thought of it..

Who?

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   12:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#8)

I am tired of seeing your irrelevent graphics and links.

Alternate text if image doesn't load

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-04-01   12:44:25 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Probably something Will Rogers could have said….had he thought of it..

Who?

You're funny.

Enjoy ...

Will Rogers.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   13:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Gatlin (#11)

Will Rogers

Apparently, he died in 1935.

Unless you're even older than you've hinted, you were still sucking your mama's teat back then.

So even you don't remember Will Rogers.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   13:16:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#12)

So even you don't remember Will Rogers.
Of course I do….fond memories last forever.

You have to know that when Will Rogers died, the memory of Will Rogers did not die with him.

Will Rogers' legacy continues [82] years after his death.
I grew up listening to Will Rogers rebroadcasts over the radio in the late 30s and early 40s. Our family would sit around the battery powered radio with a wire antenna that strung the entire length across the top of the roof….in the evenings to listen to and enjoy the retransmissions of his radio programs. I also watched Will Rogers movies….oh my goodness, it cost a whole dime to get in. Big money for me in those days …

Here are some of his political quotes. I enjoy reading them again, from time to time. Perhaps you will enjoy reading them now …

Will Rogers on Politics

Authentic Will Rogers quotes on Politics

DT and WA refer to newspaper columns:
DT = Daily Telegram; WA = Weekly Article

  • "I'm not a member of any organized political party.... I'm a Democrat."
  • "Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they'd be Republicans."
  • "There is only one redeeming thing about this whole election. It will be over at sundown, and let everybody pray that it's not a tie, for we couldn't go through with this thing again.

    And, when the votes are counted, let everybody, including the candidates, get into a good humor as quick as they got into a bad one.

    Both gangs have been bad sports, so see if at least one can't redeem themselves by offering no alibis, but cooperate with the winner, for no matter which one it is the poor fellow is going to need it.

    So cheer up. Let's all be friends again. One of the evils of democracy is you have to put up with the man you elect whether you want him or not. That's why we call it democracy." DT #1953, Nov. 7, 1932
  • "If you ever injected truth into politics you have no politics" WA # 31, July 15, 1923
  • "Politics has got so expensive that it takes lots of money to even get beat with nowadays." DT #1538, June 28, 1931
  • "Politics pretty quiet over the week-end. Democrats are attacking and the Republicans are defending. All the Democrats have to do is promise "what they would do if they got in." But the Republicans have to promise "what they would do" and then explain why they haven't already "done it."

    I do honestly believe the Republicans have reformed and want to do better. But whether they have done it in time to win the election is another thing. The old voter is getting so he wants to be saved before October every election year.
    " DT #1917, Sept. 26, 1932
  • "This country has gotten where it is in spite of politics, not by the aid of it. That we have carried as much political bunk as we have and still survived shows we are a super nation." DT #1948, Nov. 1, 1932

[Randall Reeder gives a lot of  talks as "Will Rogers" that are entertaining and help people feel good about who they are and what they do. Email or call him to ask about speaking to your group, association or convention:   willrogers@aol.com    614-477- 0439  (cell)]

  • "I would love to see Mr. (Henry) Ford in there, really. I don't know who started the idea that a President must be a Politician instead of a Business man. A Politician can't run any other kind of business. So there is no reason why he can run the U.S. That's the biggest single business in the World." WA #5, January 14, 1923
  • "I make a living off (politicians), so I can't knock 'em. Every time we elect some fellow we think he's terrible and then when we get another one in he's worse. So, I am always in favor of keeping the one we've got and let the other go." NBC Radio, May 16, 1932 (Pomona, CA)
  • "When you straddle a thing it takes a long time to explain it." Convention Articles, June 29, 1924
  • "America has the best politicians money can buy." (Undated notes)
  • "Coolidge made less speeches and got more votes than any man that ever run. (William Jennings) Bryan was listened to and cheered by more people than any single human in politics, and he lost. So there is a doubt just whether talking does you good or harm." DT #673, Sept. 21, 1928
  • "Congress is so strange; a man gets up to speak and says nothing, nobody listens, and then everybody disagrees."
  • "Congress meets tomorrow morning. Let us all pray: Oh Lord, give us strength to bear that which is about to be inflicted upon us. Be merciful with them, oh Lord, for they know not what they're doing. Amen."
  • "We all joke about Congress but we can't improve on them. Have you noticed that no matter who we elect, he is just as bad as the one he replaces?"
  • "I read where they are going to limit debate in the Senate. It used to be that a man could talk all day, but now, as soon as he tells all he knows, he has to sit down. Most of these birds will just be getting up and nodding now. Why, some of them won't be able to answer roll call."
  • "We cuss Congress, and we joke about 'em, but they are all good fellows at heart, and if they wasn't in Congress, why, they would be doing something else against us that might be even worse."
  • "Now these fellows in Washington wouldn't be so serious and particular if they only had to vote on what they thought was good for the majority of the people in the U.S. That would be a cinch. But what makes it hard for them is every time a bill comes up they have things to decide that have nothing to do with the merit of the bill. The principal thing is of course: What will this do for me personally back home?"
  • "The "Ways & Means Committee" is a committee that's supposed to find the Ways to divide up the Means."
  • "Never blame a legislative body for not doing something. When they do nothing, they don't hurt anybody. When they do something is when they become dangerous."
  • "The Senate just sits and waits till they find out what the president wants, so they know how to vote against him."
  • "In Washington, one man could do what ten of them do. There could be only a quarter or a third as many congressmen or senators, and we would pick better ones then. But it's the system that we have always used, and there is no use getting all overcome with perspiration over it. Things kinder run themselves, anyhow."
  • "Senators are a never-ending source of amusement, amazement, and discouragement."
  • "Funny thing about being a U.S. senator, the only thing the law says you have to be is 30 years old. Not another single requirement. They just figure that a man that old got nobody to blame but himself if he gets caught in there."
  • "Our president delivered his State of the Union message to Congress. That is one of the things his contract calls for -- to tell congress the condition of the country. This message, as I say, is to Congress. The rest of the people know the condition of the country, for they live in it, but Congress has no idea what is going on in America, so the president has to tell 'em."
  • "A president just can't make much showing against congress. They lay awake nights, thinking up things to be against the president on."
  • "You know Lincoln's famous remark about "God must have loved the common people, because he made so many of them?" Well, you are not going to get people's votes nowadays by calling 'em common. Lincoln might have said it, but I bet it was not until after he was elected."
  • "There wasn't any Republicans in Washington's day. No Republicans, no Boll Weevil, no income tax, no cover charge, no disarmament conference, no luncheon clubs, no stop lights, no static, no head winds. My Lord, living in those days, who wouldn't be great?"
  • "The Democrats and the Republicans are equally corrupt where money is concerned. It's only in the amount where the Republicans excel."
  • "It's getting so if a man wants to stand well socially, he can't afford to be seen with either the Democrats or the Republicans."
  • "Their greatest trait to recommend the Democrats is optimism and humor. You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and you've got to be a humorist to stay one."
  • "There is something about a Republican that you can only stand him just so long; and on the other hand, there is something about a Democrat that you can't stand him quite that long."
  • "Democrats never agree on anything, that's why they're Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they would be Republicans."
  • "A politician is not as narrow-minded as he forces himself to be."
  • "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously, and the politicians as a joke, when it used to be vice versa."
  • "Say, did you read what this writer just dug up in George Washington's diary? I was so ashamed I sat up all night reading it."
  • "Many a politician wishes there was a law to burn old records."
  • "A politician is just like a pickpocket; it's almost impossible to get one to reform."
  • "Politics is the best show in America. I love animals and I love politicians, and I like to watch both of 'em at play, either back home in their native state, or after they've been captured and sent to a zoo, or to Washington."
  •  "The difference between a Republican and a Democrat is the Democrat is a cannibal. They have to live off each other, while the Republicans, why, they live off the Democrats."
  • "There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the entire government working for you."
  • "A Republican moves slowly. They are what we call conservatives. A conservative is a man who has plenty of money and doesn't see any reason why he shouldn't always have plenty of money. A Democrat is a fellow who never had any, but doesn't see any reason why he shouldn't have some."
  • “Funny to watch these Senators switching back and forth on Prohibition. Politics is a great character builder. You have to take a referendum to see what your convictions are for that day.” May 29, 1930

The 2008 Presidential Election

  • "(Louisiana Senator) Huey Long, who is the king of the planners, had tough going this last week, with his 'Share the Wealth' plan. Interior Secretary (Harold) Ickes and Relief Commissioner (Harry) Hopkins, who handles more money than any man in the world, they said, "No, Huey, you're not goin' to share any of our wealth." Well, that's the wealth Huey was kinda figurin' on sharin'. You know, the national problem in this country today is not who shall be relieved and whose money shall relieve him, but who shall be the one that plays Santa Claus and actually hands out the presents. That's the main problem today, it's who hands out the presents." Radio, April 21, 1935
  • "We know that everybody should 'share the wealth.' Now, Huey's [Sen. Huey Long] plan to "share the wealth," it's a marvelous idea. Huey's a smart guy, don't overlook that. And our own downright conscience tells us that there's no reason why anybody should have more than you. There ain't nothing wrong with the plan, only this one little defect: Nobody ain't going to share it with you, that's all. I know a lot of tremendously rich people that should share their wealth with me, but they just don't see it that way. And I know folks that ain't got as much as I have that think I ought to share it with them. Well, I just can't hardly see it their way either. That is, even if I can see it that way, I'm not doing it." Radio, April 21, 1935
  • (On his radio show Will described a lunch he had in the Capitol with 5 Senators, both Republican and Democrat, and concluded with this...) "We had a great lunch. (Senator) Capper paid for it. The Republican pays, as usual. And everything that the Democrats are doin' now, the Republicans pay for it. Everybody asks me, "Will, how long is this going to go on, spending all this money and everything going like this?" I says, "Well, it will go on just as long as the Republicans has got any money. That's all I know about it." Radio, March 31, 1935
  • "It looks to me like any man that wants to be President in times like these lacks something." DT #1803, May 4, 1932
  • "If this depression stays with us, the loser Tuesday is going to be the winner." DT #1951, Nov. 4, 1932
  • "If you have a radio, the next three months is a good time to have it (quit working). All you will hear from now until the 4th of November will be: 'We must get our government out of the hands of predatory wealth.' 'The good people of this great country are burdened to death with taxes. Now what I intend to do is ...' What he intends to do is try and get elected. That's all any of them intend to do. Another one that will hum over the old static every night will be: 'This country has reached a crisis in its national existence.'" WA #86, August 3, 1924
  • "Here's another way of putting it. Roosevelt wants recovery to start at the bottom. In other words, by a system of high taxes, he wants business to help the little fellow to get started and get some work, and then pay business back by buying things when he's at work. Business says, 'Let everybody alone. Let business alone, and quit monkeying with us, and we'll get everything going for you, and if we prosper, naturally the worker will prosper." That's exactly what business says, and they're justified from their angle in saying that.

    One wants recovery to start from the bottom, and the other wants it to start from the top. I don't know which is right. I've never heard of anybody suggesting that they might start it in the middle, so I hereby make that suggestion. To start recovery halfway between the two, because it's the middle class that does everything anyhow. But I don't know anything about it...

    I know things are going to get better in spite of both sides. Then when things do get better, then you'll hear the yell that will go up. The Democrats will swear that recovery was due to them. Now the Republicans, they'll say it was due to them. Nobody wanted to claim the credit for the country blowing up, but wait until it starts picking up and they'll both be on it then. See?

    I don't think either one of them knows what it's all about, to be honest with you. Both sides are doing nothing but just looking towards the next election."
    Radio, June 9, 1935
  • "You know the more you read and observe about this Politics thing, you got to admit that each party is worse than the other. The one that's out always looks the best. My only solution would be to keep em both out one term and hire my good friend Henry Ford to run the whole thing, and give him a commission on what he saves us." WA #3, December 31, 1922

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   14:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Tooconservative, A K A Stone (#13)

You may not have read down far enough to see this quote, it is one of my favorites….so I will repost it here for you.

“I would love to see Mr. (Henry) Ford in there, really. I don't know who started the idea that a President must be a Politician instead of a Business man. A Politician can't run any other kind of business. So there is no reason why he can run the U.S. That's the biggest single business in the World." WA #5, January 14, 1923.
Ole Will was a man ahead of his time in many ways….this was but one of them.

He must be looking down today and smiling proudly ro see a business man as president.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   14:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#14)

“I would love to see Mr. (Henry) Ford in there, really. I don't know who started the idea that a President must be a Politician instead of a Business man. A Politician can't run any other kind of business. So there is no reason why he can run the U.S. That's the biggest single business in the World." WA #5, January 14, 1923.

He was a dumbass. A government is not a business. And Henry Ford was an antisemite who gave away a copy of "The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion" with every new Model T.

Henry Ford funded printing of 500,000 copies that were distributed throughout the U.S. in the 1920s. The Nazis sometimes used the Protocols to stir up propaganda against the Jews; it was assigned by some German teachers, as if factual, to be read by German schoolchildren after the Nazis came to power in 1933,[1] despite having been exposed as fraudulent by The Times of London in 1921. It is still widely available today in numerous languages, in print and on the Internet, and continues to be presented by some proponents as a genuine document.

You can apply some business techniques in government but a government is never a business. No business has the demands placed on it that every government must deal with. Matters like a big national defense or social welfare programs simply are not a part of the business world. The list of differences between a government and a business are endless.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-04-01   15:34:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#15)

And Henry Ford was an antisemite

OMG, no….in Heavens name, NO …

That was the bad news …

The good news is …

Well, at least Henry Ford was no libertarian …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-04-01   15:43:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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