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Title: Trump shifts blame to Freedom Caucus
Source: Sharon Herald
URL Source: http://www.sharonherald.com/news/na ... 71-502c-a39b-5bdb56f9ac01.html
Published: Mar 27, 2017
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2017-03-27 09:13:34 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1751
Comments: 18

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump on Sunday attacked conservative lawmakers for the failure of the Republican bill to replace former President Barack Obama's health care law, as aides signaled a greater willingness to work with moderate Democrats on upcoming legislative battles from the budget and tax cuts to health care.

On Twitter, Trump complained: "Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!"

The Freedom Caucus is a hard-right group of more than 30 GOP House members who were largely responsible for blocking the bill to undo the Affordable Care Act, or "Obamacare." The bill was pulled from the House floor Friday in a humiliating political defeat for the president, having lacked support from either the conservative Republicans or Democrats.

Trump initially focused his blame on Democrats for the failure and predicted a dire future for the current law.

But on Sunday, his aides made clear that Trump would be seeking support from moderate Democrats, leaving open the possibility he could still revisit health care legislation. White House chief of staff Reince Priebus scolded conservative Republicans, explaining that Trump had felt "disappointed" that a "number of people he thought were loyal to him that weren't."

"It's time for the party to start governing," Priebus said. "I think it's time for our folks to come together, and I also think it's time to potentially get a few moderate Democrats on board as well."

As he ponders his next steps, Trump faces decisions on whether to back administrative changes to fix Obamacare or undermine it as prices for insurance plans rise in many markets. Over the weekend, the president tweeted a promise of achieving a "great healthcare plan" because Obamacare will "explode."

On Sunday, Priebus did not answer directly regarding Trump's choice, saying that fixes to the health law will have to come legislatively and he wants to ensure "people don't get left behind."

"I don't think the president is closing the door on anything," he said.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said Democrats stood ready to work with Trump to fix Obamacare if he is willing to drop attempts to repeal the law and not undermine it. He warned that Trump is destined to "lose again" on other parts of his agenda if he remains beholden to conservative Republicans.

"If he changes, he could have a different presidency," Schumer said. "But he's going to have to tell the Freedom Caucus and the hard-right special wealthy interests who are dominating his presidency ... he can't work with them, and we'll certainly look at his proposals."

Their comments came after another day of finger-pointing among Republicans, both subtle and not-so subtle. On Saturday, Trump urged Americans in a tweet to watch Judge Jeanine Pirro's program on Fox that night. She led her show by calling for House Speaker Paul Ryan to resign, blaming him for the defeat of the bill in the Republican-controlled chamber.

Priebus described the two events as "coincidental," insisting that Trump was helping out a friend by plugging her show and no "preplanning" occurred. "He doesn't blame Paul Ryan," Priebus said. "In fact, he thought Paul Ryan worked really hard. He enjoys his relationship with Paul Ryan, thinks that Paul Ryan is a great speaker of the House."

A spokeswoman for Ryan, AshLee Strong, said Ryan and Trump spoke for nearly an hour Saturday and again on Sunday about moving forward on the agenda, saying "their relationship is stronger than ever right now." In their Sunday conversation, Trump "was clear his tweet had nothing to do with the speaker," Strong said.

The White House faces a tall task in gaining support for its congressional agenda. Trump, for instance, now lacks the savings anticipated from the health care bill to help pay for tax cuts, while expected legislation to invest $1 trillion in roads and infrastructure and to cut down on illegal immigration will likely need support from Democrats.

Priebus said Trump was looking ahead for now at debate over the budget and a tax plan, which he said would include a border adjustment tax and middle-class tax cuts.

"It's more or less a warning shot that we are willing to talk to anyone, we always have been," he said. "I think more so now than ever, it's time for both parties to come together and get to real reforms in this country."

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chairman of the Freedom Caucus, acknowledged he was doing a lot of "self-critiquing" after the health care defeat. He insisted the GOP overhaul effort was not over and that he regretted not spending more time with moderate Republicans and Democrats "to find some consensus."

"It's incumbent upon those two groups, the conservatives and the moderates, to come together, hopefully in the coming days, to find consensus, to present something to the president that certainly not only gets him 216 votes, but hopefully 235 votes," he said.

Meadows also said he was open to a tax plan that is not fully "offset" so it is revenue neutral. That's a shift for a fiscal conservative concerned about deficits.

"Does it have to be what they would say revenue neutral, or do you have to have an offset like with the border adjustment tax? ... I think there has been a lot of flexibility in terms of some of my contacts and conservatives in terms of not making it totally offset," he said.

Trump left the White House on Sunday morning for the Trump National Golf Course in Potomac Falls, Va., returning in early afternoon. Trump also spent Saturday at his Virginia club.

Priebus spoke on "Fox News Sunday," and Schumer and Meadows appeared on ABC's "This Week."

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#1. To: All (#0)

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chairman of the Freedom Caucus, acknowledged he was doing a lot of "self-critiquing" after the health care defeat. He insisted the GOP overhaul effort was not over and that he regretted not spending more time with moderate Republicans and Democrats "to find some consensus."

Bullshit ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   9:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin, Justified (#1) (Edited)

On Twitter, Trump complained: "Democrats are smiling in D.C. that the Freedom Caucus, with the help of Club For Growth and Heritage, have saved Planned Parenthood & Ocare!"

Trump has only himself to blame.

He foolishly believed Lyin' Ryan's promises that he had the votes when clearly he did not.

Then he told Lyin' Ryan to pull the bill so there was never even a vote held. So it was Trump himself who derailed this effort.

So Trump and Lyin' Ryan, having lied to each other and failed to do the hard work of getting consensus across the party, realized that their turkey of a bill was going to fail badly and probably get less than 150 votes on the House floor (because that's what happens once everyone senses defeat), Trump told Ryan to pull the bill and they raced to the cameras and Twitter to try to shift all the blame for what they did to those awful horrible no-good Freedom Caucus kamikazes.

It's a shabby effort to deflect blame from where it belongs: Lyin' Ryan (primarily) and gullible Donald (less so).

Trump had better be careful how he handles himself. Even loyal voters desert once the emperor displays that he has no clothes too often.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   9:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

"Trump has only himself to blame."

"Poe said he doesn't think there was anything that could have been added to the GOP healthcare bill that would have resulted in the Freedom Caucus supporting it. There's some members of the Freedom Caucus, they'd vote no against the Ten Commandments if it came up for a vote," Poe said."

Your blame is misplaced.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-27   9:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

Meadows, acknowledged he was doing a lot of "self-critiquing."

I think Meadows now realizes he shit his pants.

Meadows fully expected the bill to be delayed and he could continue his power play.

Donald essentially said, screw it….I have had enough of your childlike antics and then he had the bill pulled allowing the Freedom Caucus to live with and take blame for what they did.

Donald showed their “no compromise” asses….don’t mess around with me, kids.

Donald will get the job done, the Freedom Caucus has forced him to go to the moderate Democrats now to help all Americans have a better health care bill.

I was not surprised to learn that leaders of the Freedom Caucus are libertarians …

And I must confess, I am thoroughly enjoying watching TC fruitlessly trying to defend the Freedom Caucus assholes …

Although I am ignoring most all of his senseless posts after only reading the lead in …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   10:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

"Poe said he doesn't think there was anything that could have been added to the GOP healthcare bill that would have resulted in the Freedom Caucus supporting it. There's some members of the Freedom Caucus, they'd vote no against the Ten Commandments if it came up for a vote," Poe said."

Poe betrayed his own caucus so he has incentive to badmouth them.

I'd be interested whether Poe is facing a serious challenger in his district or if it is trending Blue.

Wiki: "Lloyd Theodore "Ted" Poe (born September 10, 1948) is an American Republican politician who represents Texas's 2nd congressional district in the United States House of Representatives. The district includes many eastern and northern Houston suburbs. He is the first Republican to represent this particular district."

Houston is the only area where the Dems made substantial gains in Texas in the 2016 election. No one can explain exactly how since there are no obvious reasons.

Poe is likely behaving selfishly. That is usually the case with pols, especially in the House. It is their job to pander to their own constituents, unlike the Senate where their longer term of office is intended to give them independence from their voters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   10:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#4)

Although I am ignoring most all of his senseless posts after only reading the lead in …

You're reading every word. After all, I'm the only one who is bothering to post to these 20-30 idiotic threads you've posted in the last day, some written last Wednesday or Thursday.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   10:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#4)

"Donald essentially said, screw it….I have had enough of your childlike antics and then he had the bill pulled allowing the Freedom Caucus to live with and take blame for what they did."

Trump's healthcare bill was a balancing act between the far-right Freedom Caucus and moderate Republicans. When Trump made concessions to the Freedom Caucus, he lost moderates. And vice-versa.

With neither side giving in, the bill was doomed. And a lopsided Freedom Caucus bill will fare even worse.

So, we wait while Trump works on other things -- and there's plenty to do. Trump's popularity will rise and Obamacare's popularity will sink like a stone. And there's an election next year.

Let's see how many Freedom Caucus members Trump can trash-talk out of office. Assuming they don't have a change of mind between now and then.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-27   10:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Tooconservative (#5)

"Poe betrayed his own caucus so he has incentive to badmouth them."

Perhaps. If he had been kicked out of the club. But having left them, it could be that he feels no need to hide the truth.

"I'd be interested whether Poe is facing a serious challenger in his district or if it is trending Blue."

Him and the other 29.

People don't follow politics the way we do. So next November, after two more dismal years of rising premiums and worse coverage, Trump will use his bully pulpit to blame each and every member of the Freedom Caucus by name for the woes of the people. THEY'RE to blame.

If Trump passes tax reform, construction starts on the wall, and he spends $1 trillion on reconstruction, people will listen and believe.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-27   10:57:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#8)

If Trump passes tax reform, construction starts on the wall, and he spends $1 trillion on reconstruction, people will listen and believe.

He'll need the Freedom Caucus to do any of that. Unless he wants to become a Democrat and betray all his own campaign promises.

The brave Freedom Caucus knows it too. Very few of them are afraid of him. Most of them did get elected to repeal 0bamaCare, not to revive it and make it permanent.

FC has the better position politically. Trump was foolish here, mostly due to his inexperience. Too bad Trump decided to roll in Ryan's swamp instead of draining it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   11:02:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Tooconservative (#5)

Poe betrayed his own caucus

Refusing in a secret meeting to vote with the two leaders of the FC that EVERYONE must vote AGAINST the bill...is not BETRAYAL.

Poe is an AMERICAN HERO for stading up to and exposing BULLIES ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   11:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: misterwhite (#7)

Let's see how many Freedom Caucus members Trump can trash-talk out of office.

That's gonna happen ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   11:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#8)

THEY'RE to blame.

Absolutely ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#9)

Trump is going to drain the Freedom Caucus' swamp....you can count on that.

And I will enjoy watching every minute of it while he does ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   11:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#10)

Poe is an AMERICAN HERO for stading up to and exposing BULLIES ...

The only bullies here were:

  • Lyin' Ryan, threatening committee assignments and re-election funds
  • Trump himself (threating Meadows in the House caucus meeting)
  • Steve Bannon waddling down to the Hill to tell the FC: "This is NOT a debate. You have NO choice"

They act like the House is the old Soviet Central Committee.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   11:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#13)

Trump is going to drain the Freedom Caucus' swamp....you can count on that.

They have the upper hand. Trump gets nothing passed without them.

And dumping them in 2018 likely loses Trump the House.

Tell me again that Trump is running the House. Hell, he wasn't even smart enough to figure out that Lyin' Ryan was leading him to a slaughter until it was too late.

Don't worry your pretty little head about the Freedom Caucus. They'll do just fine. Club for Growth and Heritage Action have plenty of money banked to fund them even if Ryan cuts them off or funds primary opponents.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   11:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Tooconservative (#14)

The Freedom Caucus members act like a bunch of 6-year old spoiled kids.

They must have everything their way.

Afer all, their "motto" is: "NO COMPROMISE."

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-27   11:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin (#16)

Afer all, their "motto" is: "NO COMPROMISE."

Thank God for the Freedom Caucus!

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   11:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#10)

Poe is an AMERICAN HERO for stading up to and exposing BULLIES ...

But Poe was a founding member of the Freedom Caucus, one of the guys who held all these secretive meetings over the years, blackballed Boehner, etc.

Now doddering incompetent Poe betrays his former do-or-die comrades, apparently fearing his own 2018 re-election, and you think he's a hero.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-27   11:50:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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