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Health/Medical Title: Report: White House hoping the health-care bill tanks today [Update: Set to blame Ryan?] Just one source, but it makes sense. Do you really think Trump and Bannon want to spend another month repeating this nightmare in the Senate, and then maybe another month after that negotiating with a conference committee? John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) March 24, 2017 An added benefit if the bill goes down would be the leverage it provides the White House to start shoving Paul Ryan towards the exit as Speaker. While at Breitbart, Bannon was allegedly known to refer to Ryan as the enemy and hoped to have him deposed by spring 2016. Hes worked with Ryan since the election on health care, and reportedly was a good soldier for Ryan and Trump last night in warning the Freedom Caucus during a meeting that its time to suck it up and back the bill. But according to Gabriel Sherman, Bannon is moving behind the scenes to blame Ryan if the bill fails: Bannons a populist. The House bill is
not. It makes sense that he wouldnt like the product. But why, then, would the White House have agreed to support Ryans bill in the first place? Why not insist on a more populist bill from the beginning? The policy answer is that they didnt have the votes for a populist bill: Democrats are unanimous in opposition, meaning that Trump had little choice but to try to placate the conservative Freedom Caucus while hoping that Republican moderates didnt bail as he did. Theres a political reason too, though. When push comes to shove, Trump and Bannon just dont much care whats in the bill. Their interest lies with infrastructure and tax reform; repealing ObamaCare is something theyre doing because the GOP has been making promises about it for seven years, forcing Trump to address it first thing after his inauguration. The White Houses disinterest in the substance is palpable, though. The Trump team talks about this country-altering, life-and-death law like its a chore they have to rush through so they can go play, wrote Daniel Dale, a reporter for the Toronto Star. But dont take his word for it: He said ruefully this week that he should have done tax reform first when it became clear that the quick-hit health care victory he had hoped for was not going to materialize on Thursday, the seventh anniversary of the acts passage, when the legislation was scheduled for a vote
If Mr. Trump has any advantage in the negotiations, it is his ideological flexibility: He is more interested in a win, or avoiding a loss, than any of the arcane policy specifics of the complicated measure, according to a dozen aides and allies interviewed over the past week who described his mood as impatient and jittery. I wonder how long itll be before Trump starts blaming Ryan publicly if the bill fails. In Ryans defense, though, remember that choosing to do health care before tax reform wasnt a purely political decision to appease the Republican base. There was a procedural logic to it too. Because the GOP has only 52 votes in the Senate, not nearly enough to defeat a Democratic filibuster, they need to use reconciliation to pass both bills. But reconciliation comes with a condition: The laws you pass under it must reduce the deficit long-term. Because the GOPs tax-reform bill will be heavy on tax cuts, odds are itll end up increasing the deficit. Solution: Pass a health-care bill first that reduces the deficit greatly, providing a cushion of sorts for the tax-reform bill to come if in fact it ends up increasing the deficit. Even that plan has run into problems, though, as the GOPs health-care fiasco has unfolded. The original version of the health-care bill reduced the deficit by $337 billion over 10 years, but the newly amended version reduces it by just $151 billion. The logic of doing health care first is disintegrating as the bill keeps getting revised. And if the bill today fails, Trumps plan to move on to tax reform will run smack up against the deficit-reduction requirements of reconciliation. Anyway. The Freedom Caucus might grant Trumps wish today: Jonathan Swan (@jonathanvswan) March 24, 2017 Itll be interesting to see how moderate Republicans play this vote. Im sure many would like to vote no on a bill thats polling at 17/56, but they might refrain if it means bearing the brunt of the blame from Trump and his supporters for killing the bill. How they vote, then, may depend on how the Freedom Caucus votes. Even if there are 23+ moderates who want the bill to fail, they may suck it up and vote yes if the FC lines up behind Trump at the last moment and votes yes as well. If, on the other hand, the Freedom Caucus holds out to the bitter end and provides, say, 20 no votes, placing the bill in dire jeopardy, then you may see moderate Republicans vote no en masse. The Freedom Caucus is going to take the fall for this in the media (and likely from Trump himself) if they oppose the bill in any significant numbers. So long as theyre being blamed, moderates can vote no too with little fear of repercussions. Heres Trump making a last-minute check-the-box pitch for the bill on Instagram. He told reporters this morning that he thinks Ryan should stay on as Speaker even if the bill fails. Well see how long that lasts. Update: Yep. Here we go: I think Paul Ryan did a major disservice to President Trump, I think the president was extremely courageous in taking on health care and trusted others to come through with a program he could sign off on, Chris Ruddy, CEO of Newsmax and a long-time friend of Trumps, said in an interview last week. The President had confidence Paul Ryan would come up with a good plan and to me, it is disappointing. Ryans pal Reince Priebus may also be in the crosshairs, per Bloomberg. Sounds like the populists in the White House are seizing failure as an opportunity to clear out some rivals. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
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We dont have legislative language for you We dont have a CBO score for you This thing polls at 17% The Senate wont pass it Vote yes Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) March 24, 2017
Fresh WaPo reporting: 36 no votes, 15 more leaning-no votes. The vote is about to start on the floor of the House. Once defeat is certain, the fence-sitting conservatives and moderates will all rush to vote no just so no Dem challengers can accuse them of having voted for it in their 2018 race. This thing could bring in 150 votes or less. And that really could be the end of Ryan.
Ryan cancels the vote entirely at 3pm ET at Trump's request. The House is adjourned subject to the chair's recall. The House GOP caucus will be meeting after the 4pm Ryan press conference in the Capitol basement.
And so, the negotiations begin for a real repeal of ObongoCare. TrumpCare is dead. I think they wait for 0Care to collapse on its own, confident that they can blame the Dems solely for having passed it. It's not that bad a bet to make.
In the meantime, I continually read variations of this story in many different sources
Everywhere I turn
.the Dems are laughing their asses off. Maybe rightly so. I think it was embarrassing
You're putting a lot of stock in the cackling crones, Pelosi and Xlinton. They're whistling past their own graveyard. And they're obviously craving to celebrate any kind of win against the GOP. They'll have to answer for 0bamaCare's collapse and many failures. Trump did force the issue right up to a vote, so he can credibly say he tried to repeal it before it was too late. Trump would have preferred this pass but having it fail narrowly after everyone said that Trump tried hard to fix it lets Trump mostly off the hook. At the least, he can credibly blame House Dems, greedy House GOP moderates (PA, NJ, NY) and those awful Freedom Caucus teadrinkers for failing to repeal 0bamaCare before it collapses. Trump can blame those darned politicians. Trump mostly regrets having to take a big loss so early. But clearly he wants the tax cuts, the regulatory repeals, the increased funding for defense and an infrastructure bill far more than he really craved revamping 0bamaCare. Both parties would need to be far more sober and down-to-earth before we ever get any kind of meaningful healthcare legislation. The fact that the levers of control reside with lobbyists in D.C. almost ensures it can't be fixed until it utterly fails. The main job of Trump and the GOP is to take a strong "this horrible Democrat law (for which no Republican is to blame) is collapsing on its own." And there was a larger problem that the AHCA only had around 16% support. Assume media polling bias and just double that to 32% support and that's still rotten. And people in polling clearly thought they were in a huge rush to try to reform something with so many moving pieces. I think it is likely to be a big issue in 2019 (unless it just collapses across a number of states in 2018). And a collapse like that is about as likely as not.
You're putting a lot of stock in the cackling crones, Pelosi and Xlinton. They're whistling past their own graveyard. Woah there
.I am not putting a lot of stock into anything. I am simply reading, watching videos, and posting what is happening
.thats all.
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