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Title: Donald Trump on Libertarianism: 'I like it. A lot of good things.'
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goAFqNRVsVU
Published: Mar 13, 2017
Author: Donald J. Trump
Post Date: 2017-03-13 22:09:00 by Hondo68
Keywords: tea party libertarian, lot of good points
Views: 3398
Comments: 13
Published on Sep 9, 2015 Today at the Tea Party Patriots' rally against the Iran nuclear deal, Reason TV caught up with GOP frontrunner Donald Trump: Nick Gillespie: "Hey Donald, what do you think of libertarianism?" Donald Trump: "I like it. A lot of good things. I don't want to talk to you now, but a lot of good things, a lot of good points." Produced by Nick Gillespie and Meredith Bragg. Poster Comment: The first libertarian president, Donald J. Trump.
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#1. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#0)
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Well, you best be careful, because: “What you see is not always what you get.” In this case of Trump with libertarianism….it may be as Yogi Berra would probably say if he were still with us … I just made that up….pretty good Yogi impression, wasn’t it? Listen up, you young wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper….let’s just stop and take a careful look at all of the crazy bizarre and contradictory aspects of Donald’s fantastic and rapid political rise. One of which is the strangest….this billionaire turned politician populist’s puzzling relationship with America’s libertarian movement. Did you ever think about that….I am sure you have not. With your dealings through life, and especially with anything associated with Donald Trump, it is always the actions you should pay attention to and not get enamored with your newfound feeling of the love you are developing for Trump. I am here to tell you, you must learn that Trump doesn’t appear to have any discernible political philosophy (if anything, Trump’s ego is his ideology)….and always remember that when you are tying to outguess, predict or analyze “The Donald.” Oh yea? It’s perfectly safe to say that Donald is one of the most blatantly authoritarian politicians ever seen in American history. And therefore, one would expect freedom-obsessed libertarians to be his natural enemies. Yet you are pissing in your pants with the excited prospect of something you have read, but have never seen any evidence of. To get your mind straight with Donald and his actions, you really need to read … I can assure you that the first thing, lesson, you will learn from Donald….is don’t be so gullible. Gawd….you libertarian assholes are so predictable. I thoroughly enjoy “pulling your chains” and then sitting back and watch you react emotionally, usually angrily upset and sometimes with vituperation. Hey, hondope….if you are buying into it that Trump is a libertarian, then ….
Libertarianism has not yet matured as a political party. There are people within the Libertarian movement who believe in complete opposites of one another. Until this is resolved, the philosophy/party will remain internally fractured.
This is a common libertarian problem for obvious reasons. In a movement filled with opinionated individualists who tend to have big egos, there is bound to be some infighting and factionalism. This is always going to be a problem for libertarians and one that is difficult to overcome. :)
While there are naturally some differences, this statement sounds to me like an extreme exaggeration. The party is based on the philosophy which I expect the vast majority of Libertarians appreciate. The R & D parties, by contrast, do not have any central philosophy driving their platforms. You'll find pro-choice and pro-life people in both parties, for example. Until the voting system changes from the plural version to another type (I favor Approval Voting) it will be impossible for any third party to supplant either of them short of a cataclysmic political event, the likes of which I couldn't even speculate on. Under the pluralist voting system which promotes the so-called "wasted vote syndrome" and "vote for the lessor of two evils" syndrome, the R&D parties are like 2 black holes in a close orbit of each other. As long as they do that, nothing else can get close to them. It's why the only way for a 3rd party candidate to win anything is to register as either an R or D, like Ron Paul did, and to the partial extent Rand is libertarian, him also.
It's good he's aware, but until we see some practical application like shutting down federal raids on medical cannabis and in the international sense like not intervening in Syria's CW, his appreciation for libertarian points doesn't count for much.
Yes we will talk about that, when I have the republicans and democrats under control
Hmmm. An authoritarian politician in a representative republic. How in the heck does that work? Unless, of course, by "authoritarian politician" you mean one who believes in the rule of law. Or, one who uses his position to lead with authority. I've been around awhile and I have never seen a President roll up his sleeves and actually make real (and overdue) changes to government. Or a cabinet filled with qualified people who are going to kick ass and take names. Or a White House inner circle filled with such talent. Or the appointment of a conservative Supreme Court nominee who will be around for decades. Now, if that's what you meant by an authoritarian politician, then I say he was long overdue.
Your assumption is of course correct in the first part….in that the synonym for authoritarian is disciplinarian. The definition of disciplinarian is …
Approval voting would be a disaster. I saw it first hand with the lp vote and the way it was tallied using approval voting.
Libertarians naturally will strongly hype approval voting because getting only 3.2% of votes for POTUS just sucks.
OK. But when authoritarian is cited in a political context, the synonyms are, "autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, draconian, oppressive, repressive, illiberal, and undemocratic".
Any Fine Print … Authoritarian cited in a political context, the synonyms are: "autocratic, dictatorial, despotic, tyrannical, draconian, oppressive, repressive, illiberal, and undemocratic".1 1 Applies when dealing with democrats and libertarians.
Are you referring to the vote for who should take over LP after Sally died?
Donald Trump on Libertarianism: 'I like it. A lot of good things.'
Listen carefully to what is said, because what you hear may not be what you hear.
The first libertarian president, Donald J. Trump.
#2. To: hondo68 (#0)
#3. To: rlk, hondo68 (#2)
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Libertarianism has not yet matured as a political party. There are people within the Libertarian movement who believe in complete opposites of one another. Until this is resolved, the philosophy/party will remain internally fractured.
#4. To: rlk (#2)
There are people within the Libertarian movement who believe in complete opposites of one another.
Until this is resolved, the philosophy/party will remain internally fractured.
#5. To: hondo68 (#0)
Nick Gillespie: "Hey Donald, what do you think of libertarianism?" Donald Trump: "I like it. A lot of good things. I don't want to talk to you now, but a lot of good things, a lot of good points."
#6. To: hondo68 (#0)
a lot of good points."
#7. To: Gatlin (#1)
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"It’s perfectly safe to say that Donald is one of the most bl blatantly authoritarian politicians ever seen in American history."
#8. To: misterwhite (#7)
Now, if that's what you meant by an authoritarian politician, then I say he was long overdue.
You are also correct in the second part, in that “he was long overdue.”
#9. To: Pinguinite (#4)
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
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Approval voting ...
#11. To: Gatlin (#8)
"….in that the synonym for authoritarian is disciplinarian"
#12. To: misterwhite (#11)
#13. To: A K A Stone (#9)
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