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Title: Donald Trump Weakens State Dept As Vladimir Putin Would Want
Source: YouTube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzYjebmHlPM
Published: Mar 9, 2017
Author: TRMS/MSNBC
Post Date: 2017-03-09 09:44:17 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 18240
Comments: 152


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Tillerson is Putin's sockpuppet.

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#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

This happened back in January. Why should Trump have to work with Obama appointees? He wants his own people there.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-03-09   10:11:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#2)

Why should Trump have to work with Obama appointees?


They're not partisan appointees.
They're career staffers who span multiple administrations.

Trump is damaging the State Department Infrastrucure... the Institutional Memory that provides stability, congruity & continuity to our foreign policy.

Willie Green  posted on  2017-03-09   10:49:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green, misterwhite (#4)

They're not partisan appointees.
They're career staffers who span multiple administrations.
Some are partisan appointees while the majority are not….but they are worse than partisan appointees.

They are confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” Democrats whose employment span multiple administrations and need to be "drained from the swamp.”

Records show that of the roughly $2 million that federal workers from 14 agencies spent on presidential politics by the end of September [2016], about $1.9 million, or 95 percent, went to the Democratic nominee’s campaign.

Employees at all the agencies analyzed, without exception, are sending their campaign contributions overwhelmingly to Clinton over her Republican counterpart.

Several agencies, such as the State Department, which Clinton once led, saw more than 99 percent of contributions going to Clinton.”

How about “them” apples….Willy?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-03-09   13:04:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#12)

They are confirmed loyal diehard “card carrying” Democrats whose employment span multiple administrations and need to be "drained from the swamp.”

Yeah... but they're AMERICANs, DAMMIT...

And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs...

Trump should be impeached & tried for High Treason...

Willie Green  posted on  2017-03-09   13:14:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Willie Green (#13)

And fuckin' Putin has no goddam business meddling in our affairs...

Finally a guy who can explain to me this mystery :)

How exactly Putin meddles in American politics?

A Pole  posted on  2017-03-09   17:19:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A Pole (#19)

How exactly Putin meddles in American politics?

HUNDREDS of ways,just like every other national leader meddles in the politics of every other government on the planet in order to seek better deals for his or her own nation.

It's a prime part of the job.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-10   4:43:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: sneakypete, ConservingFreedom, Willie Green, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#32)

"How exactly Putin meddles in American politics?

HUNDREDS of ways,just like every other national leader meddles in the politics of every other government on the planet in order to seek better deals for his or her own nation.

It's a prime part of the job.

I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign.

A Pole  posted on  2017-03-10   6:08:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#39. To: A Pole (#33)

I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections

Not needed. There is an excess of leftist fools that are Americans who are more than willing to do that,and more.

or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign.

Stupid is her normal mode. Putting a chemical in her coffee,or more likely morning glass of wine,to make her stupider might even have the opposite effect. After all,you can't go any further than to the bottom,and then you have to start coming back up.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-03-10 10:23:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A Pole, ConservingFreedom (#33)

I know, but I expected something more spectacular - like Russian hackers falsifying American elections or at least putting some stuff in Mrs Clinton's coffee to make her say stupid things during her presidential campaign.

Clearly, the Xlinton campaign was totally inept at computer security. Their own fault, particularly Podesta's emails. Their errors were pretty much self-inflicted.

To the extent that the Russians "hacking" (i.e. revealing that the DNC stacked the deck against Bernie, the true disparaging opinions of Xlinton insiders like Podesta toward their own voters) affected the election, it was because the voters had accurate info about the candidate and how much she and the Xlinton gang despised pretty much everyone.

As SoS, Hitlery did meddle in Vlad's 2011 election, more to delegitimize his inevitable election rather than a serious attempt to unseat him. So Vlad was, in many ways, trying to return the favor to her. We should not too readily dismiss a certain Russian habit of revenge for perceived insulting behavior.

I don't think the Russians ever imagined, any more than anyone else in the West, that Trump would actually beat Hillary. I do think that Vlad would find delegitimizing the American election, worthwhile in itself but even more so against Hitlery, to be in his own interests as he is not a fan of democracy to begin with. He tolerates it, or at least the trappings of it.

Vlad made a typical Russian play to downgrade a democratic election in the leading Western country with an eye to upcoming elections in the EU, eastern Europe and Turkey. Russia is authoritarian and prefers to deal with other autocratic regimes.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-03-10 13:10:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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