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Title: Rand Paul Blocked By Armed Guards From New Obamacare Bill (Secure Location, Not Available)
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The Libertarian Republic
URL Source: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/r ... med-guards-new-obamacare-bill/
Published: Mar 2, 2017
Author: Kody Fairfield
Post Date: 2017-03-02 21:44:20 by Hondo68
Keywords: Nancy Pelose revisited, Paul Ryan secret, Screw Job
Views: 14645
Comments: 73
the Republican Senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, has tweeted out that he is currently being blocked by armed guards from viewing new, and the secretly kept Obamacare bill. It was hours earlier that Paul tweeted that he heard that the Obamacare bill, being touted as Obamacare-lite by critics, is ” under lock & key, in a secure location, & not available for me or the public to view.” I have been told that the House Obamacare bill is under lock & key, in a secure location, & not available for me or the public to view. — Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) March 2, 2017 The liberty minded Senator did not take kindly to this information and made his intention to share the bill with the public clear in another tweet. I am heading to the secure location where they are keeping the House obamacare bill. I will demand a copy for the American people. — Senator Rand Paul (@RandPaul) March 2, 2017 Upon his arrival at a House hideaway in the Capitol, Paul claimed he was told he could not remove the bill and make it public. The Senator then held an impromptu press conference for media complaining about House Republicans’ lack of transparency, reports Politico. .@RandPaul outside the "secret office for the secret bill." pic.twitter.com/fY8BAVqwvd — Eli Yokley (@eyokley) March 2, 2017 Reports also came in that Paul brought a copy machine with him, presumably to make copies of the bill to share with anyone who’d listen. .@randpaul wasn't allowed to see the House GOP's Obamacare bill. Brought his own copy machine, just in case. pic.twitter.com/KpAXhfltsV — Eli Yokley (@eyokley) March 2, 2017 Politico reports that Paul had an exchange with a staffer as he tried to make off with the draft bill, which could be voted on later this month. “I said I liked to get a copy and they said no go. She wouldn’t tell us anything really,” Paul said in an interview afterward. “Even if I were allowed to look at it, which it didn’t look like I was, how is that democracy?” Republican aides said they believed the room on the first floor of the Capitol is being used for Energy and Commerce members to read the bill. Rep. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.), a committee member, said he was also not able to read the bill and was told it was not available, explains Politico. “It’s literally illegal in my state to do that,” Paul said in the interview. “You can understand for national security why we do it. But for goodness sakes for a healthcare bill? It’s crazy.” The battle for transparency is likely a case that will leave those who want honest repeal of Obamacare completed, either an entire replacement of the legislation or a complete scrapping of it, not a watered down Obamacare-lite version which would keep key provisions of the old bill. The plans for blowing up the Death Star were less closely guarded than the Republican replace and repeal bill. https://t.co/jwPQMyF0y8 — Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) March 2, 2017 Poster Comment: Paul Ryan - You've got to pass it, to see what's in it? ObamaCare-lite = RyanCare
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#39. To: hondo68 (#0)
Ya had me going with you right up to that point. It was a freaking DRAFT,NOT an actual bill,and he had no more right to see it and blab to the public about the debate over it in committee than you or I have. This was nothing more than Paul grandstanding. I am rapidly losing respect for this phoney.
My way or the highway is the impression I get. "Working from the same piece of paper". He needs watching, very carefully!
I don't know why people think he's so honest. He's only somewhat better than Boehner. We need to keep an eye on all of them. And Trump too. His daughter is teeing up Dem-flavored family leave. Trump sounds like he's ready to ram Ryan's plan through whether he understands it or not, and they are definitely trying to gauge whether we'll tolerate some big Shamnesty. Caveat emptor! Just because voters didn't want Hitlery doesn't mean they sold their souls for any bunch of Big Gooberment plans hatched by Ryan. Or McCain/Graham/Rubio. Or Trump. They all bear watching.
Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about in a draft bill that no one has seen, and has no requirement to see…a draft bill that is still in being worked on in committee and continually coordinated for changes with Senate counterparts and the WH? I haven’t seen no evidence that Ryan is dishonest in any way about this draft bill. If there is such evidence….I really would like to see it. I am not seeking confrontation….I am seeking information.
He is withholding it from public view. That alone shows he is dishonest. Back in 2009, we heard no end of bitter complaints that the Dems had locked Republicans out of the room where they were writing their bill and Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it. Seems to me that Ryan's crew is following the same exact path.
He is withholding it from public view. That alone shows he is dishonest. That is really stretching it, TC….calling the withholding the contents of a bill that is work in progress until it is finalized being “dishonest.”. The complete quote is here: It has been said: “Pelosi was conveying that she was anxious for people to find out what was actually in the bill away from the controversies and lies….see no death panels!” And she definitely was not telling Republicans: “YOU must pass the bill to see what’s in it.” As it has often been misconstrued. Nah! Again, that’s way too far a stretch …
Don't you know you've already lost when you have to start quoting the Bitch Queen Pelosi to justify yourself? You know, Rand Paul isn't doing anything to set your hair on fire over. This is a bit of intraparty political skirmishing from the remaining Tea Party wing against the GOPe who are emboldened by Trump's current support for them. I'm still on the same side I was always on, with the Tea folk for "repeal 0bamaCare". Period. I don't think you can say the same, not without hobbling along leaning on Pelosi's daft speechifying back in the day.
It was YOU who FIRST quoted the “Bitch Queen Pelosi” to justify yourself. You don’t remember doing that? Then I will show you where you did in your Post #56: I simply find him an amusing fellow….although simple minded at times, and not in control of his actions. But need the bit of intraparty political skirmishing be made so public? Oh yea, you sided with and supported Rand Paul in his pathetically dismal showing as a POTUS candidate. I have absolutely no problem with you supporting a losing side and a lost cause. After all, it is America and our freedom here gives everyone an opportunity to make a complete ass of themself. God Bless America. I picked my side on June 16, 2015. You remember that date….if not, you most certainly should. It was the date I watched Donald Trump with lofty majestic dignity and an imposing stately aspect descend on the escalator at Trump Tower to announce his candidacy for president. Oops, I go carried away with listening to that again. Now, continuing on ... You gave an inaccurate quote by Pelosi….taken out of context. I merely posted the correctly worded quote for you and placed it in proper context for informational accuracy and objective understanding. You do like to have informational accuracy and objective understand….right? I thought so …
You were defending Pelosi and what she said and I caught you doing it. Now you're trying to wiggle away from it while hurling accusations.
Now you're trying to wiggle away from it while hurling accusations. Nah! You got pissed off and started to talk foolishly and mindlessly. I merely straightened your libertarian ass out. And a fine job I did ….
Fine. Keep defending Pelosi, comrade. You've flown your true colors here and you can't wiggle away from it.
That’s funny….really funny. You Paultard libertarians cannot stand it when someone aggressively stands up to you and backs you down. When this happens, you do the only think you can do….you always isolate on some single item and lung into a personal attack against the individual kicking your ass. Both you and Deckard are masters at attempting this….but when trying it with me, you are pissing in the wind. However, if that is all you have in your ammunition bag….then fire away. I will observe your predictable Paultard libertarian actions with great amusement….as I always have.
#72. To: Gatlin, Lying Ryan Marxist (#71)
ObamaCare-lite theme song.....
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestPolitico reports that Paul had an exchange with a staffer as he tried to make off with the draft bill, which could be voted on later this month.
#46. To: sneakypete, Nancy Pelosi replica (#39)
#47. To: hondo68, A K A Stone (#46)
My way or the highway is the impression I get. "Working from the same piece of paper". He needs watching, very carefully!
#52. To: Tooconservative (#47)
I don't know why people think he's so honest. He's only somewhat better than Boehner.
That is a generalized inference and a pile on comment that may or may not be based on evidence and reasoning. Rather than abstractions, I prefer specifics.
#56. To: Gatlin (#52)
Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest about in a draft bill that no one has seen, and has no requirement to see…a draft bill that is still in being worked on in committee and continually coordinated for changes with Senate counterparts and the WH?
#63. To: Tooconservative (#56)
Therefore, can you tell me unambiguously what Ryan is dishonest …
Back in 2009, we heard no end of bitter complaints that the Dems had locked Republicans out of the room where they were writing their bill and Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it.
You’ve heard about the controversies, the process about the bill…but I don’t know if you’ve heard that it is legislation for the future – not just about health care for America, but about a healthier America,” she told the National Association of Counties annual legislative conference, which has drawn about 2,000 local officials to Washington. “But we have to pass the bill so that you [members of the association] can find out what is in it – away from the fog of the controversy.”
Seems to me that Ryan's crew is following the same exact path.
#66. To: Gatlin (#63)
It has been said: “Pelosi was conveying that she was anxious for people to find out what was actually in the bill away from the controversies and lies….see no death panels!” And she definitely was not telling Republicans: “YOU must pass the bill to see what’s in it.” As it has often been misconstrued.
#67. To: Tooconservative (#66)
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Don't you know you've already lost when you have to start quoting the Bitch Queen Pelosi to justify yourself?
Huh? Excuse me! You are confused. Pelosi daftly talking about passing it to see what's in it.
Got it now? You know, Rand Paul isn't doing anything to set your hair on fire over.
Of course he is not. This is a bit of intraparty political skirmishing from the remaining Tea Party wing against the GOPe who are emboldened by Trump's current support for them.
Nothing wrong with that….I guess. Like when a Senator dragged a portable copy machine all across the Capitol and then called an impromptu press conference in front of a door in the House he already knew he would be forbidden entry into….and then, whining like a baby because he was not permitted entry?
I think not … I'm still on the same side I was always on, with the Tea folk for "repeal 0bamaCare". Period.
Which side was that again? I don't think you can say [you are on the same side you were always on].
Of course I can and you shouldn’t be making such a false assumption. … without hobbling along leaning on Pelosi's daft speechifying back in the day.
Oh, au contraire!
#68. To: Gatlin (#67)
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#69. To: Tooconservative (#68)
You were defending Pelosi and what she said and I caught you doing it.
#70. To: Gatlin (#69)
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#71. To: Tooconservative (#70)
Keep defending Pelosi, comrade.
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