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Title: *Of Course* Libertarians Are Leading the Charge Against Trump's Authoritarianism
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/02/o ... libertarians-are-leading-the-c
Published: Feb 2, 2017
Author: Nick Gillespie
Post Date: 2017-02-15 06:36:19 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 25730
Comments: 89

The Guardian has pulled together five pieces from conservatives and libertarians who are critical of President Donald Trump's authoritarian tendencies and policies. I'm happy to be represented in the mix (for my commentary about Trump's awful, inhumane, and idiotic ban on refugees and travelers from seven countries tied to terrorism). It's a good mix of people, including some conservative critics (The New York Time's Ross Douthat, National Review's David French, Commentary's Noah Rothman) and Steve Horwitz of Bleeding Heart Libertarians along with yours truly. Here's a snippet from my piece:

That's certainly the case with Trump and his orders on sanctuary cities … and on immigration and refugee policy. The laws were not just poorly phrased and timed, they clearly will not work to address the basic issues they ostensibly are meant to ameliorate. As Anthony Fisher noted here earlier today, the US embassy in Iraq has said that Trump's action is a recruitment tool for jihadists, as pro- American Middle Easterners realize they're being hung out to dry. As for keeping America safe from terrorists entering the country as refugees, the fact is the country has an incredibly safe record.

Read the whole collection of pieces here.

Because no good deed or kind word can go unpunished, I'd like to add a bit of nuance to the way the writer, Jason Wilson, encapsulates his piece. Here's the headline and subhed:

Burst your bubble: five conservative articles to read as Trump riles libertarians

Some libertarians are reacting with alarm to Donald Trump's discriminatory executive orders, his authoritarian tendencies and international sabre-rattling

Yet the confusion is right there in headline: The "conservative articles" are the product of Trump "ril[ing] libertarians"? Wuh?

I just don't get the slowness with which people are fully grokking that libertarianism is as distinct from conservativism as it is from progressivism or leftism. I'm not trying to be pedantic or coy here, but there's a reason why libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing. And so it makes total sense that libertarians are leading the attacks on Trump's attempts to be a one-man (or at least one-branch) government. Libertarianism is nothing if not the antithesis of authoritarianism. Always has been, always will be. Be sure to check out Reason's attitude toward whoever eventually replaces Trump. The minute he (or she) starts down an authoritarian road, we'll be on the case.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing.

Libertarians are consistent in their principles regardless of which statist regime is in power.

The Trump cultists here (and the Bush-Bots before them) will accept any level of tyranny as long as it's their guy in the Oval Office.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   8:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#1)

Libertarians are consistent in their principles

Gary the faggot johnson libertardian

murder babies, displace American workers with foreign invaders. If you're a man suck dick.

Fuck the libertarians.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-15   10:13:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#7)

Gary the faggot johnson libertardian

murder babies, displace American workers with foreign invaders. If you're a man suck dick.

Fuck the libertarians.

Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   10:55:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Deckard (#12)

Sorry that the term "libertarian" triggers you snowflake - maybe you need to go to your safe space and pet a puppy.

lol.

Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing.

Right is not wrong.

You dope cultists are amoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-15   11:02:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing.

That's a lie, but don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for those who don't subscribe to your simplistic views.

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories.

The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is.

Ronald Reagan

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   11:18:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#15)

Here is what I don't like about libertarians. They think moral and immoral are the same thing. That's a lie,

Drug use is immoral. Libertarians champion it.

Case closed you lose.

Most libertarians support open borders. It is in their pathetic platform. Neal Bortz for example.

Generally speaking libertarians are atheists.

Atheists suck.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-02-15   11:23:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#17)

Drug use is immoral. Libertarians champion it.

Case closed you lose.

WRONG X 2.

Drug use is NOT immoral,and Libertarians do NOT "champion" it.

What Libertarians stand on is the ground that says all free adults have the right to live their own lives in peace as long as they are not harming others.

What is TRULY immoral is some witch doctor telling the sheep in his flock what is moral and what is immoral,when clearly THEY have no idea of what morality means.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-15   14:10:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: sneakypete (#39) (Edited)

Drug use is NOT immoral

Let me guess, you're one of those asshole faggot loving libtards that call drug addiction a disease?

Illegal drug use IS immoral and prescription drug abuse is also immoral.

GrandIsland  posted on  2017-02-15   20:48:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#74. To: GrandIsland (#73)

Illegal drug use IS immoral and prescription drug abuse is also immoral.

You make no sense. Clearly, you mean to write: "drug use is immoral" but some how you are convinced about some maegikal POWER of GOVERNMENT interference. Why?

buckeroo  posted on  2017-02-15 20:57:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: GrandIsland (#73)

Let me guess, you're one of those asshole faggot loving libtards that call drug addiction a disease?

If you are anything,it is consistently wrong.

sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-15 22:57:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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