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Title: *Of Course* Libertarians Are Leading the Charge Against Trump's Authoritarianism
Source: Reason
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/02/o ... libertarians-are-leading-the-c
Published: Feb 2, 2017
Author: Nick Gillespie
Post Date: 2017-02-15 06:36:19 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 16461
Comments: 89

The Guardian has pulled together five pieces from conservatives and libertarians who are critical of President Donald Trump's authoritarian tendencies and policies. I'm happy to be represented in the mix (for my commentary about Trump's awful, inhumane, and idiotic ban on refugees and travelers from seven countries tied to terrorism). It's a good mix of people, including some conservative critics (The New York Time's Ross Douthat, National Review's David French, Commentary's Noah Rothman) and Steve Horwitz of Bleeding Heart Libertarians along with yours truly. Here's a snippet from my piece:

That's certainly the case with Trump and his orders on sanctuary cities … and on immigration and refugee policy. The laws were not just poorly phrased and timed, they clearly will not work to address the basic issues they ostensibly are meant to ameliorate. As Anthony Fisher noted here earlier today, the US embassy in Iraq has said that Trump's action is a recruitment tool for jihadists, as pro- American Middle Easterners realize they're being hung out to dry. As for keeping America safe from terrorists entering the country as refugees, the fact is the country has an incredibly safe record.

Read the whole collection of pieces here.

Because no good deed or kind word can go unpunished, I'd like to add a bit of nuance to the way the writer, Jason Wilson, encapsulates his piece. Here's the headline and subhed:

Burst your bubble: five conservative articles to read as Trump riles libertarians

Some libertarians are reacting with alarm to Donald Trump's discriminatory executive orders, his authoritarian tendencies and international sabre-rattling

Yet the confusion is right there in headline: The "conservative articles" are the product of Trump "ril[ing] libertarians"? Wuh?

I just don't get the slowness with which people are fully grokking that libertarianism is as distinct from conservativism as it is from progressivism or leftism. I'm not trying to be pedantic or coy here, but there's a reason why libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing. And so it makes total sense that libertarians are leading the attacks on Trump's attempts to be a one-man (or at least one-branch) government. Libertarianism is nothing if not the antithesis of authoritarianism. Always has been, always will be. Be sure to check out Reason's attitude toward whoever eventually replaces Trump. The minute he (or she) starts down an authoritarian road, we'll be on the case.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

libertarians (certainly those at Reason) were intensely critical of George W. Bush's executive branch overreach and Barack Obama's too, while conservatives and liberals generally stayed silent when their guy was doing the power grabbing.

Libertarians are consistent in their principles regardless of which statist regime is in power.

The Trump cultists here (and the Bush-Bots before them) will accept any level of tyranny as long as it's their guy in the Oval Office.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-15   8:31:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#1) (Edited)

Libertarians are consistent in their principles regardless of which statist regime is in power.

The Trump cultists here (and the Bush-Bots before them) will accept any level of tyranny as long as it's their guy in the Oval Office.

I'm consistent also: human basic needs come first, before other considerations. It is best when everybody remembers that and cooperates. But when some men refuse to cooperate, then it is ok and necessary to coerce them to get done what needs to be done.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-15   9:01:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

"then it is ok and necessary to coerce them to get done what needs to be done."

Uh-huh. Take from each according to their ability to pay, and distribute to each according to their needs.

Where have I heard that before?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-15   9:51:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#6)

Uh-huh. Take from each according to their ability to pay, and distribute to each according to their needs.

Where have I heard that before?

Well, you read that each gave according to his ability, and each received according to his needs from St. Luke in his Acts of the Apostles.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-15   10:56:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

"Well, you read that each gave according to his ability, and each received according to his needs from St. Luke in his Acts of the Apostles."

Voluntarily. As an act of kindness and charity.

Not forced by the government.

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#21. To: misterwhite (#16)

Voluntarily. As an act of kindness and charity.

Not forced by the government.

No.

The tithe was for poverty relief, and absolutely mandatory.

The release of debt in the seventh year was mandatory, not voluntary.

The requirement to lend to the poor believer who asks, without interest, is mandatory, not voluntary.

Of course everything is "voluntary". You can go kill somebody if you want to, and maybe get away with it on earth in this life.

But for longer-term prospects, Jesus made clear what we must do.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-15   11:32:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Vicomte13 (#21)

The tithe was for poverty relief, and absolutely mandatory.
The release of debt in the seventh year was mandatory, not voluntary.
The requirement to lend to the poor believer who asks, without interest, is mandatory, not voluntary.

Tithing is not mentioned at all in the Acts of the Apostles. Plus, tithing is a religious concept not a government law.

The same is true of the others.

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