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Foreign Invaders crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report Israel kills head of Hezbollah Intelligence. Status: Not Logged In; Sign In U.S. Constitution See other U.S. Constitution Articles Title: Mythical inalienable rights.? Source: Crazy Guy URL Source: [None] Published: Feb 6, 2017 Author: nolu chan Post Date: 2017-02-06 03:25:38 by tpaine Keywords: None Views: 19899 Comments: 56 Nolu Chan has just posted another rather remarkable claim. (It is an) --- insufferable claim that RKBA is an inalienable right given by God Almighty hisself. The Constitution recognizes capital punishment which takes away all rights, including the mythical inalienable rights. nolu chan posted on 2017-02-06 Poster Comment: Any comments? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 17. #2. To: tpaine (#0) Nolu is a bright guy. He has a sharp legal mind, but a Pharisaic one, like Paul of Tarsus. He believes in the rule of law above all other things. Now, what he said there is absolutely true, in the sense that if your right to life truly were UNALIENABLE, then you could not be executed for crimes. (To argue with ME, Nolu would point out - correctly again - that "unalienable" does not mean somebody can't take it from you in punishment for crime, just that you cannot contract it away). Once again, that would be his assertion of the rule of law as the supreme rule of life. Obviously lawyers like the idea of Rule-of-Law uber alles, the "Master Key", because they possess it and, therefore, have greater power than others. All of these things are always about power and fear. On another thread, strict legalism was being used to justify (as if that were possible) the German invasion of France and the Low Countries and Scandinavia and Poland in World War II. Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-06   6:45:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #3. To: Vicomte13, y'all (#2) We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. -- what he said there is absolutely true, in the sense that if your right to life truly were UNALIENABLE, then you could not be executed for crimes. Most intelligent people can understand the difference between the concept that, -- - ALL humans have inalienable rights, --- and that criminal acts can permanently (or temporally) forfeit those human rights under the rule of (constitutional) law. Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda. tpaine  posted on  2017-02-06   8:28:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #11. To: tpaine, nolu chan, *Bill of Rights-Constitution* (#3) Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda. Nah,he's just a idiot savat so anal all he has to do is sit around in his mother's home and copy and paste court findings to try to prove to himself that he has a life worth living. Nolu,you really are important,and people really do like you because you are such a SMART boy! Honest! Would I lie to you. sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-08   17:27:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #15. To: sneakypete (#11) Apparently, nolu and his pettifogging ilk cannot, --- or more likely, will not, because they have an anti-constitutional agenda. ---- he's just a idiot savat so anal all he has to do is sit around in his mother's home and copy and paste court findings to try to prove to himself that he has a life worth living. That too. --- But I just can't understand why would anyone want to give respect to a clown who works against the constitutional principles we've all pledged to honor and defend? - An idiot that claims our inalienable rights are mythical? tpaine  posted on  2017-02-08   18:42:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #17. To: tpaine (#15) That too. --- But I just can't understand why would anyone want to give respect to a clown who works against the constitutional principles we've all pledged to honor and defend? - An idiot that claims our inalienable rights are mythical? I disagree on one major point. I don't think he is opposed to Constitutional principles. I think he just likes to argue to "prove" "I really am smarter than all the other little boys,mamma,look!" He is either a lawyer or a wannabe lawyer,and a lawyer is a person ready defend either side of any argument,regardless of right or wrong. Truth is irrelevant to lawyers. They just want to win. Which means a good lawyer is by definition completely amoral. They have no sense of right or wrong,so HOW could he actually be morally opposed to anything? sneakypete  posted on  2017-02-08   18:49:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 17. #20. To: sneakypete, yall (#17) I just can't understand why would anyone want to give respect to a clown who works against the constitutional principles we've all pledged to honor and defend? - An idiot that claims our inalienable rights are mythical? I disagree on one major point. I don't think he is opposed to Constitutional principles. Well, he's certainly put a lot of effort into trying to convince all of us that those principles can be infringed. Which means a good lawyer is by definition completely amoral. They have no sense of right or wrong,so HOW could he actually be morally opposed to anything? No one has to be 'moral' to agree to live under constitutional principles. --- All that is required, is that you use self interest, and do onto others as you would have done onto yourself. tpaine  posted on  2017-02-08 19:15:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 17. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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