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Title: Read Neil Gorsuch’s Epic Dissent in a Case Where a 13-Year-Old Was Arrested for Burping in School
Source: Reson
URL Source: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/02/r ... gorsuchs-epic-dissent-in-a-cas
Published: Feb 3, 2017
Author: Robby Soave
Post Date: 2017-02-03 18:18:46 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 3554
Comments: 8

Trump's Supreme Court pick isn't a fan of stupid teen arrests.

Gorsuch

Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's pick to replace the late Associate Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, once dissented in a ridiculous 10th Circuit Court of Appeals case that involved the arrest of a 13-year-old for burping in school.

The majority upheld the school's decision to call the cops and have the teenager arrested for making fake burping noises while in gym class. Gorsuch, however, was not persuaded that the law permitted the state to intervene in such a trivial disciplinary matter.

The case was A.M. v. Holmes. According to The Washington Post's summary of the case, a seventh grader "generated several fake burps, which made the other students laugh and hampered class proceedings." The gym teacher called the school resource officer, who then arrested the teen. The teen's mother sued the officer and school officials on grounds that her son had been unlawfully arrested. The court sided with the school, but Gorsuch dissented:

If a seventh grader starts trading fake burps for laughs in gym class, what's a teacher to do? Order extra laps? Detention? A trip to the principal's office? Maybe. But then again, maybe that's too old school. Maybe today you call a police officer. And maybe today the officer decides that, instead of just escorting the now compliant thirteen year old to the principal's office, an arrest would be a better idea. So out come the handcuffs and off goes the child to juvenile detention. My colleagues suggest the law permits exactly this option and they offer ninety-four pages explaining why they think that's so. Respectfully, I remain unpersuaded...

Often enough the law can be "a ass — a idiot," Charles Dickens, Oliver Twist 520 (Dodd, Mead & Co. 1941) (1838) — and there is little we judges can do about it, for it is (or should be) emphatically our job to apply, not rewrite, the law enacted by the people's representatives. Indeed, a judge who likes every result he reaches is very likely a bad judge, reaching for results he prefers rather than those the law compels. So it is I admire my colleagues today, for no doubt they reach a result they dislike but believe the law demands — and in that I see the best of our profession and much to admire. It's only that, in this particular case, I don't believe the law happens to be quite as much of a ass [sic] as they do. I respectfully dissent.

Over-criminalization of inappropriate kid behavior in K-12 schools is actually a huge national problem, as Tyler Kotesky and I pointed out in our recent feature for the print edition of Reason magazine, "Why Are Cops Putting Kids in Cuffs?" Over the past several decades schools have increasingly hired school resource officers to enforce discipline, which has resulted in more and more misbehaving teens being sent to jail instead of the principal's office. This is a problem, because kids are much less likely to finish school, go to college, and become productive members of society after exposure to the criminal justice system.

It's a problem mostly in need of legislative solutions, so Gorsuch's inclusion on the Supreme Court probably won't make much of a difference. But it's encouraging to know that if a school zero tolerance case came before the Court, Gorsuch would be more likely to defend teenagers' rights and push back against creeping criminalization of normal kid behavior.

For more on Gorsuch, watch Reason TV's interview with Georgetown University Law Professor Randy Barnett. (1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

I read it and he basically says it sucks but thats the law and they followed the law. Its not our[judges] job to rewrite law but to interpret law and give our opinion on matters at hand.

Neil is not at fault, lawmakers are for making such vague laws that can be abused but still be legal even when its wrong morally.

Justified  posted on  2017-02-03   22:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Justified (#1)

Neil is not at fault

No one is claiming he is.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-03   22:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2)

So then why the article? He did what he was suppose to do even though it sucked.

Justified  posted on  2017-02-03   22:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

Oh man am I tied. I guess I should not use my brain when Im this tired. LOL

Good night.

Justified  posted on  2017-02-03   22:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Justified (#3)

So then why the article?

Gee whiz - I posted a positive article about the one of Trump's choices and I get this bullshit from you?

He did what he was suppose to do even though it sucked.

Yeah - it's called a "dissent".

Look it up.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-02-03   22:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Deckard (#0)

"and have the teenager arrested for making fake burping noises while in gym class."

I'm assuming he was warned, but continued to do so. In that case, I say send him to the principal, give him three whacks with a paddle, and send him back to gym class.

Problem solved. I can guarantee you that he will not disrupt that, or any other, class again. No police, no arrest, no record, no parents, no lawyers, no lawsuit.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-07   9:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6)

I'm assuming he was warned, but continued to do so ...

According to the school, the boy was in physical education class when his teacher said he began making other students laugh with fake burps. The teacher sent him to the hallway, where he continued burping and leaning into the entranceway to the classroom so the students could hear.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-02-07   10:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#7)

"where he continued burping and leaning into the entranceway to the classroom so the students could hear."

Hopefully the students will also hear him being paddled, thereby sending the message to the student body that disruptive behavior will not be tolerated.

Tell me that wouldn't work.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-02-07   10:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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