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Title: A Newer Colossus?
Source: Ex-Army Blog
URL Source: http://ex-army.blogspot.com/2017/01/a-newer-colossus.html
Published: Jan 29, 2017
Author: Ex-Army
Post Date: 2017-01-30 14:35:20 by nativist nationalist
Keywords: None
Views: 15588
Comments: 51

Here's a plan. Take this ditzy nonsense off of the Statue of Liberty:

THE NEW COLOSSUS by Emma Lazarus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

And put this on it:

THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON by Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy -- willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

I hope I don't need to interpret either of these poems for you, but just in case...

The first poem is pure BS. The description doesn't apply to the basic American stock at all. It applies to Lazarus' relatives, who were Jews from Europe. An article explaining that is here [link]. Lazarus didn't give a flying you-know-what about gentiles. Her concern for immigration was exclusively to make sure any and all Jews got to come here and be safe until they got around to establishing a Jewish ethnostate to which no gentiles would be allowed to immigrate. The quote to the left is from here [link] and the last sentence in that post is one of my rare disagreements with Steve. Or sort of a disagreement. He says:

Letting in millions of anti-Semite foreigners today is thus not the fulfillment, but the betrayal of what Lazarus and other Jewish-American ancestors worked for.

I'm not at all sure it's a betrayal in the sense Steve means it. I doubt if Lazarus cared anything about the United States one way or the other, except as a temporary refuge for her friends and relatives. If she had the same contempt for the basic American stock that so many Jews of her era and ours have, she'd be indifferent to who else immigrated because all gentiles are basically alike anyway, right? But if she had the hostility to us that many Jew have demonstrated, then she'd think it cool that we got lots of anti- American immigrants because it serves us right for not being Jewish.

And if you doubt that she was a proto-Zionist, here's something from the Jewish Women's Archive [link]:

One of the first successful Jewish American authors, Lazarus was part of the late nineteenth century New York literary elite and was recognized in her day as an important American poet. In her later years, she wrote bold, powerful poetry and essays protesting the rise of antisemitism and arguing for Russian immigrants' rights. She called on Jews to unite and create a homeland in Palestine before the title Zionist had even been coined.

But God help us if we call on White Gentiles to unite and create a homeland in North America. And when we decide to do that, we'll be following the spirit of the second poem.

And Steve Sailer relates all this to a third poem here [link].

And to even more pop-ish pop culture here [link].

Oh, what the hey. Just go here [link] and scroll down to the posts I just referred to and a few more on the same subject.

There's nobody who's been more incisive or funnier about the immigration mess than Steve Sailer. Read him every day. I do.

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#3. To: nativist nationalist (#0)

Saxons, huh?

Well, I'll quote Kipling too, then, but from a French (which is to say better) perspective:

ENGLAND ON THE ANVIL (The Norman Conquest - 1066)

"England's on the anvil - hear the hammers ring - Clanging from the Severn to the Tyne! Never been a blacksmith like our Norman King - England's being hammered, hammered, hammered into line!

England's on the anvil! Heavy are the blows! (But the work will be a marvel when it's done.) Little bits of Kingdoms cannot stand against their foes. England's being hammered, hammered, hammered into one.

There shall be one people - it shall serve one Lord (Neither Priest nor Baron shall escape!) It shall have one speech and law, soul and strength and sword. England's being hammered, hammered, hammered into shape!"

And more Kipling - again from the French (which is to say conqueror's) perspective:

NORMAN AND SAXON (A.D. 1100)(Kipling)

"My son," said the Norman Baron, "I am dying, and you will be heir To all the broad acres in England that William gave me for my share When he conquered the Saxon at Hastings, and a nice little handful it is. But before you go over to rule it I want you to understand this:--

"The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite. But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice right. When he stands like an ox in the furrow--with his sullen set eyes on your own, And grumbles, 'This ain't fair dealing,' my son, leave the Saxon alone.

...

"But first you must master their language, their dialect, proverbs and songs. Don't trust any clerk to interpret when they come with the tale of their own wrongs. Let them know that you know what they are saying; let them feel that you know what to say. Yes, even when you want to go hunting, hear 'em out if it takes you all day.

...

"Appear with your wife and the children at their weddings and funerals and feasts. Be polite but not friendly to Bishops; be good to all poor parish priests. Say 'we,' 'us' and 'ours' when you're talking, instead of 'you fellows' and 'I.' Don't ride over seeds; keep your temper; and never you tell 'em a lie!"

The Saxons probably hated us Normans for awhile, but soon enough they adopted our laws and systems and government, and half our language to boot. They got over it.

Of course, we didn't ruin England, we improved it, by making it something. The Huns...well they just bombed everything and burnt it down, and sank ships full of women and children, so yeah, you can hate them.

The Saxon hate for the Celt didn't come to anything but sorrow in the end, for all.

So Saxon hate has a history, but it's never come to anything successful for the Saxons without foreign allies (or rulers).

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-01-30   17:10:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

America, we were founded to be unique. We should NEVER have gotten into WW I or II, and left the Continent to fend for themselves. Churchill was a horrible person, the biggest crime of that war was the stripping of German land. What the attacks on London were by the Germans were, mosquito bites. Dresden, a war crime that should have brought the wrath of a sane world down on Churchill. Just like the sinking of the Lusitania, maneuvered to happen by the leader of the Admiralty in Britain, Winston Churchill. I will never understand why Americans worship him as a man/god. Hell, he didn't even make his own speeches.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-01-30   18:41:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: jeremiad (#4) (Edited)

America, we were founded to be unique. We should NEVER have gotten into WW I or II, and left the Continent to fend for themselves. Churchill was a horrible person, the biggest crime of that war was the stripping of German land. What the attacks on London were by the Germans were, mosquito bites. Dresden, a war crime that should have brought the wrath of a sane world down on Churchill. Just like the sinking of the Lusitania, maneuvered to happen by the leader of the Admiralty in Britain, Winston Churchill. I will never understand why Americans worship him as a man/god. Hell, he didn't even make his own speeches.

You're out of your mind.

The Germans declared war ON US in World War II, three days after the Japanese attacked us.

We declared war on Japan, and Nazi Germany declared war on us.

They were sinking our ships at sea and killing our people. The ocean does not belong to Nazi Germany. If we, a free and sovereign people, want to trade with England, we will trade with England. If that gets in the way of YOUR war, then get the fuck out of our way anyway and put up with it, because we are stronger than you, and if you sink OUR ships in pursuit of YOUR war, we will come over and kill you.

Stripping land from Germany was the right thing to do. Those lands did not belong to Germany. Schleswig-Holstein was Danish. Czech and Austria were not German.

Konigsberg? Their eastern capital? They invaded Russia twice, and the Soviets WON. The Soviets had the right to dismember Germany and take whatever they wanted.

The Nazis were mass-murdering sons of bitches who got everything they deserved.

Germany invaded France, and Holland, and Belgium, and Luxembourg, and Denmark, and Norway. Peaceful, democratic Western countries. They invaded and killed and slaughtered their way in. Of course the Germans, therefore, deserved to be slaughtered themselves. They started it. They were too weak to win.

So, what did the Germans really do? They were arrogant idiots. Not strong enough to win, they went and burnt down their neighborhood, provoking the wrath of all of their neighbors. Then they went and declared war on America, an immense power. Complete insanity.

So they got smeared all over the ground like bloody roadkill. They got what they deserved for invading Holland and France, Luxembourg and Belgium, Denmark and Norway and Poland. The Germans had no more right to have a single soldier in ANY of those countries then an illegal alien has the right to be in the US. And at least the illegals don't come in with tanks.

Churchill is not relevant. Who cares about him? What the Germans did, they did because they were evil pricks. They invaded nine democratic Republics and committed mass murder in them, or tried to, in order to enforce a claim to power they had no right - not even the faintest claim to right - to have.

They invade, and they killed, and in the end they got crushed and killed. Good.

Dresden was a response to the rocket attacks on London. By that point in the war, it was perfectly clear to any sane person that Germany had lost. What the Germans SHOULD have been doing was negotiating a surrender, a peace, as quickly as possible, to stop the destruction and bloodshed.

Instead, they continued their tear of murder. They developed rockets and fired them into a heavily populated city.

So the Western powers - it was not just Churchill who supported Dresden but FDR who ordered it, had had enough of it. You will no longer murder our people with impunity. We will now show you that we are the greater power, and we can murder your people with impunity too, as many as we damned please, as often as we like.

Here is an example: Dresden dies.

It was an APPROPRIATE response to the murder of our people.

Germans were evil. They launched a war that killed 140 million people. And having clearly lost, they were guilty in defense, for continuing to defend themselves and prolonging the war, killing more and more. They were guilty, having lost, for shooting rockets into a civilian city.

It's a good thing they collapsed in May 1945. Had they stuck around until August, the most appropriate place for the first atomic bomb use would have been Berlin.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-01-31   8:41:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#6)

Some of your facts are correct, but you are wrong. We never should have gotten into WW I. It led inevitably to II and the deaths of 500,000 Americans to keep Britain strong for a minute longer.

jeremiad  posted on  2017-01-31   22:22:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jeremiad (#7)

Keeping Britain strong was not the point.

The Germans should not have been permitted to conquer Belgium and France. They had no right to attack and kill millions.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-01   10:23:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#9)

In WWII France invaded Germany before Germany invaded France. Heh heh.

Look it up.

Irrespective of historical disputation and uncounted generations of European quarrels however, the mass of folks are awakening to the idea that it's time for an end to raking over the coals of strife between Slav and Teuton and Celt.

Watch. Listen.

France’s Presidential candidate Marine Le Pen; The Anglo-Saxons are Awake!

randge  posted on  2017-02-01   15:59:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: randge, Vicomte13 (#11)

[Vicomte13 #9] The Germans should not have been permitted to conquer Belgium and France. They had no right to attack and kill millions.

[randge #11] In WWII France invaded Germany before Germany invaded France.

France, and well as Britain, declared war against Germany on 3 Sept 1939. Germany had every right to attack a nation that had declared war against them and to accept their surrender.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/3/newsid_3493000/3493279.stm

1939: Britain and France declare war on Germany

Britain and France are at war with Germany following the invasion of Poland two days ago.

At 1115 BST the Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, announced the British deadline for the withdrawal of German troops from Poland had expired.

He said the British ambassador to Berlin had handed a final note to the German government this morning saying unless it announced plans to withdraw from Poland by 1100, a state of war would exist between the two countries.

Mr Chamberlain continued: "I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

Similarly the French issued an ultimatum, which was presented in Berlin at 1230, saying France would be at war unless a 1700 deadline for the troops' withdrawal was adhered to.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-02-01   18:43:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: nolu chan (#12)

So, you're going to stand up for Nazi Germany.

Germany had no right in invade Czechoslovakia. They had no right to invade Poland. Once they did, everybody had the right to leap to the Poles' aid. It's a pity we didn't.

France and Britain did.

Belgium, Luxembourg and the Netherlands did not declare war on Germany. Neither did Denmark or Norway. And yet Germany invaded all of those free nations - seven of them. France and Britain declared war because Germany invaded Poland, but none of those other seven countries declared war.

Nor did Yugoslavia or Greece. The Fascists and the Nazis invaded all of them. They were criminals of the first order, and they got everything they deserved.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-02-01   21:51:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#17. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

[Vicomte13 #9] The Germans should not have been permitted to conquer Belgium and France. They had no right to attack and kill millions.

[nolu chan #12] France, and well as Britain, declared war against Germany on 3 Sept 1939. Germany had every right to attack a nation that had declared war against them and to accept their surrender.

[Vicomte13 #13] So, you're going to stand up for Nazi Germany.

No, I am going to stand against the French lament that the German's picked on them after France declared war against Germany.

The unprepared surrender monkeys probably should not have declared war against Germany unless they were capable and willing to fight a war.

When France declared war on Germany, it initiated a state where acts of war committed upon France by Germany were legal.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-02-03 16:57:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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