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Title: US to leave UN
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Published: Jan 23, 2017
Author: paraclete
Post Date: 2017-01-23 08:01:40 by paraclete
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Views: 6653
Comments: 45

A bill was introduced early January that calls for the removal of the United States from the United Nations.

According to the Congress website, H.R. 193 — known as the American Sovereignty Restoration Act — was introduced to the House on January 3 and referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.

While its official title says it seeks to end membership in the U.N., there are several other key components of the bill which include: ending the 1947 agreement that the U.N. headquarters will be housed in the U.S., ending peacekeeping operations, removing diplomatic immunity, and ending participation in the World Health Organization.


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Is this fake news, how come it has been supressed until now, after the inaugeration?

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#1. To: paraclete (#0)

" US to leave UN "

Wonderful news, and loooooong overdue, if True!!

I found these sources:

https://www.rt.com/usa/374754-us-leave-united-nations-bill/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_withdrawal_from_the_United_Nations

jezebel.com/republicans-introduce-bill-proposing-withdrawal-from-un-1791494159

https://christiantruther.com/conflicts/united-states-leave-united-nations/

www.nationalreview.com/article/443642/us-leave-united-nations

So paraclete, what is your source ?

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   8:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: paraclete (#0)

"Is this fake news, how come it has been supressed until now, after the inaugeration?"

The headline is fake news.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   9:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#2)

" The headline is fake news. "

That is really too bad !!

I wish it would happen. US Membership has been nothing but a detriment to us, and it has been a colossal waste of US dollars. I really hope Trumps moves to make it true !!

I have long been an advocate of: GET THE US OUT OF THE UN, AND GET THE UN OUT OF THE US. Move them to someplace more appropriate, like Somalia, WITHOUT US dollars !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   9:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#3) (Edited)

"US Membership has been nothing but a detriment to us"

If we pulled out of the UN, that would make every vote against Israel a unanimous one. The UN would then send in a peacekeeping force to move the Israeli settlers out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem in the enforcement of UN 242 and 383.

Hmmmm. Maybe you're on to something here.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   10:14:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Stoner, misterwhitepowder (#3)

There is a bill introduced to withdraw the U.S. from the U.N.

If we left the UN mister white powder would cry. He thinks they are in charge of the world

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-23   10:19:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#4)

" If we pulled out of the UN, that would make every vote against Israel a unanimous one. The UN would then send in a peacekeeping force to move the Israeli settlers out of the West Bank and East Jerusalem in the enforcement of UN 242 and 383."

Without US participation, the UN peacekeeping force would get their asses handed to them by the Israeli's!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   10:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)

" There is a bill introduced to withdraw the U.S. from the U.N.

If we left the UN mister white powder would cry. He thinks they are in charge of the world "

That is good. The links I found indicate there was such a bill. I pray that it passes. The US will then save a lot of money, and headaches.

I don't care who crys about it, the UN is not in charge of jack shit. Eff em !! The UN needs to drastically be cut down to size, like the size of demonturds brains. SMALL, microscopic !!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   10:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Stoner (#6)

"Without US participation, the UN peacekeeping force would get their asses handed to them by the Israeli's!"

Israel would defeat the military forces of Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain (and every Arab country gleefully joining the fray)?

For what? To defend their illegal settlements?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   10:37:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite, stoner (#8)

To defend their illegal settlements?

Told you. If the UN had a dick misterwhitepowder would suck on it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-23   10:39:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Stoner (#1) (Edited)

I notice this one:

GovTrack.us: H.R. 193: American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017

The one-line description: "To end membership of the United States in the United Nations."

The bill itself has only one listed sponsor, Mike Rogers of Alabama's third district. However, the bill does mention the following in its preamble: "Mr. Rogers of Alabama (for himself, Mr. Jones, Mr. Biggs, Mr. Smith of Missouri, and Mr. Massie) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs". So there is a little interest among Rogers' colleagues.

This bill seems unlikely to go anywhere and will likely be buried quietly in committee.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-01-23   10:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Tooconservative (#10)

" This bill seems unlikely to go anywhere and will likely be buried quietly in committee. "

Could be. But it passing would be good for the US!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   11:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)

misterwhite has not read the book, and obviously does not know how it ends.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   11:17:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Tooconservative (#10)

"This bill seems unlikely to go anywhere and will likely be buried quietly in committee."

Yep. And Representative Mike Rogers will go back to his third district and campaign on the fact that "he tried".

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   12:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Stoner (#12)

"misterwhite has not read the book, and obviously does not know how it ends."

You obviously did not read the book on the Yom Kippur War. That only involved Egypt and Syria and Israel almost lost that war.

Israel blackmailed the U.S. into sending them additional military equipment or they would use their nukes.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   13:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#14)

" book on the Yom Kippur War. "

Not the book I was referring to.

You made reference to " Israel would defeat the military forces of Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain (and every Arab country gleefully joining the fray)? "

That does not sound like " the Yom Kippur War ".

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   14:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#6)

Without US participation, the UN peacekeeping force would get their asses handed to them by the Israeli's!

Exactly.

Non auro, sed ferro, recuperando est patria

nativist nationalist  posted on  2017-01-23   14:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Stoner (#15)

"That does not sound like " the Yom Kippur War ".

My point was that Israel almost lost the Yom Kippur War and they were only fighting two pissant countries.

Yet you're insinuating that a UN peacekeeping force consisting of Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain and every Arab country "would get their asses handed to them by the Israeli's"?

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   14:29:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: misterwhite (#13)

Yep. And Representative Mike Rogers will go back to his third district and campaign on the fact that "he tried".

It's all good...

Sometimes you need a bill, even a doomed bill, to widen some public discussion of key issues. And clipping the U.N.'s wings is long overdue, given their miserable performance as an organization and the hazard they pose to those they claim to be helping.

Tooconservative  posted on  2017-01-23   14:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone (#17)

" My point was that Israel almost lost the Yom Kippur War and they were only fighting two pissant countries. " Yes, but you are ignoring the restraint they had

"Yet you're insinuating that a UN peacekeeping force consisting of Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain and every Arab country "would get their asses handed to them by the Israeli's"? "

If you would go & read the Book of Revelations you will see that when the coalition you speak of attacks Israel, they will receive exactly that. Then, Israel & the ultimate alley will decimate said coalition.

You may choose to disbelieve that. Your choice.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   15:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Stoner (#19) (Edited)

If you would go & read the Book of Revelations you will see that when the coalition you speak of attacks Israel, they will receive exactly that. Then, Israel & the ultimate alley will decimate said coalition.

You mean not the Jewish Apostles who accepted Jesus as Christ/Messiah, but those who rejected Him?

A Pole  posted on  2017-01-23   15:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Tooconservative (#18)

"Sometimes you need a bill, even a doomed bill"

I think trying to leave the UN and failing sends a worse message than not trying at all.

"And clipping the U.N.'s wings is long overdue"

They need to be slapped around, sure. But not by taking our ball and going home.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   15:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Stoner (#19)

"you will see that when the coalition you speak of attacks Israel"

Who said anything about attacking Israel? I said a UN peacekeeping force would remove the illegal Israeli settlers from land that does not belong to Israel.

If Israel chooses to attack peacekeeping forces from Russia, China, Germany, Japan, Great Britain and every Arab country, I don't think it will go well for Israel.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   15:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: misterwhite (#22)

I understand them. They try to get as much as they can get away with. I would do the same in their place.

But time came to settle and make a deal.

A Pole  posted on  2017-01-23   15:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A Pole (#23)

"They try to get as much as they can get away with."

I think everyone knows what Israel is trying to do.

But they'll end up making peace that much harder to achieve. Makes we wonder if they even want peace.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   15:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite (#22)

" Who said anything about attacking Israel? "

"I said a UN peacekeeping force would remove the illegal Israeli settlers "

Six of one, half a dozen of another. Same thing. I doubt the IDF would just sit there & watch.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-23   15:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Stoner (#25)

"I doubt the IDF would just sit there & watch."

It's not their land. The settlers are there illegally. Yeah. Sit there and watch.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   16:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A Pole (#20)

but those who rejected Him?

I thought those people died off thousands of years ago.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-23   16:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: misterwhite (#26)

It's not their land. The settlers are there illegally. Yeah. Sit there and watch.

Translation. You believe in globalism. You think the UN is superior to every sovereign nation on earth.

Like I said if the UN had a weiner you would suck on it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-23   16:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)

I thought those people died off thousands of years ago.

But their followers live on.

Those who follow New Testament and those who follow other tradition.

A Pole  posted on  2017-01-23   16:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#24)

But they'll end up making peace that much harder to achieve. Makes we wonder if they even want peace.

Depends. If this will be a good choice for both sides, they will follow it.

A Pole  posted on  2017-01-23   16:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28)

"You think the UN is superior to every sovereign nation on earth."

You thought they were great when they wrote UN Resolution 181 and gave the Jews land to form the State of Israel.

Now you realize that UN Resolution 181 also gave land to the Palestinians for them to form their state. Suddenly the UN sucks.

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-23   18:28:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#31)

You thought they were great when they wrote UN Resolution 181 and gave the Jews land to form the State of Israel.

No idiot. I wasn't even born back then. The UN resolution is irrelevant and it didn't matter what they did. Israel would still be there and your relatives that resisted would still be dead.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-23   19:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: paraclete (#0)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hr193%22%5D%7D&r=1

https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/hr193/BILLS-115hr193ih.pdf

There is such a bill, introducted by Mike Rogers (R-AL-3) on 3 Jan 2017. It is 115-1 H.R. 193. It has not gone anywhere. It is just a bit premature to say that it will become law and actually do anything.

nolu chan  posted on  2017-01-23   19:30:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: misterwhite (#26)

You keep what you conquer

paraclete  posted on  2017-01-24   6:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: paraclete (#34)

"You keep what you conquer"

Nope. Not since the 4th Geneva Convention, of which Israel is a signatory nation (1949):

Article 49: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."

misterwhite  posted on  2017-01-24   10:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Stoner (#1)

Love this thread. In 2017 in Bible Prophecy, I predicted that the UN will cease to exist this year. I didn't think it would start to happen this soon though, and at the present time the bill probably doesn't have enough supporters to pass it. But within a year or so it will, because the Revelation says so, and Jesus hasn't lied yet. You can take it to the bank.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-24   22:06:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: paraclete (#34)

You keep what you conquer

Exactly. The Jews have conquered the Holy Land, and pretty soon a branch of the Jews (called Christianity) will conquer the rest of the earth just as prophesied over 3000 years ago in Genesis.

interpreter  posted on  2017-01-24   22:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: interpreter (#37)

" You keep what you conquer "

To my knowledge, the US is the only nation that has not done that. With the exception of north America. Everywhere else, the US has only kept enough to bury our dead.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-25   6:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: interpreter (#36)

" I predicted that the UN will cease to exist this year. "

The UN was established to facilitate the establishment of the " New World Order ".

The land for the UN Building was donated by the Rockefeller family.

GET THE US OUT OF THE UN, AND GET THE UN OUT OF THE US !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."Theodore Roosevelt-1907.

I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." -- General Douglas MacArthur

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-25   6:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: interpreter (#37)

Just for the record the jews dont beleive in Jesus Christ, to suggest christianity is a branch of the jews is to attempt to nullify what Jesus achieved

paraclete  posted on  2017-01-25   8:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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