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Title: Trump Won Because He Is A Fake? “Exactly Where The Elites Want Him”
Source: SHTF Plan/Alt-Market
URL Source: http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy- ... e-the-elites-want-him_01022017
Published: Jan 3, 2017
Author: Brandon Smith
Post Date: 2017-01-03 06:04:31 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 15792
Comments: 98

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This article was written by Brandon Smith and published at his Alt-Market.com site.

Editor’s Comment: Will Donald Trump be the president you expect him to be? Or is there a twist ending coming at the end of this election thriller?

Hillary was the most repugnant candidate possible for many voters, fed up with the system and outraged at the above-the-law corrupt behavior, and naturally she was heavily rejected by a massive portion of the country. Even those that supported the Clinton-heir apparent were hardly enthusiastic.

So, it is no wonder that Trump had such a dramatic rise, fueled by media controversy. But was everyone played? And will the next four years end up as an improvement on the past 8, or will it hand more power to the bankers yet again.

Trump Is Exactly Where The Elites Want Him

by Brandon Smith

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful drug. It makes otherwise-very-intelligent people goofy and incoherent in their thinking and blinds them to certain realities that they should normally see right in front of their noses. I witness it all the time in the field of economics — a key piece of logic, a key fact that certain people absolutely refuse to take into account simply because they have a singular idea of how the world works and they cannot allow that idea to ever come into question. They would rather leap into a mental gymnastics routine worthy of an Olympic gold medal than examine the truth. And if you confront them on it, they’ll accuse YOU of being the one in denial.

This is how we ended up with the credit crisis and market crash of 2008/2009. This is how very few people saw the writing on the wall with Syria and ISIS and the fact that the funding and training of Islamic extremists by Western governments for the purpose of proxy insurgency might not be such a great concept. It is the reason why it took years for the mainstream to acknowledge the advent of the East/West paradigm, the same paradigm that alternative analysts warned about years in advance. This is why most mainstream AND alternative analysts completely discounted a successful Brexit referendum.  And, it is why the vast majority of pundits could not even conceive of a Trump victory in 2016.  I could write a list 20 pages long on all the geopolitical and fiscal developments most people missed because they were clinging to assumptions rather than evidence.

Unfortunately, the liberty movement is also sometimes vulnerable to such assumptions. The most dangerous of which revolve around the rise of President-elect Donald Trump.

I have seen endless theories over the past several months on all the ways in which the global elites would sabotage the Trump campaign. I believe the phrase “they will never allow him to win” was repeated in nearly every discussion on the election. The assumption in this instance was that Trump is “anti-establishment” and, therefore, a threat to the globalists. These are the same globalists that people also claimed would “rig the election,” or initiate a “coup” in the electoral college to stop a Trump presidency.

Of course, this never happened. So, a large percentage of the movement needs to question — why didn’t it happen? How did Trump win within a system we know has been rigged for decades?

You’ll hear hundreds of theories and rationalizations on Trump’s miraculous victory, but a reason you will almost never hear is also the most likely one: Trump won the election because he serves the interests of the establishment. Trump won because he is a fake.

This is not an idea that many liberty activists want to entertain. They were so repulsed by the proposition of Hillary Clinton taking the helm at the White House that they would have invested themselves in almost ANYONE running against her, even if they thought that candidate might be controlled opposition. However, not just anyone was fielded as a candidate; Trump was fielded, and for good reason.  I predicted before the Republican and Democratic primaries that the final election would be between Trump and Clinton in my article Will A Trump Presidency Really Change Anything For The Better?, published in March, and here is a quote on why:

“The other ingenious aspect of the Trump campaign is really who he is running against — Hillary Clinton, a rabidly liberal candidate even more hated than Barack Obama. A candidate with a potentially serious criminal record and a penchant for an outright communistic world view far beyond that of Bernie Sanders. Those of us who have been in the writing field for a long time and have dabbled in fiction know that in order to create a fantastic hero, you must first put even more work into creating a fantastic villain. The hero is nothing without the villain.

The unmitigated horror inherent in the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency is like adding jet fuel to the Trump campaign. (And yes, I am assuming according to the results of the primaries so far that the final election will be between Trump and Clinton).”

My point back then as well as now is that without Clinton as the counter-party, Trump would not have garnered the political following he did.  Any other Democratic candidate would not have galvanized conservatives so fervently. As I continued in my pre-primaries article:

“Donald Trump appears to be the perfect antithesis to Hillary Clinton. … the real question is, is Trump a reflection of the frustration and defiance of the conservative population, or, is he a clever ruse by the establishment to co-opt and placate the conservative population before we rebel?”

The staging of the 2016 election might have appeared to some people to be absolute chaos, but to me, it could not have been more perfectly scripted. In later articles covering the election I went on to give Trump a chance.  I stated that I had little doubt that he would win the election and that this would be followed by an economic crisis, probably triggered early in his first term.  Conservative movements would be set up as scapegoats for a crash the globalists had created. However, I believed it (marginally) possible that Trump was not aware of this strategy on the part of the elites. Today, I no longer hold this view.

The first and worst sign that Trump is not anywhere near “anti-establishment” has been his complete reversal of his original “drain the swamp” rhetoric. Trump is not only NOT draining the swamp that is the Washington D.C. and corporate elitist revolving door, he is adding even more creatures of varying ghoulishness.  As Newt Gingrich, who describes himself as an outside adviser to Trump, recently stated:

“I’m told he now just disclaims that…” [Draining the swamp] “He now says it was cute, but he doesn’t want to use it anymore…”

There is a good reason why Trump no longer wants to use that particular slogan — his cabinet is now filled with the exact same elitists he used to slam along with the Washington establishment.

Trump first placed former Goldman Sachs partner Steven Mnuchin as Treasury Secretary. Goldman Sachs has a long history of insinuating its alumni into vital positions within government bodies dealing directly with the economy.  Mnuchin is particularly troubling because of his ties to George Soros; Mnuchin used to work directly for George Soros at Soros Fund Management up until 2004.

Then, for those people that thought maybe Mnuchin was just an anomaly, Trump added Gary Cohn, president of Goldman Sachs, as the director of the National Economic Council.

Trump’s chief strategist and Breitbart executive Steve Bannon is also a former Goldman Sachs investment banker.

It is interesting to note that over a quarter of the gains in the delusional Dow Jones spike after Trump’s election was tied to a rise in Goldman Sachs stock value.  Imagine that…

Trump is also now “advised” on economic matters by the likes of JP Morgan’s Jamie Dimon. Are we starting to get the picture here?

If that is not enough, then how about the fact that Trump is being closely advised by long time globalist Henry Kissinger (just as Vladimir Putin is advised by Kissinger)?  I’m not sure why so many people are surprised by this arrangement; Trump was meeting with Kissinger months before the election. No matter the administration, there is ALWAYS a high level globalist behind the curtain.  Barack Obama had Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Trump and Putin have Kissinger.

I won’t go into the numerous establishment Republicans that Trump has tapped for his administration, I will save that can of worms for another article, but anyone in the Liberty Movement that is not at least generally suspicious of Trump at this point is probably kidding themselves.  The bottom line is, Trump has already LIED to his political base.  He has surrounded himself with globalists and financial gatekeepers when he originally criticized Clinton for the same behavior.  At this point, as long as he working in close proximity with such parasites there is no way for us to know if he is calling the shots, or if his handlers are making decisions for him.

I have heard it argued that Trump “has no choices” outside of D.C. insiders, which is why his cabinet is loaded with bottom feeders from Goldman Sachs. I find this argument rather naive. I would argue that there are thousands of brilliant professionals and people far more trustworthy outside of the beltway that could populate Trump’s cabinet and “make America great again.”  I would even argue that ANY person with little experience inside the D.C. corruption chamber would be better suited to the job.

It seems to me that there are some activists that just can’t let go of the notion that Trump was the candidate the elites wanted all along.  After all, didn’t the powers-that-be do everything in their power to try and stop him from winning the election?

Well, not really.  The media firestorm surrounding Trump, though highly negative in tone, only boosted Trump’s exposure throughout the election. In fact, Trump received more coverage from outlets like CNN than all the other candidates combined.

This was the exact opposite tactic that the elitist controlled media used against true liberty candidate Ron Paul in 2012. With Paul, the media went out of their way to ignore him; they even refused to show a single Ron Paul campaign sign in a crowd if they could avoid it. This was a concerted systematic effort on the part of left AND right wing media outlets to ensure that no one outside of the internet heard about Ron Paul.

So what happened with Trump? Why did the mainstream media abandon a strategy that was very effective against Ron Paul, and why did they give Trump endless free coverage?

The elites also did not take very stringent measures to disrupt Trump’s candidacy early in the race. The Republican National Convention undertook a campaign of disinformation and rule changes in order to ensure that Ron Paul would have no chance of organizing an upset against establishment choice Mitt Romney. The same exact kind of treachery was used by the DNC in 2016 to sabotage Bernie Sanders arguably a far more popular and effective candidate than Hillary Clinton. The party elites have numerous tools at their disposal to kill a candidate’s chances before he or she ever makes it on the national stage, yet, we are supposed to believe that Trump just slipped through the cracks, or beat them at their own game?  I think not.

The election itself was riddled with email leaks and data dumps showcasing the corruption of the Clinton campaign, and yes, this did help to ensure a Trump win. The accusations of “Russian hacking” is clearly a sideshow, but the question remains, who did feed that information to Wikileaks? Some theorize that “disgruntled employees” within the U.S. intelligence apparatus may have leaked the data. I think they were not disgruntled. I think that most of the leaks were part of the election theater from the very beginning. In light of Trump’s clear goal to entrench banking vampires within his administration, I think that the elites always intended for him to “win” the election.

Of course, for some in the liberty movement this claim is sacrilegious. They don’t want to hear it, they’ll hate me for saying it, and that’s fine.  I started my work in 2006 during the Bush years, and I remember quite well what it was like.  I have little doubt that some people will be accusing me of being a “liberal” before they even finish this article, just as people called me a “Neo-Con” during the Obama administration.  People who held fast to “conspiracy theories” surrounding the election and how Clinton was the “chosen one” will now hypocritically call me a “conspiracy theorist” for pointing out that NO ONE gets into the White House without being vetted by the elites, even Trump.

Working in alternative media means not caring if people like you or dislike you. I’ve been able to make numerous correct predictions because I do not concern myself with the pressures of conforming to group-think. My only hope is that many in the movement realize sooner rather than later that their faith in Trump has been ill invested. The great danger is that the liberty movement, the best last chance for saving this nation, will sit on its collective hands idle, centralizing all their hopes and eggs into the Trump basket, waiting for him to gallop in on his white horse and save us all from oblivion. And when that time comes, I suspect that he will do nothing, and the movement will be neutralized by its own desperate desire for a hero and an idol.

This article was written by Brandon Smith and originally published at PersonalLiberty.com. Brandon’s site is Alt-Market.com.(1 image)

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#8. To: hondo68 (#7)

You don't hire the RNC chair for chief of staff. Get real!

Who the eff did that?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-01-03   13:25:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Vicomte13 (#3)

...but I did not fully appreciate the sharp intelligence behind all of it.

I recall all of the Republican rubes saying that about Dubya in 2000 - how did that work out for y'all?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   13:36:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#7)

I'm not a Democrat nor a Republican

Some of the short-bus riders at this site cannot comprehend that.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   13:41:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Fred Mertz (#8)

You don't hire the RNC chair for chief of staff. Get real!

Who the eff did that?

Reince Priebus named Trump’s chief of staff

(Washington Post/Nov 13, 2016) - President-elect Donald Trump has chosen Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus as his chief of staff, according to Trump's campaign.

In choosing Priebus, 44, Trump has tapped a Washington insider who is viewed as broadly acceptable by vast swaths of the Republican Party. Priebus was recommended by House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and will be a bridge between the White House and the Republican-led Congress, as well as the heads of Cabinet agencies. .......

The D&R Party is a suicide cult!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-01-03   14:00:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Deckard (#10)

I'm not a Democrat nor a Republican Some of the short-bus riders at this site cannot comprehend that.

We know you are not.

Because Trump the Republican is against illegals unlike your hero boy Gay Johnson.

You're not a democrat because they are not pro abortion enough.

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   14:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Quit being such a dickhead, if that is possible.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2017-01-03   14:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#12)

your hero boy Gay Johnson.

Never liked the guy - didn't vote for him.

You're not a democrat because they are not pro abortion enough.

Wrong again - hate abortion.

You guys and your disinformation tactics - False Dichotomy

A false dichotomy is typically used in an argument to force your opponent into an extreme position -- by making the assumption that there are only two positions.

Examples:

  • "If you don't vote for Trump, you must be a Clinton supporter" - A third alternative is not voting for either of them.
  • "If you vote third-party, you support Hillary." - Once again limiting the debate to two choices
  • "If you criticize Trump or question his decisions, you must be a Democrat and love abortion." Or "Since you identify as a libertarian, you must be a faggot lover."

    Once again, for the terminally learning impaired....I do NOT support TRUMP OR CLINTON OR JOHNSON.

    I simply do not trust Trump. And frankly, neither should you.

    ***

    I just don't know how to make it any simpler for you to grasp.

    Why don't you try debating the issues instead of going full-Gatlin on the thread?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   14:17:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: calcon, hondo68 (#6)

Fucking nonsense from two friggin democrats

That didn't take long, did it?

I have little doubt that some people will be accusing me of being a “liberal” before they even finish this article, just as people called me a “Neo-Con” during the Obama administration. People who held fast to “conspiracy theories” surrounding the election and how Clinton was the “chosen one” will now hypocritically call me a “conspiracy theorist” for pointing out that NO ONE gets into the White House without being vetted by the elites, even Trump.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   14:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard, hondo68 (#14)

your hero boy Gay Johnson. Never liked the guy - didn't vote for him.

My bad. That was supposed to be to hondo

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   14:35:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, (#14)

Why don't you try debating the issues instead of going full-Gatlin on the thread?

You sound unhappy in your political situation, “Princess.”

That is not unusual for you.

I have never, never, seen you express happiness about anything political.

I’m sure there must have been one, at least one, time you were happy in the political world.

Was there?

If so, please take a moment and tell us all about it.

Happiness is a good thing….it is something you should find and not continually avoid it.

I will not post the same question to hondope….that dumb shit is hopelessly lost, forever.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   14:36:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard, calcon (#15)

Fucking nonsense from two friggin democrats.

That didn't take long, did it?

Never does take long when someone is right about something.

He nailed you two ...

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   14:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone, Deckard (#16)

My bad. That was supposed to be to hondo

That’s funny!

I can’t keep them separated either.

They are tpo much alike.

It was an easy mistake to make.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   14:44:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#16)

My bad. That was supposed to be to hondo

No problem.

Pretty sure you're wrong about hondo though too.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   14:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#17)

I’m sure there must have been one, at least one, time you were happy in the political world.

When Ted Kennedy died.

I will also be happy when NWO puppet and Illuminist Poppy Bush kicks the bucket.

He and his minions were behind the assassination attempt on Reagan, the drug importation at Mena and Iran-Contra Drug Money Laundering (along with Clinton - another reptilian I will be happy to see gone).

In fact the entire Bush Family is criminal, going all the way back to Hitler's "Angel" -- Prescott Bush and his Wall Street cronies helped finance and arm the Third Reich.* Some continued trading with the enemy even after Germany declared war on America.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   14:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Deckard (#21)

another reptilian I will be happy to see gone

Reptilian? Seriously? No wonder they think you are kooky. Come on dude Reptilians. lol

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   15:00:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Deckard (#21)

In fact the entire Bush Family is criminal

Every one without exception?

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   15:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#20)

Pretty sure you're wrong about hondo though too.

Yes he's wrong, but he did manage to bring up one of his favorite subjects... GAY Johnson.

I didn't vote for the pinhead.

The D&R Party is a suicide cult!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-01-03   15:04:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: hondo68 (#24)

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   15:06:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#23)

In fact the entire Bush Family is criminal

Every one without exception?

Yep - Prescott, Jeb!, Dubya, Poppy, Babs - Probably leaving a few out, but you get the picture.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68 (#24)

I didn't vote for the pinhead.

Did you two break up? Because for years you were in love with him.

Hondope "Poster Comment:

As a Libertarian he doesn't have to follow the Trump/Sanders mantra of Big D&R Government, O'RomneyCare socialized medicine, Kindergarten to Masters free communist indoctrination, borrow and bomb nation-building, and the global police state." http://www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=44188&Disp=8

A K A Stone  posted on  2017-01-03   15:09:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#22)

Reptilian? Seriously?

Figuratively, if not literally. Although what David Icke calls being possessed by Reptilian aliens, I believe that most if not all elitists and high ranking political figures are demon possessed.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard (#21)

I’m sure there must have been one, at least one, time you were happy in the political world.

When Ted Kennedy died.

That was over 7 years ago….and you have been miserable ever since.

So pitiful …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#29)

you have been miserable ever since.

Don't confuse your pathetic life with mine.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#28)

Reptilian? Seriously?

Figuratively, if not literally.

I have not laughed so hard in a long time.

You had to explain that?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#30)

you have been miserable ever since.

Don't confuse your pathetic life with mine.

I asked YOU when the last time you were happy.

You said “7 years” ago….I didn’t.

I enjoy happiness every day.

Actually, I never have to “find” it….happiness comes looking for me.

And I am always there waiting …

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Gatlin (#32) (Edited)

I asked YOU when the last time you were happy.

Liar.

You said "in the political world".

Unlike you, I refuse to worship our appointed masters, always seemed more or less a submissive way to live.

But by all means, continue with your daily genuflection at the altar of St. Donald.

Why is it that you folks seem to believe that changing Masters every four years makes you more free?

I realize freedom is not anywhere near the top of the list for you statists.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:25:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard, A K A Stone (#28)

I believe that most if not all elitists and high ranking political figures are demon possessed.

So you truly believe that individuals can be possessed by malevolent preternatural beings.

“Princess” you are strange….nah, you are really WEIRD!

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:25:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Gatlin (#34) (Edited)

So you truly believe that individuals can be possessed by malevolent preternatural beings.

Absolutely!

Oh - you're saying you don't?

BTW - next time you quote Wikipedia, at least provide a link, otherwise folks here might think you've had an original thought.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin, Canary (#29)

That was over 7 years ago

So pitiful …

It takes a special breed of statist ahole to worship Obongo, and you're it!

The D&R Party is a suicide cult!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-01-03   15:31:29 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: hondo68 (#36)

Statism is also the world's Most Dangerous Religion.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:36:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: hondo68 (#36)

With your confessed belief in “demonic possession” I now have you now pegged as one of those snake dancer worshipers -

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:39:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#37)

Statism is also the world's Most Dangerous Religion.

I always figured that libertarianism was.

Wait!

Don’t you for one damned minute that you don’t look upon libertarianism as a religion and worship at its altar.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Deckard (#35) (Edited)

No I don't.

Why bother with who said it, if it is is true?

It is true....right?

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:48:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: hondo68, deckard, A K A Stone (#38)

That post was meant for Deckard.

See, Stone, I told you that I also had trouble distinguishing between the two.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-03   15:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Gatlin (#38)

With your confessed belief in “demonic possession” I now have you now pegged as one of those snake dancer worshipers -

Once again, the self-proclaimed arbiter of truth has declared that demon possession is not real, and anyone who thinks otherwise are peddlers of "fake news".

Here's a suggestion - do some actual research on the topic before you post your "opinions".

BTW - Snake handling, also called serpent handling, is a religious ritual in a small number of Pentecostal churches in the United States, usually characterized as rural and part of the Holiness movement. The practice began in the early 20th century in Appalachia and plays only a small part in the church service.

(See how I provided a link?)

Demon possession occurs world-wide. I can understand your lack of belief, it's much easier for those who have never done any research on a topic to deny anything that is outside the realm of the material world.

I find it amusing that you try and equate the two subjects and continue to display your utter lack of knowledge on either one.

Of course I could post links to sources will back up my claims, but I get the impression that the Bible to you is not a credible source.

Oh - demon possession is real and continues in the modern world, it will increase as we draw nearer to the end times.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Gatlin (#39) (Edited)

Don’t you for one damned minute that you don’t look upon libertarianism as a religion and worship at its altar.

English not your first language Achmed?

Trying to make sense of your disjointed post - Worshiping a political philosophy would be blasphemy.

However the statists have no problem putting their faith in the Almighty state.

You really can't quite grasp the concept of libertarianism, can you?

I mean for Pete's sake - you get your information on libertarians from leftist and socialist websites.

No wonder you're confused.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-03   15:59:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#25)

how quickly they forget their tag line

calcon  posted on  2017-01-03   16:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Gatlin, hondo68, deckard, A K A Stone (#41)

See, Stone, I told you that I also had trouble distinguishing between the two.

they're not the same???

hard to imagine two people born that stupid

calcon  posted on  2017-01-03   16:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Deckard (#9)

I recall all of the Republican rubes saying that about Dubya in 2000 - how did that work out for y'all?

W made one fundamental mistake, and it ultimately cost him everything.

When he had his Pearl Harbor moment, on 9/11, instead of walking onto the floor of a Joint Session of Congress and asking for a formal, full-on Declaration of War - with all of the law-altering power that comes with it - he listened to a bunch of businessman-advisors and flinched, opting to try for guns AND butter.

That was the root of W's failure: a single bad decision at the most momentous moment in American history since December 8, 1941.

FDR took the right decision and called irresistibly for war - full on, total, to-Hell-or-to-Connaught war. And as a result of that and everything that came from it, he was one of our greatest presidents in spite of his many flaws: he won the war that saved the world, and left the economy the master of the world.

W had his moment of decision, and he flinched. And as a result of that and everything that came from it, he will be recorded as one of our least successful Presidents: he lost the "police action", and the economy blew up on account of it.

I don't see anything in Trump that indicates he will flinch. He's another ballsy, arrogant New Yorker, like FDR. I think that Trump will face a lot of decisive moments of confrontation, and that he will master them and make the right decisions - which really means just sticking to the positions he's already laid out.

So, no, W didn't work out. In the moment of truth, he was timid. I don't expect to see such a thing from Donald Trump.

Vicomte13  posted on  2017-01-03   17:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Demonic Possession, Gatlin, ISIS McCain (#38)

The D&R Party is a suicide cult!

Hondo68  posted on  2017-01-03   17:18:49 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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