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Title: Fire Chief Arrested For Preventing A Cop From Making A Fire Worse — House Burns as a Result
Source: Free Thought Project/Law Officer/WEHT-7
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fi ... ire-worse/#fDjgLsEhyEPwAcyC.99
Published: Dec 30, 2016
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2016-12-30 19:39:35 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 19352
Comments: 140

Cannelton, IN – Volunteer Fire Chief Christopher Herzog was recently arrested for attempting to prevent a police officer from making a fire worse. However, the police version of the story makes it sound like Herzog was some crazed assailant attacking heroes. Now, the firefighter is facing a felony.

When kindergartners are taught to “stop drop and roll,” they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo.

Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse. Herzog arrived on the scene to witness the blunder, and attempted to prevent the officer from literally adding fuel to the fire, and tried to get him away from the house.

Sensing that his authority was being threatened, Foertsch arrested the fire chief as the house continued to burn.

To make matters worse, as the house burned, the police ordered the remaining fire crew off of the property, preventing them from doing their jobs and putting lives and property at risk. Officer Foertsch claims that Herzog was shouting obscenities at him and shoving him. However, Herzog says that he was simply attempted to diffuse a dangerous situation, and even if he was shouting at the officer, he had every right to considering the circumstances.

Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed.

“I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,Zukeschwerdt said.

Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave.

“We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, “a lot of the fire department guys started saying let’s grab out gear and go.”

Sadly, after the chief was arrested and the other firefighters sent away, the police officers did nothing and allowed the fire to completely destroy the house. Herzog was taken into custody and lodged in the Perry County Jail on a charge of battery against a public safety official, a level 6 felony.

Soon after the arrest, Herzog was bailed out of jail by Cannelton Mayor Mary Snyder.

It is important to note that the National Incident Management System, which sets national standards for first responders in emergencies such as this, states that the first fire unit arriving on the scene of a house fire are the ones to take command of the incident, which means that Herzog was within his rights to take charge of the situation when he arrived on the scene.

It seems that officer Foertsch was more concerned with his own ego and perceived authority than he was with saving lives, which is a dangerous consequence of giving a person unlimited power.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Strange. Be interesting to hear " the rest of the story "

Stoner  posted on  2016-12-31   7:29:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Stoner (#1)

Be interesting to hear " the rest of the story "

The article neglects to mention that officers were entering the building looking for possible victims, and that Herzog was actually arrested by State Troopers, rather than the police. Of course, facts infuriate Deckard.

Cannelton Fire Chief Arrested after Shoving a Police Officer at a Fire Scene

Perry County (Cannelton): The chief of the Cannelton Fire Department was arrested Tuesday for shoving a police officer multiple times at a fire scene.

Tuesday evening, Cannelton Fire and Police Departments responded to an active structure fire at 550 Knight Street, Cannelton. Cannelton Police Officer Ryen Foertsch and Perry County Deputy Stephen Poehlein arrived at the scene, and immediately entered the burning residence to make sure nobody was inside. After clearing two rooms of the home, smoke became too overwhelming, forcing the officers from the fire.

Once outside, Foertsch attempted to break the window of a room that he was unable to clear. Fire Chief Christopher Herzog approached Foertsch, pushed him hard enough to cause him to step back, and began shouting profanities at him, telling him to get off of his fire scene. Foertsch tried explained to Herzog what they were doing in clearing the burning home, at which point Herzog pushed Foertsch again, and again yelled profanities at Foertsch to get off of his scene.

Both officers conveyed the situation to their superiors. At the request of Cannelton Police Chief Lee Hall, troopers with the Indiana State Police were contacted to investigate the complaint. After investigating, Troopers Jeremy Galloway and Nathaniel Kern arrived at the scene of the fire and placed Herzog into custody. Herzog was lodged in the Perry County Jail.

Arrested and charges: Christopher W. Herzog, 51 Cannelton, IN - Battery Against a Public Safety Official, Level 6 Felony

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Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-31   9:57:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Roscoe (#3)

The article neglects to mention that officers were entering the building looking for possible victims

You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-31   12:14:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#13)

...officers were entering the building looking for possible victims

That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-31   12:26:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#17)

That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.

Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.

Oh, you can't?

Typical.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-31   12:29:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Roscoe (#18)

That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.

Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.

Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.

The cops - not so much.

But if it is your contention that cops should be placed in charge of residential fire scenes, people will die as a result.

Do you really want that?

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-31   16:12:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Deckard (#37)

Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.

KooK, tell that to the families of the 60 cops who died while evacuating the fire engulfed Twin Towers on 9/11.

Vinny  posted on  2016-12-31   16:37:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Vinny (#46)

Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.

...tell that to the families of the 60 cops who died while evacuating the fire engulfed Twin Towers on 9/11.

Oh - were those cops also fighting the fires?

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-31   16:44:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Deckard (#49)

KooK, on 9/11 and in the case you cite the police officers were evacuating the building. So stick that up your tiny hose.

Vinny  posted on  2016-12-31   16:50:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vinny (#50)

When kindergartners are taught to “stop drop and roll,” they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo.

Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse.

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-31   16:58:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Deckard (#52)

KooK, read the link in your article. The police officers cleared two rooms, exited, then fearing additional people might be in the house, broke a window. And thank god they did, had they allowed that human eternal flame into the house he would have burst into flames given his rum intake.

Vinny  posted on  2016-12-31   17:09:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Vinny (#58)

he would have burst into flames given his rum intake.

The Ron Rico Purple Label is 151 proof. Highly flammable.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-31   17:12:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Roscoe (#61)

The Ron Rico Purple Label is 151 proof. Highly flammable.

Total rummy. Red faced, cop fighters usually are.

Vinny  posted on  2016-12-31   18:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Vinny (#74)

Total rummy. Red faced

Still waiting for you to post documented evidence showing the Chief was intoxicated.

...cop fighters usually are.

The cop in this instance should have obeyed the person who has authority at a fire -the Chief.

He would have served a useful purpose by keeping civilians away and fetching donuts and coffee for the real public servants.

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-31   18:31:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Deckard (#76)

The cop in this instance should have obeyed the person who has authority at a fire -the Chief.

KooK, the officers arrested the stewball after he struck an officer at the scene of an emergency where they heroically saved citizens.

So actually they were in charge.

See how this stuff works?

Vinny  posted on  2016-12-31   20:12:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Vinny (#81)

they heroically saved citizens.

So actually they were in charge.

HUH? So you are trying to say that it was the cops who acted heroically?

Not according to the homeowner and witnesses on the scene.

Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed.

“I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,” Zukeschwerdt said.

Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave.

“We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, “a lot of the fire department guys started saying let’s grab out gear and go.”

Gee, what happened next you say?

The house caught fire again, and torched the rest of the house.

And still you ignorantly claim that the cops were "heroes" that day?

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-01   0:13:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Deckard, Vinny (#84) (Edited)

Not according to Chris Zukeschwerdt …

HUH? So you are trying to say that it was the cops who acted heroically?

HUH? so you are trying to still say that Chris Zukeschwerdt is a reliable witness to be completely believed?

There you go again” spouting of about what Chris Zukeschwerdt said.

Chris Zukeschwerdt’s account is inconsistent and in contradiction to other sources.

First, Zukeschwerdt said : “… their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire.”

A couple line down, Zukeschwerdt said: “They pulled the fire chief out while the fire was still smoldering.”

Then a link stated as the handcuffed volunteer fire chief departed, he said to his crew: “Check to make sure there are no hot spots.” [meaning of course, that the fire was out].

Now, please, you cannot possible tell which version of all this is factually correct.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-01   0:46:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Gatlin (#85) (Edited)

This is at least the second or third time you have posted the eyewitness testimony of Chris Zukeschwerdt.

Oh - you mean the HOMEOWNER who was at the scene of the fire the entire time?

Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed.

“I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,” Zukeschwerdt said.

Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave.

“We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say.

Oh yeah - he must be lying, right?

Your whining is growing tiresome.

All charges against the Chief will be dropped. The town can't afford to have the cops and firefighters become enemies. At the very most, this was two guys getting into an argument over who's boss.

It is nowhere near a Level 6 Felony, unless of course you believe that a heroic public servant pushing a badged "hero" rises to that level of criminality.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-01   2:47:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Deckard (#88)

It is nowhere near a Level 6 Felony, unless of course you believe that a heroic public servant pushing a badged "hero" rises to that level of criminality.
The Indiana State Police believed it was a Level 6 Felony, when the independently investigated the incident and charged the volunteer fire chief….and of course that is the belief that mattered

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-01   8:04:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Gatlin (#99)

The Indiana State Police believed it was a Level 6 Felony, when the independently investigated the incident and charged the volunteer fire chief….and of course that is the belief that mattered

Do you believe that the charges should be dropped?

Prosecuting a heroic firefighter doing his job controlling the scene and pushing a cop out of the way does not do anyone any good.

Lives and property will be at risk due to the animosity between the cops and firefighters which will be exacerbated by a felony conviction against the Chief.

I'm sure we can all admit that this situation could have been avoided if the cop would have checked his ego at the door and allowed the firefighters to do their jobs.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-01   11:30:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Deckard (#105)

Do you believe that the charges should be dropped?
If he were to make a public apology for physically attacking the police officer and immediately resigned as the volunteer fire chief….i may then consider that.

The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head who acts irrationally and irresponsibly which makes him mentally incapable to continue acting in his capacity as volunteer fire chief.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-01   13:10:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Gatlin (#112)

The nincompoop publically displayed that he is a high tempered hot head

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job saving lives and property when an ego-centric police officer decided to flex his authoritah and proclaim that HE was now the boss at the scene.

A simple fact that even you should be able to grasp.

As far as apologies, both sides should apologize and end the ongoing animosity that will threaten the lives and property of the town's citizens.

Deckard  posted on  2017-01-01   13:16:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Deckard (#113)

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...

... both sides should apologize ...

It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman.

The policeman has nothing to apologize for.

Gatlin  posted on  2017-01-01   13:26:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Gatlin (#114)

The heroic Fire Chief was doing his job ...

... both sides should apologize ...

It was not his job to lose his temper and attack the policeman.

It God damned well was if the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home.

rlk  posted on  2017-01-01   18:39:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#131. To: rlk (#123)

" the cop, to show his ass, was trying to prevent him from doing his job of putting out the fire. The cop, along with those making excuses for him, should have been sentenced to replace the owner's home. "

Robert, I suspect the property owners insurance company's lawyers, and a jury, will have the final say in this matter.

Stoner  posted on  2017-01-02 10:10:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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