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Title: Fire Chief Arrested For Preventing A Cop From Making A Fire Worse — House Burns as a Result
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Free Thought Project/Law Officer/WEHT-7
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fi ... ire-worse/#fDjgLsEhyEPwAcyC.99
Published: Dec 30, 2016
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2016-12-30 19:39:35 by Deckard
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Cannelton, IN – Volunteer Fire Chief Christopher Herzog was recently arrested for attempting to prevent a police officer from making a fire worse. However, the police version of the story makes it sound like Herzog was some crazed assailant attacking heroes. Now, the firefighter is facing a felony. When kindergartners are taught to “stop drop and roll,” they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo. Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse. Herzog arrived on the scene to witness the blunder, and attempted to prevent the officer from literally adding fuel to the fire, and tried to get him away from the house. Sensing that his authority was being threatened, Foertsch arrested the fire chief as the house continued to burn. To make matters worse, as the house burned, the police ordered the remaining fire crew off of the property, preventing them from doing their jobs and putting lives and property at risk. Officer Foertsch claims that Herzog was shouting obscenities at him and shoving him. However, Herzog says that he was simply attempted to diffuse a dangerous situation, and even if he was shouting at the officer, he had every right to considering the circumstances. Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed. “I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,” Zukeschwerdt said. Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave. “We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, “a lot of the fire department guys started saying let’s grab out gear and go.” Sadly, after the chief was arrested and the other firefighters sent away, the police officers did nothing and allowed the fire to completely destroy the house. Herzog was taken into custody and lodged in the Perry County Jail on a charge of battery against a public safety official, a level 6 felony. Soon after the arrest, Herzog was bailed out of jail by Cannelton Mayor Mary Snyder. It is important to note that the National Incident Management System, which sets national standards for first responders in emergencies such as this, states that the first fire unit arriving on the scene of a house fire are the ones to take command of the incident, which means that Herzog was within his rights to take charge of the situation when he arrived on the scene. It seems that officer Foertsch was more concerned with his own ego and perceived authority than he was with saving lives, which is a dangerous consequence of giving a person unlimited power.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Strange. Be interesting to hear " the rest of the story "
The article neglects to mention that officers were entering the building looking for possible victims, and that Herzog was actually arrested by State Troopers, rather than the police. Of course, facts infuriate Deckard. Perry County (Cannelton): The chief of the Cannelton Fire Department was arrested Tuesday for shoving a police officer multiple times at a fire scene. Tuesday evening, Cannelton Fire and Police Departments responded to an active structure fire at 550 Knight Street, Cannelton. Cannelton Police Officer Ryen Foertsch and Perry County Deputy Stephen Poehlein arrived at the scene, and immediately entered the burning residence to make sure nobody was inside. After clearing two rooms of the home, smoke became too overwhelming, forcing the officers from the fire. Once outside, Foertsch attempted to break the window of a room that he was unable to clear. Fire Chief Christopher Herzog approached Foertsch, pushed him hard enough to cause him to step back, and began shouting profanities at him, telling him to get off of his fire scene. Foertsch tried explained to Herzog what they were doing in clearing the burning home, at which point Herzog pushed Foertsch again, and again yelled profanities at Foertsch to get off of his scene. Both officers conveyed the situation to their superiors. At the request of Cannelton Police Chief Lee Hall, troopers with the Indiana State Police were contacted to investigate the complaint. After investigating, Troopers Jeremy Galloway and Nathaniel Kern arrived at the scene of the fire and placed Herzog into custody. Herzog was lodged in the Perry County Jail. Arrested and charges: Christopher W. Herzog, 51 Cannelton, IN - Battery Against a Public Safety Official, Level 6 Felony -30- HENSLEY
You obviously didn't watch the video. Which is part of the article.
That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command. Oh, you can't? Typical.
Please state your evidence that it isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command. Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires. The cops - not so much. But if it is your contention that cops should be placed in charge of residential fire scenes, people will die as a result. Do you really want that?
KooK, tell that to the families of the 60 cops who died while evacuating the fire engulfed Twin Towers on 9/11.
...tell that to the families of the 60 cops who died while evacuating the fire engulfed Twin Towers on 9/11. Oh - were those cops also fighting the fires?
KooK, on 9/11 and in the case you cite the police officers were evacuating the building. So stick that up your tiny hose.
When kindergartners are taught to “stop drop and roll,” they are also taught that fire feeds on oxygen and that sometimes a suddenly opened door or window could cause a fire. Unfortunately, Cannelton police officer Ryen Foertsch did not get the memo. Foertsch was at the location of the fire and in plain clothes, not dressed as an officer and was attempting to smash in one of the windows of the house, a move that could have obviously made the fire far worse.
KooK, read the link in your article. The police officers cleared two rooms, exited, then fearing additional people might be in the house, broke a window. And thank god they did, had they allowed that human eternal flame into the house he would have burst into flames given his rum intake.
The Ron Rico Purple Label is 151 proof. Highly flammable.
Total rummy. Red faced, cop fighters usually are.
Still waiting for you to post documented evidence showing the Chief was intoxicated. ...cop fighters usually are. The cop in this instance should have obeyed the person who has authority at a fire -the Chief. He would have served a useful purpose by keeping civilians away and fetching donuts and coffee for the real public servants.
KooK, the officers arrested the stewball after he struck an officer at the scene of an emergency where they heroically saved citizens. So actually they were in charge. See how this stuff works?
So actually they were in charge. HUH? So you are trying to say that it was the cops who acted heroically? Not according to the homeowner and witnesses on the scene. Chris Zukeschwerdt, the man who owns the house that was burning, was horrified by the encounter that he witnessed. “I was in shock. When I saw the faces of those firefighters – to see their leader being pulled out of here while he was fighting a fire was just unreal,” Zukeschwerdt said. Zukeschwerdt said that he heard the chief yell to the other firefighters to stay and make sure the fire was put out, as he was dragged away in handcuffs. However, he says that next the police officers took over the scene and ordered the firefighters to leave. “We’re in charge of this scene now,” Zukeschwerdt says he heard an officer say. Zukeschwerdt said at that point, “a lot of the fire department guys started saying let’s grab out gear and go.” Gee, what happened next you say? The house caught fire again, and torched the rest of the house. And still you ignorantly claim that the cops were "heroes" that day?
The weren't there for law enforcement. They were there for ego enforcement. A small minded man looking for a chance to show his authority and prowess.
Oh, BTW - this isn't the first time a cop has arrested a firefighter for doing his job. Cop Handcuffs Firefighter For Trying to Protect Crash Victims, Caught on Tape Cop Arrests Fireman Giving Aid - Jury Awards $18k Juror Betsy Vennemann said after the verdict, "We wanted to make a statement that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated." Capt. David Wilson won $7,500 in compensatory damages and $10,000 in punitive damages. Jurors, including a nun, said they went easy on the defendant, Officer Todd Greeves, because he has a family and they weren't sure who would pay the bill. Wilson testified that the Robertson Fire Protection District truck was parked in a way to protect rescuers working to free a victim from wreckage along Interstate 270 at McDonnell Boulevard. Greeves ordered that the truck be moved to accommodate passing traffic and arrested Wilson for ignoring him. Wilson was released after 23 minutes and never charged. He sued, claiming civil rights violations that opened him to anxiety and humiliation. Greeves told the court the truck was creating a hazard and not adding to safety at the scene. Jurors interviewed after the verdict said their feeling about Greeves was reinforced during the punitive phase of the trial, when they heard there had been other complaints about him. An internal affairs investigation determined that Greeves used excessive force in a 2002 arrest, court documents show, and was the subject of several other complaints. Before Wednesday's deliberations, U.S. Magistrate Judge Mary Ann Medler had already ruled that Greeves had no probable cause to arrest Wilson, who she said had state law on his side. She also dismissed the city of Hazelwood as a defendant.
Lose debate, change story.
Uh, no - I haven't lost the debate and I'm not changing my story. I merely pointed out that this was not an isolated incident. Cops have interfered with firefighters doing their jobs before and they will do it again. Why? Because they just don't learn. Maybe more lawsuits like the one I posted above would be the answer. At any rate, the felony charges against the Chief will be dropped, unless the badged "heroes" want to make an example out of him. By doing so however they will only increase the tension between firefighters and cops - nobody wants to see that. Pursuing criminal charges against Fire Chief Christopher Herzog will ultimately put lives and property in danger.
Lose debate, change story, double down. It's the SJW way.
The part where the crowd was chanting P-D SUCKS!!! was highly entertaining.
Nice selfie kook.
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#3. To: Stoner (#1)
Be interesting to hear " the rest of the story "
Cannelton Fire Chief Arrested after Shoving a Police Officer at a Fire Scene
#13. To: Roscoe (#3)
The article neglects to mention that officers were entering the building looking for possible victims
#17. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone (#13)
...officers were entering the building looking for possible victims
#18. To: Deckard (#17)
That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
#37. To: Roscoe (#18)
That isn't their job at a fire scene unless requested by the Fire Chief, who has command.
#46. To: Deckard (#37)
Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.
#49. To: Vinny (#46)
Oh gee, the Fire Chief has the training and experience fighting fires.
#50. To: Deckard (#49)
#52. To: Vinny (#50)
#58. To: Deckard (#52)
#61. To: Vinny (#58)
he would have burst into flames given his rum intake.
#74. To: Roscoe (#61)
The Ron Rico Purple Label is 151 proof. Highly flammable.
#76. To: Vinny (#74)
Total rummy. Red faced
#81. To: Deckard (#76)
The cop in this instance should have obeyed the person who has authority at a fire -the Chief.
#84. To: Vinny (#81)
they heroically saved citizens.
#86. To: Deckard (#84)
And still you ignorantly claim that the cops were "heroes" that day?
#90. To: Gatlin, Roscoe, Vinny, GrandIsland, rlk, hjondo68 A K A Stone, buckeroo, Stoner (#86)
#91. To: Deckard (#90)
#92. To: Roscoe (#91)
Lose debate, change story.
#93. To: Deckard (#92)
#94. To: Roscoe (#93)
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