LF: Driving Under the Influence… of Starbucks

An interesting case out of California (of course) has a man being prosecuted for “driving under the influence”… of caffeine.

Joseph Schwab was pulled over by a California cop – an Alcoholic Beverage Control cop – who accused him of cutting her off and driving “erratically.” Like a dentist in search of cavities to help him cover the cost of his new boat, the ABC cop was determined to pin some kind of DUI charge on Schwab, even after he took and passed a Breathalzyer test that measured (cue Dean Wormer from Animal House voice) zero point zero alcohol in his system.

So she carted him off to the clink where his blood was drawn (no doubt against his will; the Fifth Amendment being as null as the Fourth) to test for other “drugs.”

Caffeine was (eventually, after a second lab test) discovered.

Voila – Smith was charged with driving under the influence of a “drug” (which caffeine is, of course) just as if he’d been boozing it up – or toking it up. He faces the usual huge lawyer bills, license suspension and general tarring and feathering. It is entirely possible he may be required, as part of his eventual sentence (assuming a conviction) to attend mandatory “drug abuse” counseling sessions.

Schwab’s lawyer, Stacey Barrett, says it may end up before a jury. Your tax dollars at work.

The case tells us a lot about the vengefulness of the state and its minions – as well as something about what may be in store for us with regard to driving under the “influence” of… pretty much anything.

First, there is this ABC cop.

This is speculation, but it is probable she was not happy when the Breathalyzler registered zero and no “illegal substances” were discovered in Schwab’s blood. You have probably heard the saying: When you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And when you are a vengeful hammer…

Schwab’s real crime was Contempt of Cop. This offense is not on the books, of course, but it carries weighty consequences.

He “cut off” the ABC harpie.

She will show him who’s boss.

A mere traffic ticket won’t do the trick. But a major misdemeanor – one that carries with it the possibility of jail time as well as license suspension and years of exorbitantly expensive insurance premiums, based on a conviction for “DUI”… One can almost see this cop poring through the statute book to find something … anything.

The statute book obliged. Under CA law – and the law in many states – any “substance” that could impair a person’s driving qualifies.

Consider the possibilities.

How many people regularly take meds that could impair their driving? Note the italics. Could. Not necessarily did.

Just could.

This low legal threshold is enough to charge most of us of with “DUI” at almost any time.

How about tryptophan? You know, the stuff that’s in turkey that makes you feel glad (and tired) after eating a plateful?

Tryptophan isn’t illegal – but then, neither is caffeine. Both, however, are “substances” that could affect your driving… in theory.

And caffeine is found in more than just coffee. It is in soda and chocolate, too.

How many M&Ms do we dare eat before driving?

And there’s part of the rub: There is no precise/scientific measure of “impairment,” whether by alcohol or any other “substance.” And it is not necessary to establish that a person’s driving was impaired.

Instead, an arbitrary standard – such as “.08 BAC”- is enough to convict a person of “drunk” driving, regardless of their actual driving.

Or, no standard at all – as in the case of Schwab. There is no legal threshold defining the amount of caffeine in one’s system that constitutes “impairment.” Merely to have measurable traces of this “substance” was apparently enough to cuff and stuff Schwab. And may ultimately prove to be sufficient to convict him.

There is precedent.

A driver under the age of 21 who is found to have any traces whatsoever of alcohol in their system – even if nowhere close to the Blood Alcohol Content (BAC) threshold necessary to arrest and convict an adult – can be arrested and convicted for “drunk” driving. In theory (and probably in fact), the trace amounts of alcohol in cough syrup would be sufficient. And even if the under-21 driver hasn’t got any alcohol in them, under Zero Tolerance laws in most states, an “open” container in the car is enough to charge that person with “drunk” driving.

It all sounds crazy, but there’s a purpose behind this. It is to criminalize everyone for anything.

To make it impossible for us to escape a cop – and the system – once it decides to focus attention on us. In order to keep us all in a state of perpetual fear, the necessary prerequisite to subservience. The IRS used to be the main practitioner of this art, but the various other appendages of the government have caught on. If they can’t get you for this, they’ll get you for that. The point being, they’ll get you. Remember your Beria… .

There is no other sane explanation.

The system is either going looney – or it knows exactly what it’s doing.

Move along folks, nothing new here to be learned here….this was already posted and discussed. It is merely repetition and will interfer with your ability to learn.

And you may also say that bull manure is substantially different….but it still is bullshit!

It all sounds crazy, but there’s a purpose behind this. It is to criminalize everyone for anything.

I saw the headline and stopped reading because it is based on a false hypothesis.

The author is attempting to plant a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of a conjecture as a starting point simply for ridiculing.

There is no evidence presented anywhere that Joseph Schwab is being prosecuted for driving erratically while under the influence of caffeine in the coffee he drank at Starbucks.

He is being prosecuted for driving under the influence” of caffeine from an unknown and unnamed source.

Instead of Starbucks coffee as the source of the caffeine, there are many other avenues to get high on caffeine….none were explored.

FACT: The man was driving erratically….he was arrested for DUI….caffeine was found in his system….he is going to stand trial.

You can stammer, stomp your feet, whine, cry and roll around the floor all you wish to do…BU HE IS STILL IS GOING TO STAND TRIAL.

Now, a jury will decide if he is innocent of guilty….that is our American system of justice.

He should have been given a ticket - at worst, but the government thug was offended that she was cut off in traffic by a mere mundane and decided to show her "authoritah".

Eric Peters, much like William Grigg has a unique perspective on the encroaching police state.

You would be wise to consider their words as a warning of what's to come in Amerika.

You do not know that. The fact that she felt it was necessary in today's climate of cop hate police are trying not to make waves.

He could have been acting like a road rage person until he figured out it was an officer and then just been very disrespectful causing the officer to take this guy in to let the courts handle him. Don't forget he was acting funny enough to make the officer give him a breathalyzer test! Did you even think about that?

Its funny im 50+ and never had these issues. I know some will ticket you every chance they get but never been harassed by one. I drive all the time!

The LEO who pulled over Schwab in described seeing him "weaving in and out of traffic, almost causing several collisions."

Good news. The most he was even remotely guilty of was reckless driving. Traffic citation and a couple of points on his license.

I hope there was some kind of dashcam footage that will show the truth of the matter.

I doubt that Alcoholic Beverage Control cop cars have dashcams. But as we all know, cops never lie, chances are pretty good that the word of the offended ABC "cop" will be taken as gospel.

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“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.