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Title: City Passes Ordinance Mandating CCTV Surveillance By Businesses, Including Doctors And Lawyers Offices
Source: TechDirt
URL Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2 ... -doctors-lawyers-offices.shtml
Published: Dec 23, 2016
Author: Tim Cushing
Post Date: 2016-12-24 21:58:06 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6679
Comments: 19

from the taking-the-'private'-out-of-'privately-owned-business' dept

Another government has decided to "protect" local businesses by forcing them to install surveillance cameras.

All commercial businesses located here will now be required to install and maintain security cameras or face a fine or jail following passage of a new citywide ordinance by the Mayor and Board of Aldermen Tuesday night.

“A matter that has been of increasing concern to the board lately is keeping the citizens of Madison safe, as well as the people who come here to visit our stores, through the use of security cameras,” City Attorney John Hedglin said. “It’s very important to have a record of what happens in as many places as possible.”

The ordinance has 30 days before it takes effect.

"Here" is Madison, Mississippi, a city with some very low crime rates -- one frequently named to "safest cities" and "best towns for families" lists. Why it's suddenly concerned about business-focused criminal activity is unclear, but the city's government has decided it should be able to force businesses to install CCTV systems, whether or not they need them… or can even pay for them.

Renee Burns, manager of Hop and Habanas, voiced concerns about the cost of surveillance equipment in an interview with WAPT News.

“Surveillance cameras are very expensive, to get everything set up and it could have people close their stores because they can’t afford it,” Burns said.

And if they can't afford them, the new statute will make sure they can't afford to stay in business.

Existing businesses will have one year after the ordinance goes into effect to comply. Those that fail to comply may be subject to a $500 fine and/or up to 90 days in jail. Each day of noncompliance is a different violation.

While there have been similar statutes enacted in other cities, these have generally been targeted at businesses already subject to extra regulation, like pawn shops, gun stores, and pharmacies. There has been some mission creep in recent years, leading to other businesses being ordered to install surveillance systems, like cellphone resellers and scrap metal dealers.

On top of that, many of these ordinances also allow for on-demand law enforcement access, allowing the government to extend its surveillance reach without having to pay for the equipment. The specifics of Madison's new statute haven't been made available yet, so it's unclear whether the collection of footage from businesses will be voluntary and tied only to investigations requested by business owners, or whether law enforcement will just be able to show up and demand to see recordings.

Then there are other privacy concerns to address. The city's attorney has stated that the ordinance covers businesses like doctor's offices and law offices -- places where patient/client confidentiality has long been assumed. Forcing businesses like these to record interactions with their customers would perhaps prevent more-privacy conscious individuals from seeking help. And this new collection of footage could be abused/misused to identify people who thought their requests for legal/medical assistance wouldn't be turned over to law enforcement.

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#1. To: Deckard, YELLOW JOURNALISM ALERT (#0)

All commercial businesses located here will now be required to install and maintain security cameras or face a fine or jail following passage of a new citywide ordinance by the Mayor and Board of Aldermen Tuesday night.
All" commercial businesses?

NOPE!

Your article really raises its ugly yellow journalism head early on and stands out when the second sentence in the article already contains a flat out lie.

Retail shops, doctor’s offices, lawyer’s offices, and all other commercial establishments with less that a 2,000 square-foot space or less that 25 parking spaces will NOT have to comply
That certainly is not ALL commercial businesses located in Madison, Mississippi….now is it, Dumbtard?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-26   9:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#1)

Retail shops, doctor’s offices, lawyer’s offices, and all other commercial establishments with less that a 2,000 square-foot space or less that 25 parking spaces will NOT have to comply

That is still bullshit though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-26   12:02:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

Retail shops, doctor’s offices, lawyer’s offices, and all other commercial establishments with less that a 2,000 square-foot space or less that 25 parking spaces will NOT have to comply

That is still bullshit though.

I simply said and truthfully proved that the article is just another piece of yellow journalism bullshit filled with lies, half-truths, innuendos and an interview with a person who has no idea what a security system costs.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-26   12:25:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#7)

I don't disagree with what you said. It was correct.

I'm just saying it still sucks what they are doing. Even if it isn't everyone.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-26   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#8)

I don't disagree with what you said. It was correct.

I'm just saying it still sucks what they are doing. Even if it isn't everyone.

It can of course be considered an overreach for the ordinance requiring CCTV security cameras….I agree with you on that.

But it can also be a case of “damned if you do” and “damned if you don’t” for the mayor and police.

Mayor Butler said the city discusses the need for surveillance cameras with new businesses as they come and most voluntarily move forward with them.

There is usually a reason something happens.

Business owners screaming that criminals are not caught and punished….in the meantime, there were “at least two armed robberies in the city [Madison] where surveillance equipment was unable to capture the suspects.

“Pot calling the kettle black.”

This new ordinance requires the CCTV security system to be properly functioning.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-26   14:53:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

Business owners screaming that criminals are not caught and punished….in the meantime, there were “at least two armed robberies in the city [Madison] where surveillance equipment was unable to capture the suspects.”

Hands down, no question about it. More crime is being solved because an increase in video available.

That pisses Ol' Decktard off. lol

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