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Title: 'They don't give a f*** if I die out here in this cold weather': Denver police forced to defend officers after they were filmed taking blankets from homeless people on a freezing night
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... -blankets-homeless-people.html
Published: Dec 17, 2016
Author: Liam Quinn
Post Date: 2016-12-17 14:23:21 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 40690
Comments: 129

  • Footage was widely shared showing homeless people on the street in Denver
  • A group of officers dragged blankets from people and then carried them away
  • The videos were published by the American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado
  • The rights group has called the Denver Police approach in the videos 'cruel'
  • Denver Mayor Michael Hancock denied what was seen is a 'widespread practice'

The Denver Police Department has been forced to defend its officers after shocking video emerged of cops taking blankets and survival gear from homeless people in the freezing cold.

Footage was widely circulated this week showing as many as nine officers standing over a group of homeless people, pulling blankets off them as they slept and sat on the sidewalk.

In a video published on November 29 shortly after 2:30am, two officers stacked the blankets in piles and then carried them away.

The blankets were taken as 'evidence' the homeless people in the video were committing a crime by violating the city's urban camping ban.

'We are taking your tent and sleeping bag as evidence of a crime,' one of the officers told a homeless man, who the video claims is a veteran.

'It's cold out here, and (the police) are telling me they don't give a f*** about whether I die out here in this cold weather,' the homeless man was heard saying in the footage.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado shared the videos this week, and included a letter to Denver Mayor Michael Hancock and the Denver City Council demanding officers stop taking things from homeless people.

'It is not an inherent crime to sleep outside, and many people right now have no other viable option,' ACLU of Colorado Executive Director Nathan Woodliff-Stanley said.

'Denver’s shelters are simply unable to serve all people in the Denver area experiencing homelessness, even in the short term, much less as a long-term solution.

'Until real solutions become Denver’s priority, the city’s ongoing policing-first approach to homelessness is a cruel waste of funds, curtailing fundamental constitutional rights, causing deep human suffering, and endangering lives.'

Hancock defended his officers, saying it is not a 'widespread practice', and claimed the homeless people were protesters.

'The video clip... was actually three individuals who were protesting and setting up camp in front of city hall,' he said, according to CBS Local.

'And after the police asked them to move, they did not, they were cited and their equipment was taken as evidence.

'But this is not a widespread practice throughout the city and we wanted to make sure that it didn’t go any further and that people understand this is not how we want to operate during these frigid temperatures.'

The Denver Police Department also released a statement, saying it took the equipment from the people in the videos because they were 'illegally camping'.

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#1. To: cranky, misterwhite (#0)

Waiting for Whitie to explain this.

A Pole  posted on  2016-12-17   14:34:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A Pole (#1)

They were violating the law. F**k 'em.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-17   16:04:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranky (#0)

'The video clip... was actually three individuals who were protesting and setting up camp in front of city hall,' he said, according to CBS Local.

Is this true that these individuals were in fact 'protesting' and were not homeless?

goldilucky  posted on  2016-12-17   16:14:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#2)

Fuck people because you have a 500 thousand dollar house and they don't.

Jesus said to help the poor people.

You are not a christian. Fuck the law when it is immoral.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   16:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: goldilucky (#3) (Edited)

We had a local story about a veteran who was going 'homeless' for a week in order to raise money and awareness for real homeless veterans.

I did a glance at the news item and didn't see if the local cops tried to turn him into a human ice cube.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-12-17   16:21:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: goldilucky (#3) (Edited)

I just found the story if you're interested. My error, the good Samaritan could only cut it for five days.

www.whas11.com/news/local...meless-veterans/363132534

Fred Mertz  posted on  2016-12-17   16:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#2)

They were violating the law. F**k 'em.

Yeah - that response is much what all of us here expected.

You're like a poster boy for the Limbaugh faction of the Republican party.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul

Those who most loudly denounce Fake News are typically those most aggressively disseminating it.

Deckard  posted on  2016-12-17   16:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#4)

It was a set up.

"The confiscation of the blankets and tents is not a widespread practice of the police department. The reality is we had three individuals who were protesting, were camping out in front of city hall after repeated requests to move along they were cited." - Denver Mayor Michael Hancock

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   16:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A Pole, misterwhite (#1)

Waiting for Whitie to explain this.
Instead of “waiting for Whitie to explain this”….shouldn’t you tell everyone why you accepted carte blanche this piece of yellow journalism published in England as factual when you have not researched what local news organizations reported on the situation. That would be a wise and objective thing to do….you of course agree, right?

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-17   16:59:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#4)

"Jesus said to help the poor people."

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
-- 2 Thessalonians 3:10

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-17   17:01:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Roscoe (#8)

"The reality is ..."

Hey, hey. Watch it. You keep posting facts and you may be banned.

Just limit yourself to touchy-feely stories about the poor and downtrodden breaking the law like everyone else posts.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-17   17:11:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Thank you, Fred. Glad you're back. :)

goldilucky  posted on  2016-12-17   17:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#10)

Thessalonians may have said that. Even the Nazi applied THAT way of thinking towards the unfortunate ones.

The bible is replete with sayings about how we should regard and treat the unfortunate ones for some of us may also end up like them.

www.kingjamesbibleonline....s-About-Helping-the-Poor/

goldilucky  posted on  2016-12-17   17:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: misterwhite (#10)

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. -- 2 Thessalonians 3:10

I didn't read anywhere in the article that they weren't willing to work.

Pretty arrogant to assume that because someone is poor they are not able to work.

Peacefully protesting is a no no I guess.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   17:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Roscoe, A K A Stone, misterwhite (#8)

It was a set up.
This is not surprising.
"The confiscation of the blankets and tents is not a widespread practice of the police department. The reality is we had three individuals who were protesting, were camping out in front of city hall after repeated requests to move along they were cited." - Denver Mayor Michael Hancock

Ah so! Then there was no mass sweep by the Denver PD to sadistically remove the blankets and tents from all the homeless people in Denver to have them suffer mass hypothermia and lie frozen in the streets. It is refreshing to find out that only 3 homeless people refused to leave, were then cited and then had their blankets and tents taken as evidence. As usual, the media did not do a follow up report. However, I am confident those 3 individuals did not remain there overnight in the freezing cold but found their way rather quickly to a homeless shelter…ya think so?

Marijuana businesses in Colorado, a state which legalize marijuana recreationally in 2012, reported roughly $1.1 billion in legal sales of medical and recreational marijuana and related products this year through the month of October, according to the latest batch of tax data from the state’s Department of Revenue. Through October, Colorado has collected more than $150 million in taxes from legal marijuana sales.

Where does all that Denver pot tax go?

A Department of Housing and Urban Development report shows that 37 states decreased homelessness last year. Unfortunately, Colorado and the City of Denver showed no decrease. The study showcases the scale in which homelessness has increased in Colorado. Is there are correlation in the rapid increase in the number of homeless in Denver and the legalization of marijuana….the study does not indicate if there was or was not. Perhaps the most surprising is that Colorado experienced the largest increase of any state in veterans homelessness at 24.3 percent.

Gatlin  posted on  2016-12-17   18:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Gatlin (#15)

- Denver Mayor Michael Hancock

FAKE NEWS propaganda from a professional liar, a politician.

Fake News Alert !

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-17   18:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: hondo68 (#16)

hondo68 is a moron

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   18:30:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Well said.

Vicomte13  posted on  2016-12-17   18:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#14)

"Pretty arrogant to assume that because someone is poor they are not able to work."

It would be arrogant had I said that.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-17   18:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: goldilucky (#13)

"The bible is replete with sayings about how we should regard and treat the unfortunate ones for some of us may also end up like them."

What does the Bible say about those violate the city's urban camping ban and camp out in front of city hall?

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-17   18:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: misterwhite (#11)

You keep posting facts and you may be banned.

I'll risk it.

In both cases, officers on scene offered services and shelter to those individuals. After they refused the police officers’ assistance, the individuals were advised that they were violating the law and needed to move. After several warnings, during an approximate four-hour period outside of the Denver City and County Building, three protesters chose to remain and were therefore cited. Officers collected items as evidence of the violations."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   18:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Roscoe, worships Obongo FAKE NEWS (#17)

Gee, it's the Obongo FAKE NEWS team, worship them!

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-17   18:56:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: hondo68 (#22)

You're the little Obongo community rabble rouser, not us.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   18:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Roscoe (#23)

community rabble rouser,

Quit encouraging armed robbery, blanket. Those thieving po-po gangbangers belong in jail, without a blanket!

Hondo68  posted on  2016-12-17   19:04:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: hondo68 (#24)

Evidence, community rabble rouser.

“In both cases, officers on scene offered services and shelter to those individuals. After they refused the police officers’ assistance, the individuals were advised that they were violating the law and needed to move. After several warnings, during an approximate four-hour period outside of the Denver City and County Building, three protesters chose to remain and were therefore cited. Officers collected items as evidence of the violations."

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   19:16:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: cranky (#0)

the homeless people were protestors

so you can't arrest people in daylight, what is this the vampire squad?

paraclete  posted on  2016-12-17   19:48:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Roscoe (#21)

What law did they violate?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   20:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#27)

What law did they violate?

It was a local ordnance

Sec. 38-86.2. - Unauthorized camping on public or private property prohibited.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to camp upon any private property without the express written consent of the property owner or the owner's agent, and only in such locations where camping may be conducted in accordance with any other applicable city law. (b) It shall be unlawful for any person to camp upon any public property except in any location where camping has been expressly allowed by the officer or agency having the control, management and supervision of the public property in question. (c) No law enforcement officer shall issue a citation, make an arrest or otherwise enforce this section against any person unless: (1) The officer orally requests or orders the person to refrain from the alleged violation of this section and, if the person fails to comply after receiving the oral request or order, the officer tenders a written request or order to the person warning that if the person fails to comply the person may be cited or arrested for a violation of this section; and (2) The officer attempts to ascertain whether the person is in need of medical or human services assistance, including, but not limited, to mental health treatment, drug or alcohol rehabilitation, or homeless services assistance. If the officer determines that the person may be in need of medical or human services assistance, the officer shall make reasonable efforts to contact and obtain the assistance of a designated human service outreach worker, who in turn shall assess the needs of the person and, if warranted, direct the person to an appropriate provider of medical or human services assistance in lieu of the person being cited or arrested for a violation of this section. If the officer is unable to obtain the assistance of a human services outreach worker, if the human services outreach worker determines that the person is not in need of medical or human services assistance, or if the person refuses to cooperate with the direction of the human services outreach worker, the officer may proceed to cite or arrest the person for a violation of this section so long as the warnings required by paragraph (1) of this subsection have been previously given. (d) For purposes of this section: (1) "Camp" means to reside or dwell temporarily in a place, with shelter. The term "shelter" includes, without limitation, any tent, tarpaulin, lean-to, sleeping bag, bedroll, blankets, or any form of cover or protection from the elements other than clothing. The term "reside or dwell" includes, without limitation, conducting such activities as eating, sleeping, or the storage of personal possessions. (2) "Designated human service outreach worker" shall mean any person designated in writing by the manager of the Denver Department of Human Services to assist law enforcement officers as provided in subsection (c), regardless of whether the person is an employee of the department of human services. (3) "Public property" means, by way of illustration, any street, alley, sidewalk, pedestrian or transit mall, bike path, greenway, or any other structure or area encompassed within the public right-of-way; any park, parkway, mountain park, or other recreation facility; or any other grounds, buildings, or other facilities owned or leased by the city or by any other public owner, regardless of whether such public property is vacant or occupied and actively used for any public purpose.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   20:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)

Illegally camping on the public right-of-way outside of the Denver City and County Building.

There were hundreds of open beds in shelters across the city, and officers offered to take them to shelters. They refused, and continued trespassing.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   20:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: GrandIsland (#28)

Yes the government passed that law. But truthfully without any doubt it violates the constitution.

First amendment- Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The people protesting were protesting peacefully. It is cold outside and you can't expect them to protest in shorts and a t shirt. There is no limitation on what time of year they are allowed to protest.

Furthermore the police violated their fourth amendment rights. Their tents are their effects.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

So I realize courts may decide differetnly. But I don't care what they decide. I can read and I know the truth.

Just because the government doesn't want to be inconvenienced they harrassed these people and violated their rights.

I don't care if you call it camping or not. They were there protesting peacefully. They need tents and blankets to keep warm.

I know you will not agree with me and that is ok.

But I have one question for you. If the situation was the same except they didn't have tents would you have the same opinion?

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   20:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Roscoe (#29)

Illegally camping on the public right-of-way outside of the Denver City and County Building.

There were hundreds of open beds in shelters across the city, and officers offered to take them to shelters. They refused, and continued trespassing.

Read my previous post.

Then admit that you don't really give a shit about the constitution except where you agree with it. Like the second amendment.

Oh well. It doesn't matter what we think they are going to do what they are going to do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   20:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: misterwhite (#19)

Pretty arrogant to assume that because someone is poor they are not able to work."

It would be arrogant had I said that.

Then what was your point to adding that scripture as a response? It sure seems like that is what you were implying.

Jesus said to help the poor people."

For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. -- 2 Thessalonians 3:10

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   20:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Roscoe (#29)

Manche führen, manche folgen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   20:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#30)

If the situation was the same except they didn't have tents would you have the same opinion?

I didn't read the whole article, because I quickly realized that it was YELLA. The author attempts to invoke sympathy from the weak liberal populace by painting the arrestees as "homeless" when they were really protesters. THAT'S YELLA.

It's getting difficult to find a truthfull, well written article on this site that doesn't have a fucking agenda behind it. It's almost as bad as CNN.

Ok... I'll answer your question. If they were truly homeless, and I wasn't going to be terminated for insubordination, no, I wouldn't have taken their blankets and tents. I wouldn't have arrested them either. I'd have tried to relocate them in another part of my jurisdiction, that would cause less public complaints. If they were PROTESTERS, with nice warm homes... but the libtarded assholes like to act like anarchist Deckard, I'd have cuffed them up, confiscated their CAMP equipment... in a professional but not so nice fashion.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   20:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)

I'd be careful with how you interpret that... I doubt Jesus was a socialist. We can "help" the poor without enabling them.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   20:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#34)

If they were PROTESTERS, with nice warm homes... but the libtarded assholes like to act like anarchist Deckard, I'd have cuffed them up, confiscated their CAMP equipment... in a professional but not so nice fashion.

But protesting isn't against the law. It is protected as free speech in the first amendment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   21:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: GrandIsland (#35)

I doubt Jesus was a socialist. We can "help" the poor without enabling them.

I don't think these protesters were looking for handouts. Correct me if I am wrong.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   21:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#36)

But protesting isn't against the law.

You making that comment is also YELLA. Nobody said protesting is against the law. They were doing more than protesting... they were also illegally CAMPING... acting like an asshole Deckard in the 1st degree.

Protesting doesn't give you special rights to break the law. They can't do it naked, they can't burn shit... and they can't violate local ordnances... just because they are protesting. Let's leave the YELLA out of this discussion if you want to really talk.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   21:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#37)

I don't think these protesters were looking for handouts

Expecting to NOT get arrested for breaking an ordinance is a handout.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2016-12-17   21:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: GrandIsland (#38)

and they can't violate local ordnances..

Local ordinances do not override the first amendment.

That is probably why the mayor has called for the taking of private property to stop.

Why did they take the tents anyway. Just to harass those people and make their lives harder? The government uses video footage and photographs for evidence all the time. Seems to me that they could have just taken a pic for evidence of their pretend crime of living.

A K A Stone  posted on  2016-12-17   21:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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