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politics and politicians Title: Libertarians emerging as Trump resistance As some Never Trumpers go dark, libertarians have taken up the cause. There were the warnings against flag-burning, the threats of tariffs, and the intervention in Carrier manufacturing negotiations. And now, theres the possible appointment of ultra-hawkish John Bolton to a top role at the State Department. Donald Trumps transition is raising flag after red flag for libertarians, a Republican-leaning group that in turn has emerged as a vocal, frequent thorn in the side of the incoming administration even as some previous Never Trumpers have gone dark. And with Sen. Rand Pauls power to bog down Trumps nominees, the libertarian movement sees tangible opportunities to make its influence felt. Somebodys got to be out there reminding Republicans where we stand on all of these issues, said Brendan Steinhauser, a conservative operative based in Texas with deep ties to the liberty movement. He pointed to the tariff and Carrier issues in particular as Trump actions giving libertarians heartburn, even as he said activists were also ready to cheer on Trump when he made more conservative calls and Cabinet nominations, and there have been several. Yes, our president of our party, our country may have some ideas that are very different, he said. Its incumbent on us to remind him, our party, our country, what good, pro-liberty policies are. Thats a very practical thing. Its happening right now. Some of the loudest and potentially most consequential libertarian dissent has come in response to Trumps flirtation with Bolton for a plum job at the State Department, possibly as the No. 2 to ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson, whom Trump named as his secretary of state pick on Tuesday. Bolton, the conservative former United Nations ambassador who strongly supported the Iraq War, has particularly stoked the ire of Paul in the Senate. I am a no on John Bolton for ANY position in the State [Department] and will work to defeat his nomination to any post,the Kentucky Republican tweeted on Sunday. Paul sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and has the power to stop the committee from recommending Bolton, if Democrats unanimously join in to block him. Other prominent libertarian outlets, including leaders with Young Americans for Liberty, have been quick to back him up. In a recent interview, Paul who endorsed Trump during the campaign as he dealt with his own reelection told POLITICO that he remains supportive of Trump and his campaign promises, and he has gone out of his way to praise other nominations. But he argued that nominating Bolton for a top slot at State would contradict a number of positions Trump took as a candidate, including opposition to the Iraq War, something Trump initially supported but made a point during the race to paint as a bad idea. Bolton who himself is a longtime critic of Pauls more hands-off approach to foreign policy has also called for bombing Iran and has since been unapologetic about his support for the war in Iraq. Thats been a key sticking point with Paul. My efforts to insert myself into the public debate are not to oppose Donald Trump, theyre to support what Donald Trump said in the campaign, Paul said, speaking at a time when Bolton was under more serious consideration to lead the State Department (though Paul has reiterated his opposition to Bolton in any role since then). Regime change made us less safe, and the Iraq War allowed for chaos.
I agree on those things Trump said. I would just hate for, at the very beginning, that those things he professed on the campaign trail to be diminished or besmirched by having someone in charge of the State Department who doesnt agree with Donald Trump. A Bolton representative had no comment. Trumps consideration of Bolton is just one alarming sign for libertarian leaders who werent the face of the Never Trump movement during the campaign, but who have since emerged as among the rights most willing figures to draw contrasts with Trump. The liberty movement, a sprawling network of groups and public figures whose priorities range from auditing the Federal Reserve to returning to the gold standard to reducing military intervention abroad, was never fully united behind the Never Trump movement. Those who were opposed to Trump during the campaign were often overshadowed by more prominent dissenters, like Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush. But since the campaign, its the voices aligned with the liberty movement that are often among the loudest ones pushing back on various Trump proposals, especially as other more establishment Republicans have made efforts to give the incoming administration breathing room. Certainly, there are other conservatives who have long been wary of Trump and continue to express misgivings, and several Republican senators have outlined major concerns about Tillerson and are bracing for a potential fight, including Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who also has already moved on immigration-related legislation designed to stymie potential hard-line deportation moves from a Trump administration. But so far it is only Paul who has gone so far as to threaten to attempt to block a possible nominee from his own partys president. In the House, perhaps the most pointed Republican Trump critic also comes from the liberty wing of the party. Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) has said he is deeply concerned about Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), Trumps choice for attorney general. He jabbed back at Trump after the president-elected tweeted that anyone who burns the flag should face consequences (No president is allowed to burn the First Amendment, Amash retorted on Twitter). And he swiped at Trumps 35 percent tariff proposal on goods from companies that move overseas: Maybe the slogan should be #MakeAmericaVenezuela. The priorities are diverse in the often-contrarian liberty movement, and there has been diversity, too, in their criticism, ranging from the sense that the Wall Street establishment has been overly empowered by a number of Trumps personnel selections who have deep ties to Goldman Sachs, to fears for civil liberties protections. Many libertarians were also plenty critical of George W. Bush, some activists note, so its not a big leap for them to express concerns about another Republican president. Asked about the onetime Republican Trump critics who are now holding their tongues Romney, for example, had been under consideration to serve in Trumps Cabinet, and Carly Fiorina, who clashed with Trump during the campaign, met with him Monday one plugged-in libertarian activist replied, The type of Republicans who always get behind their party are doing it again, even if it makes them more uncomfortable than if Jeb or Marco were elected. Basically, people are trying to operate the same way, the source continued. Whether Trump upends that model remains to be seen.
People right now are trying to be as normal as possible and hoping they can still get their agenda through, but for libertarian Republicans, criticizing the president-elect is par for the course. And, several libertarian leaders noted, theres been much for libertarians to cheer about as well, from high hopes for scaled-back regulations, to strong selections, in their view, for appointments to lead departments like the Environmental Protection Agency and Health and Human Services. People have some concerns, but for the most part I think are pretty positive with the big-picture outlook, with regard to lower taxes, less regulation, said Brian Darling, a former top Senate aide to Paul. So I think youll see the liberty movement, moving forward, being critical at times, but being very supportive on big issues like repealing Obamacare, regulation reform, tax reform. The Trump transition didnt respond to a request for comment. Still, some libertarians see it as their responsibility to serve as a check on the president-elect. Theres a tendency, especially in the honeymoon period, that people can be unwilling to criticize a president-elect, said Norm Singleton, a longtime aide to former Rep. Ron Paul, who now runs Campaign for Liberty. The liberty movement, though, because it tends not to view politics through a partisan lens as much as other establishment parts of the center-right coalition, theyre more willing to not view it as, Well, we cant be as critical of Donald Trump as we were of Barack Obama because hes our [partys] president. Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top Page Up Full Thread Page Down Bottom/Latest
#1. To: Gatlin (#0)
I love watching the little drug addict loving anarchist, stomp their feet and cry. We've seen enough of that SELF IMPORTANT LIBTARDED ATTITUDE, on this site. TRUMP is your next president. I hope you filthy bastards that hate him, hate him as much as I hated that asshole O'bunghole I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
What is with this emerging crap, Deckard
.you libertarian assholes have been always been anti-Trump.
...which is on the side of China!
If Americans Stop Criticizing Our Government, Well Stop Being American To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Teddy Roosevelt You Trump cultists need to read this and learn something. This TR quote applies to you:
These Canary pinheads have stood with Obama against We The People for 8 years. Whatever the atrocity, the gov is right, and the serf deserved to be killed, tazed, beaten, convicted whether guilty or innocent, because.... respect muh authority! Hero
LOL
How tangible can it be? Their candidate barely wiggled the needle.
That's because 6% of our populace are kooks... and they all happen to be liberaltarians and LF posters. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Yep. After 8 years of not criticizing Obama for fear of being called racist, we're now free to criticize Trump. So let's get started -- we've got a lot of catching up to do!
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