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Title: This animated map shows how radically a high-speed train system would improve travel in the US
Source: YouTube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJEQjabJjI
Published: Aug 14, 2016
Author: Business Insider
Post Date: 2016-12-16 11:28:49 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 11510
Comments: 35

The US's railroad network is made up of around 140,000 miles of track, but many of our trains are slow and outdated. Over the last couple of decades, countries like China, Japan, the UK, and France have made large investments in high-speed rail, and some groups in the US are urging that we do the same.

Here's what a high-speed rail network could look like in the US.

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#3. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

So, 17,000 miles of 220 mph tracks. The one thing your video didn't show was the cost of this boondoggle. From another article:

"The environmental analysis report for the California high-speed rail projects costs of $33 billion for 400 miles."

So we're looking at around $1.5 trillion for 17,000 m miles. With cost overruns, it'll be more like $3.0 trillion.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-16   13:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

So we're looking at around $1.5 trillion for 17,000 mil miles miles. With cost overruns, it'll be more like $3.0 trillion.

And yearly direct high speed rail track operations and maintenance costs of at least $200,000 per route mile. Plus 10% O&M overhead. Plus 10% of O&M for contingency spending.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-16   13:32:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Roscoe (#4)

"And yearly direct high speed rail track operations and maintenance costs of at least $200,000 per route mile. Plus 10% O&M overhead. Plus 10% of O&M for contingency spending."

Plus the cost of the trains themselves.

And using Amtrak as a guide, 40% of the ticket price will be subsidized by the federal government.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-16   13:46:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#5)

I love AMTRAK. It's often cheaper and quicker than bus travel and VASTLY more comfortable. However, without enormous government subsidies, there is no way it would survive.

I'll just have to leave it to the taxpayer to decide.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-12-16   14:11:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

I miss Trailways.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-16   14:17:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Roscoe (#7)

I remember riding buses, and the prime seating was in the back. As a child I couldn't understand why negroes rebelled at sitting in the back.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-12-17   12:13:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: jeremiad (#19)

I remember riding buses, and the prime seating was in the back.

That's exactly what I remember.

On the school bus the second best seat was the back seat. The best one the seat over the wheel which was about the third seat from the back. It offered a convenient foot rest.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-12-17   12:26:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: no gnu taxes, jeremiad (#21)

I have read (and who knows what the truth is) that Rosa Parks wasn't actually refusing to sit in the back of the bus. She was upset when the driver forced to give up her seat in the section to a white passenger when there was no more room left in the front.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-17   12:32:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Roscoe (#23)

I do know that Rosa Parks was a political operative who had planned this protest. It wasn't a spur of the moment thing, it was planned and publicized then used to effect change. She just happened to be the person chosen, she was no hero she was in no foreseeable danger.

jeremiad  posted on  2016-12-18   18:37:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#34. To: jeremiad (#33)

I do know that Rosa Parks was a political operative who had planned this protest.

And the idiot racists gave her cause.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-18 19:32:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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