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Title: This animated map shows how radically a high-speed train system would improve travel in the US
Source: YouTube
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyJEQjabJjI
Published: Aug 14, 2016
Author: Business Insider
Post Date: 2016-12-16 11:28:49 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 10400
Comments: 35

The US's railroad network is made up of around 140,000 miles of track, but many of our trains are slow and outdated. Over the last couple of decades, countries like China, Japan, the UK, and France have made large investments in high-speed rail, and some groups in the US are urging that we do the same.

Here's what a high-speed rail network could look like in the US.

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#3. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

So, 17,000 miles of 220 mph tracks. The one thing your video didn't show was the cost of this boondoggle. From another article:

"The environmental analysis report for the California high-speed rail projects costs of $33 billion for 400 miles."

So we're looking at around $1.5 trillion for 17,000 m miles. With cost overruns, it'll be more like $3.0 trillion.

misterwhite  posted on  2016-12-16   13:18:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#3)

So we're looking at around $1.5 trillion for 17,000 mil miles miles. With cost overruns, it'll be more like $3.0 trillion.

And yearly direct high speed rail track operations and maintenance costs of at least $200,000 per route mile. Plus 10% O&M overhead. Plus 10% of O&M for contingency spending.

Roscoe  posted on  2016-12-16   13:32:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Roscoe (#4)

"And yearly direct high speed rail track operations and maintenance costs of at least $200,000 per route mile. Plus 10% O&M overhead. Plus 10% of O&M for contingency spending."

Plus the cost of the trains themselves.

And using Amtrak as a guide, 40% of the ticket price will be subsidized by the federal government.

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#6. To: misterwhite (#5)

I love AMTRAK. It's often cheaper and quicker than bus travel and VASTLY more comfortable. However, without enormous government subsidies, there is no way it would survive.

I'll just have to leave it to the taxpayer to decide.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2016-12-16   14:11:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: no gnu taxes (#6)

I miss Trailways.

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#20. To: Roscoe (#7)

I remember 4 years ago, I left a terminal in Orlando for a couple of minutes. They thought I might have attempted to purchase alcohol. They wanted to search my my baggage. I let them, but also told them this was the last time I would use their service.

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#22. To: no gnu taxes (#20)

There's an idea. Sell drinks to the bus passengers, like on airplanes.

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